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Kellen Winslow says he’s done in Tampa, Bucs trying to trade him

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 21, 2012, 10:05 AM EDT

Kellen Winslow is on the way out in Tampa Bay.

Winslow, who has played tight end for the Buccaneers for the last three seasons, said today on Sirius XM NFL Radio that the Bucs have told him they don’t want him and will help him find the right team to trade him to.

If the Bucs can’t find a trading partner, they’ll likely release him.

Winslow has been a solid player for his three seasons in Tampa Bay, never missing a game and having more than 700 receiving yards all three years. But it wouldn’t be surprising if new coach Greg Schiano didn’t see eye to eye with Winslow on a number of things, including the fact that Winslow prefers to sit out practices to rest his bad knee.

Although Winslow said the Bears were engaged in trade talks about him before the draft, nothing materialized there. Despite Winslow’s enormous athletic talent, those knee issues may make it tough for any team to clear him to play. At age 28, Winslow doesn’t have a lot left.

Do not even want to entertain the thought of him returning.

he's one of the highest paid TEs in the NFL, has knee issues and those cause him to struggle to block. they are going to have to release him.

I wonder if TB fans are saying it's because Schiano (Rutgers) just hates him because Winslow played for UM

Pass

I was thinking he was at least 30 years old by now. It's a shame. He had a lot of potential. The guy had a lot of passion, too bad he's 70 yrs old in dog years in terms of his knee.

I was done with K2 after the whole staph infection vs. bull clap fiasco.

Between Moore, Watson, Cameron, and Smith I think we can make it through this year, although I would love to see the position set with a stud guy over the next year or two whether that be one of these guys developing into one, or finding one through the draft or FA.

I like K2, and I think he could help us, but I don't think it's really worth it. I'd rather keep Smith and Cameron on the roster as well as those guys are young and still have a ceiling.

That kid would be a stud if he hadn't messed up on the motorbike... The injury on the field I can't fault him for.. those things happen. And I think he could have come back from that. But the whole bike thing... geesh..

Someone will get a few more years out of him and I do wish him well.. but I think we need to pass.

I just don't see him as anything but an average TE at this point. Watson is every bit as good as Winslow right now, and is probably superior as far as blocking goes.

Winslow could have been one of the all time greats if he hadn't messed himself up so badly. It really is a shame that he was never able to bring his talent to the NFL intact.

Marshall, Winslow, and Jeffrey on the Bears would be pretty sick. Bad day to be a DB, and quite a change from fearing Devin Hester and Johnny Knox.

Yeah, man... but Auntie Unclenuts. That's who he is... he's fast and quick and... pretty much bad at everything else, right? That's just who the player is. Kind of like saying "If Brian Robiskie could get consistent separation in his routes he'd be really good."

We called the Bucs idiots for giving him that contract then, and the Bucs have confirmed they were idiots by their actions.

I would be very surprised if anyone took him with that contract...

Didn't want Winslow the first time around and funny thing is I am a Hurricanes fan. I told people that he was a headcase and an off the field incident away from hurting the team that drafted him even before the, "I am a soldier" comment. Had friends that knew him at school and they said he was a headcase in life. He is another one we had to listen to daddy crap kind of player so NO NO NO NO to him coming back to Cleveland.

Kellon Winslow Jr, coming back to Cleveland? If they can get him out of a high paid contract and into a low paid contract.

We Gotta Get This Guy! Again.

Please, no. Over-priced, bummer knees, age, and pretty much struggling to stay pretty much average. Also, not worth the price on contract OR in a lockerroom. I see him released. No thank you a bunch of lots.

Struggling to stay average? Seems to me that over the past three years he's been as consistent nr more consistent than anyone not named Witten from the TE position. On par with the likes of Gates, Vernon Davis, Tony Gonzales, and Brandon Pettigrew. More consistently productive than Jermichael Finley and Marcedes Lewis. This on a run-first team, unlike DAL, SD, DET, GB... and with much shakier QB play.

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2011
RK	PLAYER			TEAM	REC	TAR	YDS	AVG	TD
6	Rob Gronkowski, TE	NE	90	124	1,327	14.7	17
7	Jimmy Graham, TE	NO	99	149	1,310	13.2	11
29	Jason Witten, TE	DAL	79	117	942	11.9	5
31	Aaron Hernandez, TE	NE	79	113	910	11.5	7
33	Tony Gonzalez, TE	ATL	80	116	875	10.9	7
39	Dustin Keller, TE	NYJ	65	116	815	12.5	5
40	Brent Celek, TE		PHI	62	96	811	13.1	5
41	Fred Davis, TE		WSH	59	88	796	13.5	3
42	Vernon Davis, TE	SF	67	95	792	11.8	6
45	Antonio Gates, TE	SD	64	90	778	12.2	7
46	Brandon Pettigrew, TE	DET	83	126	777	9.4	5
48	Jermichael Finley, TE	GB	55	93	767	13.9	8
49	Kellen Winslow, TE	TB	75	121	763	10.2	2
							
2010							
RK	PLAYER			TEAM	REC	TAR	YDS	AVG	TD
17	Jason Witten, TE	DAL	94	128	1,002	10.7	9
23	Vernon Davis, TE	SF	56	93	914	16.3	7
28	Chris Cooley, TE	WSH	77	127	849	11	3
37	Antonio Gates, TE	SD	50	66	782	15.6	10
39	Benjamin Watson, TE	CLE	68	102	763	11.2	3
45	Kellen Winslow, TE	TB	66	98	730	11.1	5
46	Brandon Pettigrew, TE	DET	71	111	722	10.2	4
49	Marcedes Lewis, TE	JAC	58	88	700	12.1	10
							
2009							
RK	PLAYER			TEAM	REC	TAR	YDS	AVG	TD
11	Antonio Gates, TE	SD	79	114	1,157	14.6	8
16	Dallas Clark, TE	IND	100	132	1,106	11.1	10
21	Jason Witten, TE	DAL	94	125	1,030	11	2
26	Brent Celek, TE	PHI	76	112	971	12.8	8
27	Vernon Davis, TE	SF	78	129	965	12.4	13
30	Kellen Winslow, TE	TB	77	127	884	11.5	5
32	Tony Gonzalez, TE	ATL	83	135	867	10.4	6
37	Zach Miller, TE		OAK	66	100	805	12.2	3

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FYI, Kellen Winslow has played in 48 regular season games the past 3 years. Over the past 6 years, he has missed a total of 6 games, all in 2008.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/5531/kellen-winslow

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SEASON	TEAM	GP	REC	YDS	AVG	LNG	TD	FD
2006	CLE	16	89	875	9.8	40	3	42
2007	CLE	16	82	1,106	13.5	49	5	56
2008	CLE	10	43	428	10	30	3	25
2009	TB	16	77	884	11.5	42	5	47
2010	TB	16	66	730	11.1	41	5	36
2011	TB	16	75	763	10.2	37	2	40
Career		92	437	4,836	11.1	49	23	249

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*edit BTW, I'm not advocating that we try to get him back... I think we have two similar styled players who will already be on the roster in Moore and Cameron, but if you add the heart those two guys play with it doesn't add up to the way KWII plays. I think some of the made up or incorrect reasons that we shouldn't get him should be answered, though.

I bet he goes to the donks

We already have too many tight ends....and, besides, we already have our one token guy who plays like he is a wide-receiver split-out/has-great-hands/but-doesn't-want-to-block who we still call a tight end: Evan Moore.

That's enough.....we have Evan Moore so we won't need K2.....Let the Jets sign him up.

Seahawks

Browns have Ben Watson, and 2nd Evan Moore at tight end. If KW2 were back on the roster he'd be somewhere between just behind or just ahead of Evan Moore on the depth chart, (my guess) ... ahead of Alex Mack who is #1 on blocking assignments and in front of everyone else. Smelley, Gronkowski and Cameron.

My only question is, Is he better than Jordan Cameron?
and the answer is yes, Yes he is, he really is.

So if the option were presented, then yes, they gotta get this guy, ... again.
for the right price!

Buccaneers trade TE Kellen Winslow to Seahawks - NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82...aneers-in-trade

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers traded veteran tight end Kellen Winslow to the Seattle Seahawks in exchange for a conditional pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, the Buccaneers and Seahawks announced via news releases on Monday.

The move was not quite a surprise. During an interview with Ross Tucker of NFL SiriusXM radio on Monday, Winslow said Buccaneers coach Greg Schiano had told him he would not be back with the team and that the club was actively trying to trade him.

Schiano had expressed disappointment that Winslow was not participating in the team's offseason workout program, opting instead to work out on his own near his home in San Diego, Winslow said during the interview. Winslow returned to Tampa over the weekend, which is when he was informed that he was no longer in the team's plans.

Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk reports that the Seahawks did not renegotiate Winslow's contract in order to facilitate the trade. This does not mean that it won't be revisited down the road, but for now, the Seahawks will inherit the three years and $15.95 million remaining on Winslow's current contract. That includes a $3.3 million in base salary, $550,000 in per-game roster bonuses ($34,375 per game active), a $500,000 workout bonus and $1 million in incentives. Winslow will count for $4.8 million against the salary cap in 2012.

Winslow joins a tight end group that headlined by Zach Miller, who signed a five-year, $34 million contract in 2011 that included $17 million in guaranteed money. The Seahawks had offensive line issues, and Miller had to block more than had orginally been planned, leaving him to catch just 25 passes for 233 yards a year after making the Pro Bowl. Former starter John Carlson missed the season with a torn labrum, forcing the team to rely on young tight ends Cameron Morrah and Anthony McCoy, who combined for just 19 receptions for 220 yards.

Winslow, 28, has spent the last three seasons with the Buccaneers, catching 218 passes for 2,377 yards and 12 touchdowns in 48 games. The Bucs had acquired Winslow in 2009, sending a pair of draft picks to the Cleveland Browns in exchange for the former first-round draft pick. Winslow has 437 career receptions for 4,836 yards and 23 touchdowns in 92 games. He missed most of his first two seasons in the league with knee injuries.

The Buccaneers also officially announced the signing of former Indianapolis Colts tight end Dallas Clark to a one-year deal. Clark has struggled with injuries the last two seasons, catching just 71 passes for 699 yards and five touchdowns after establishing career-highs with 100 receptions for 1,106 yards with 10 touchdowns in 2009, the lone Pro Bowl season of his nine-year career.

The Colts released Clark as part of a large roster purge on March 9.

Way to go Buc's. They acquired Clark and a conditional draft pick, probably for less money then they were going to pay Winslow.
Not bad.

I would of loved to have him back here, but would of used him as a WR. Guy has hands of glue, and is a gamer.

No, his KNEES are held together with glue. Big difference...

And his "glue knees" were self inflicted wounds.

Sits out practices,really?
His teammates could care less if practices,or stands around in ladies undergarments.As long as he helps them win on Sunday,and by extension make more money,it's all good.
The guy had fire and was motivated to win,unfortunately he lacked the maturity to handle it.

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Sits out practices,really?

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We talkin' bout practice?