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Man, TD... is that crack Peter King is selling that good?

Could JAX really take Gilmore ahead of Blackmon and Floyd? And Kirkpatrick? That would be

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Hey, I gotta hope for things like this to happen.

Starting Friday, I get to look forward to another 3 win season. Might as well dream big now



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why does Miami trade with us for Tannehill? if we aren't taking Tanny, then who are they afraid is going to take him before their pick?


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I say we end up trading with Miami back to #8.

Then after the first 7 picks are - Luck, RGIII, Kalil, Tannehill, Caliborne, Cox, Gilmore

We still land Blackmon at #8, and we pick up Miami's 2nd round pick.

So we go ...

8. Justin Blackmon
22. Johnathan Martin
37. Brandon Weeden
42. Janoris Jenkins


I would probably get sick if we went that route. That's two character concern players and one of the most overrated QB prospects in history.


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one of the most overrated QB prospects in history




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one of the most overrated QB prospects in history.




I didn't say anything about drafting RGIII



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I predict a team will trade up to 3 and take Richardson.
The Browns although enticed by a package exceeding last years from Atlanta stay pat and select Blackmon who is rated either 3A or 3B on their board.

The first four picks will be.
4)Blackmon
22)Martin
37)Weeden
55)Mike Adams OT (Trade 67 and 100 to Falcons)

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"Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough. I believe we are going to be better than that. We're going to be a lot better than that." - Mike Holmgren (3/15/12)
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48 hours out, my final top 3 for us.

Richardson
Hill
Massie

Id live OK sith that.

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I predict a team will trade up to 3 and take Richardson.
The Browns although enticed by a package exceeding last years from Atlanta stay pat and select Blackmon who is rated either 3A or 3B on their board.

The first four picks will be.
4)Blackmon
22)Martin
37)Weeden
55)Mike Adams OT (Trade 67 and 100 to Falcons)




If we pass on a package larger than what Atlanta gave us last year so we can stay pat and take Blackmon, I'll be pissed. Almost as pissed as I would be if we traded up for Adams. I'm a Buckeye through and through, and I want nothing to do with him.


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From Heckert's Press Conference he stated that Blackmon is a top 5 Receiver. Heckert was asked if Richardson impacted the game more than Blackmon, because RBs touch the ball 20-25 times per game and WR not as much?

He acknowledged the fact and idea that RB touches the ball that much but he responds with--they both score a lot of TDs which is what you want most from skill guys but he then says (basically) that any old RB can score TDs but WR are not as interchangeable. He already said that he want's a guy that can score TD's. From this and the known interest that they have in Doug Martin, I believe that Blackmon will be the pick. If getting Adams at 55 in the 3rd round upsets you I believe you would be in a large minority including any GM looking for a Tackle. If you listen to Heckert, they would like to stay at 4 and not trade down again. He said they needed to last year but not so much this year. At some point you have to take a guy that has an opportunity to change the identity of your team and give the offense a boost. There are 2 legit day 1 #1 Receivers in this draft. Hill projects to a #1 based on measurables and upside but is a project. Everyone else is a complimentary or #2. We need a guy like Blackmon to open up the offense for everyone else including Little and whoever is running the ball. If you can't pass the ball in a WCO, you are doomed. That is your bread and butter and if teams can play your receivers straight up with no help and they stuff the box and get pressure on you..they have you by the testes.


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Loyal, wasn't knocking you, your opinions or your predictions, they are as plausible as any. Just tossing out my thoughts.

While Blackmon may the top rated WR in this class, I take that as he is the top rated WR in this class, but not necessarily elite. I do consider Richardson elite, as well as Claiborne. I will not be shocked at Blackmon, just disappointed. I am not wishing for a trade down, but if it is a heck of an offer ....

As to Adams ... I just smell a bust. He didn't live up to his potential in college, he shows up to the combine unable to put up even an average number of reps on the bench as well as the traces of grass ... I don't touch him.


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Loyal, wasn't knocking you, your opinions or your predictions, they are as plausible as any. Just tossing out my thoughts.

While Blackmon may the top rated WR in this class, I take that as he is the top rated WR in this class, but not necessarily elite. I do consider Richardson elite, as well as Claiborne. I will not be shocked at Blackmon, just disappointed. I am not wishing for a trade down, but if it is a heck of an offer ....

As to Adams ... I just smell a bust. He didn't live up to his potential in college, he shows up to the combine unable to put up even an average number of reps on the bench as well as the traces of grass ... I don't touch him.


That's cool. I am not a big Adams fan but he is a 2nd round Tackle. He held his own against some good players but that should say that his potential is untapped fully. I don't think he will bust and don't think he will be elite but I think he will be a fine player for a long time..that is why I think if he is sitting at 55 you grab him before Detroit does and would be good value.


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You know.. listening to Heckert's conference from last week. A couple things struck me.

One.. He laughed and said he LIKED some of the rumors about what the Browns were going to do , and he wasn't about to dispell them now. ( I think this is in reference to all the QB taking talk)

Two: He REALLY believes in BPA and yes , he would prefer it be for a need but isn't going to pass up 5 higher rated players to get a position of need. Been there done that and said it was always a mistake.


Do any of you REALLY think Tannehill is rated 4th best talent in this draft ? 22nd ? How bout the 37th best player overall ?

And how about Weeden ?

I think the guys wanting one of these QB's are going to be disappointed unless they really drop to one of our later picks.


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You know.. listening to Heckert's conference from last week. A couple things struck me.

One.. He laughed and said he LIKED some of the rumors about what the Browns were going to do , and he wasn't about to dispell them now. ( I think this is in reference to all the QB taking talk)

Two: He REALLY believes in BPA and yes , he would prefer it be for a need but isn't going to pass up 5 higher rated players to get a position of need. Been there done that and said it was always a mistake.


Do any of you REALLY think Tannehill is rated 4th best talent in this draft ? 22nd ? How bout the 37th best player overall ?

And how about Weeden ?

I think the guys wanting one of these QB's are going to be disappointed unless they really drop to one of our later picks.






I'd be absolutely SHOCKED if anyone honestly believed that either of those QB's was even a Top 50 talent.
There isn't a chance in hell that either should be having their names tossed around in the Top 5.


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You know.. listening to Heckert's conference from last week. A couple things struck me.

One.. He laughed and said he LIKED some of the rumors about what the Browns were going to do , and he wasn't about to dispell them now. ( I think this is in reference to all the QB taking talk)

Two: He REALLY believes in BPA and yes , he would prefer it be for a need but isn't going to pass up 5 higher rated players to get a position of need. Been there done that and said it was always a mistake.


Do any of you REALLY think Tannehill is rated 4th best talent in this draft ? 22nd ? How bout the 37th best player overall ?

And how about Weeden ?

I think the guys wanting one of these QB's are going to be disappointed unless they really drop to one of our later picks.






I'd be absolutely SHOCKED if anyone honestly believed that either of those QB's was even a Top 50 talent.
There isn't a chance in hell that either should be having their names tossed around in the Top 5.




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Here it is..I have been saying this for some time now but am etching it in stone. I am not sure of the slotting but think we might have to trade up for Weeden. Could potentially be 3 first round picks.

1.)Blackmon
2.)Martin
3.)Weeden


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Doug or Jon?


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Dougie!


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thanks. i actually initially assumed you meant Jonathan, so I'm glad I asked.


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