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Is tied for 2nd in the NFL with 8 sacks.
This is without massive production from Jabaal Sheard while getting sacks from guys like DQ, Parker and Hughes.
Very impressive so far. I wish I could find a stat for QB hits, but unfortunately I cannot find anything.
Another encouraging sign from the defense.
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Yeah, Sheard has been quiet so far. Not sure if it's because the OL is focusing on him or what, but I do expect good things out of him this year.
We had 6 sacks on Dalton. I thought we had more than 2 on Vick....
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My fear is defenders are dropping like flies ... Winn, Parker, Brown ... and we aren't going to be able to keep it up, but I'm loving it so far.
I often don't like it when we as a fanbase complains about injuries because believe it or not, all teams have them ... man, look at the Redskins right now on D ... but I really feel like we are being decimated on the D side of the ball more than usual. Haden's suspension doesn't help at all.
I think the additions of Rucker and Parker were pretty underrated by Heckert. I've been most impressed with Rucker so far. Guy brings some energy to the field. I'm liking it.
I hope we can sustain this.
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Vick got rid of the ball quickly in lieu of taking a sack, which resulted in INTs.
I wish I could find QB hits. We'd almost certainly be #1. We lived in the backfield against the Eagles and beat up Dalton as well.
you had a good run Hank.
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In 2 games, the Eagles have allowed 4 sacks and 14 QB hits, and the Bengals have allowed 10 sacks and 11 QB hits ... but I can't find a breakdown on defense.
The Browns have allowed 4 sacks and 10 hits on Weeden.
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I think the additions of Rucker and Parker were pretty underrated by Heckert. I've been most impressed with Rucker so far. Guy brings some energy to the field. I'm liking it.
Nooooo way, they are washed up 
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Is tied for 2nd in the NFL with 8 sacks.
This is without massive production from Jabaal Sheard while getting sacks from guys like DQ, Parker and Hughes.
Very impressive so far. I wish I could find a stat for QB hits, but unfortunately I cannot find anything.
Another encouraging sign from the defense.
And we're doing it without Phil Taylor.
As long as the injuries with Winn, Parker, & Co. aren't too serious, we're going to have some serious fun in a few weeks.
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And, D'Qwell is tied for 2nd in the NFL with 3 sacks.... and on that list of top sack artists, he is not only one of only three players there with an INT, but he is the only one with more than one as he has TWO of them.
Oh, and he also has 5 PDef and a fumble recovery.
We're only two weeks in and he is already having a Pro Bowl kind of season.
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And, D'Qwell is tied for 2nd in the NFL with 3 sacks.... and on that list of top sack artists, he is not one of only three players there with an INT, but he is the only one with more than one as he has TWO of them.
Oh, and he also has 5 PDef and a fumble recovery.
We're only two weeks in and he is already having a Pro Bowl kind of season.
and you didn't mention that he also has a TD!
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And, D'Qwell is tied for 2nd in the NFL with 3 sacks.... and on that list of top sack artists, he is not one of only three players there with an INT, but he is the only one with more than one as he has TWO of them.
Oh, and he also has 5 PDef and a fumble recovery.
We're only two weeks in and he is already having a Pro Bowl kind of season.
and you didn't mention that he also has a TD!
I just hope we can get there in DQ's tenure.
He is not only a outstanding player, but he is also a great example of a team mate and I think that he has played a big role in bringing our young LBers around.
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DQ and Thomas.
It would be nice for them to be a part of some winning teams.
The fact that both reupped with Cleveland means they are willing to see it through. That means a lot to me as fan. Those two guys can start on almost any team and they know it.
Let's get this thing turned around starting this week. 1-2 after Buffalo. Then the world and the Ravens get introduced to TRich on Thursday. 2-2 baby.
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DQ and Thomas.
It would be nice for them to be a part of some winning teams.
The fact that both reupped with Cleveland means they are willing to see it through. That means a lot to me as fan. Those two guys can start on almost any team and they know it.
Let's get this thing turned around starting this week. 1-2 after Buffalo. Then the world and the Ravens get introduced to TRich on Thursday. 2-2 baby.
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And, D'Qwell is tied for 2nd in the NFL with 3 sacks.... and on that list of top sack artists, he is not one of only three players there with an INT, but he is the only one with more than one as he has TWO of them.
Oh, and he also has 5 PDef and a fumble recovery.
We're only two weeks in and he is already having a Pro Bowl kind of season.
and you didn't mention that he also has a TD!
Didn't want to seem like I was bragging on his behalf 
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DQ and Thomas.
It would be nice for them to be a part of some winning teams.
The fact that both reupped with Cleveland means they are willing to see it through. That means a lot to me as fan. Those two guys can start on almost any team and they know it.
Let's get this thing turned around starting this week. 1-2 after Buffalo. Then the world and the Ravens get introduced to TRich on Thursday. 2-2 baby.
Im riding that bandwagon for sure!
If you need 3 years to be a winner you got here 2 years to early. Get it done Browns.
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Yeah, Sheard has been quiet so far. Not sure if it's because the OL is focusing on him or what, but I do expect good things out of him this year.
I've never been a huge numbers guy, but from the games I've watched I've been very happy with Sheard. May be no sacks, but he brings the pressure and forces the QB to throw quick and he's gotten into the backfield to help break up running plays.
The defense as a whole has been pretty good. I'm a bit upset with the way Hagg played last week (although WTH, why is he on the outside covering a WR?), but otherwise I don't have much in the way of complaints. I'm mostly just frustrated that Joe Haden is out.
That and we'll need another CB next year, Buster Skrine is too little to cover WR's on the outside also
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And, D'Qwell is tied for 2nd in the NFL with 3 sacks.... and on that list of top sack artists, he is not only one of only three players there with an INT, but he is the only one with more than one as he has TWO of them.
Oh, and he also has 5 PDef and a fumble recovery.
We're only two weeks in and he is already having a Pro Bowl kind of season.
DQ is definatly on track for a Pro Bowl birth but its really early. I think as a leader of this defense, he will have the guys ready to help stop Spiller. A scat back like they went up against McCoy during Philly.
I would say that DQ is the team MVP so far.
In regards to people saying FAs dont want to come to Cleveland, its good that he went in house and got DQ to stay. The Brownies would be in real trouble if DQ left town, having a huge hole to fill.
The pass rush and getting turnovers has been a big plus. Hadans suspension is a huge negative. It shows how good he really is with the pass yardage Dalton had. The pass rush will be needed with Hadan out.
I think this defense hurried Vick 14-16 times.
Based on stats, the Browns should get a few wins this season if they keep it up. The offense wont be as bad as the Philly game the rest of the year and the young DBs are getting alot of experiance the shouldnt be getting.
With more experiance from the offense and when the defense get Hadan, Brown and Taylor back, they will be a team to not reckon with.
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DQ is definitely starting out with what could be a Pro Bowl season. Maybe even an All Pro season. The only thing that could hurt him is the "bend but don't break" philosophy, and the general youth of the defense around him.
He played at a Pro Bowl level last year though, and he's picking up this year not only where he left off, but he's picked his game up even more.
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Unfortunately playing for Cleveland has gotten him ignored a lot in the national media, which is a shame.
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Unfortunately playing for Cleveland has gotten him ignored a lot in the national media, which is a shame.
missing 2 full seasons didn't help his cause either. he did deserve the comeback player of the year award for what he did last year (not surprisingl{ it went to a QB - Stafford)
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Unfortunately playing for Cleveland has gotten him ignored a lot in the national media, which is a shame.
missing 2 full seasons didn't help his cause either. he did deserve the comeback player of the year award for what he did last year (not surprisingly it went to a QB - Stafford)
Not to mention his time in the 3-4...where he was not a good fit.
He's doing great so far this year tho. On passing downs he's in there with Robertson stationed in the middle (in a 4-2-5) and DQ is moving around and causing lots of problems.
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Just another thing I wanted to mention:
While they aren't pass rushing like crazy, Billy Winn and John Hughes are worth everything they were drafted at and more. Winn was playing like a man with his hair on fire through the first 2 games and John Hughes can stack and shed with the best of them.
With Rubin and Taylor in there, our DT's are going to be DAMN good for many years.
you had a good run Hank.
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While they aren't pass rushing like crazy, Billy Winn and John Hughes are worth everything they were drafted at and more. Winn was playing like a man with his hair on fire through the first 2 games and John Hughes can stack and shed with the best of them.
With Rubin and Taylor in there, our DT's are going to be DAMN good for many years.
And Hughes was drafted to plug the middle and improve the run defense. 
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Just adding my opinion on the "getting pressure" discussion...
The Browns have as it stands right now a total of 8 sacks, 14 QB hits, and 25 QB pressures.
From an edge rusher (DE) we have 14 Pressures, 4 Hits, and 2 sacks.
From the inside rush (DT) we have 8 Pressures, 5 Hits, and 1 Sack.
From the blitz (LB) we have 2 Pressures, 2 Hits, and 4 Sacks.
I think its safe to say the Browns are getting pressure with just the front four, and they are getting it enough.
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Odd how the LBs have a considerably higher Sack to Pressure ratio than the DL.
It is worth noting the secondary has a sack or two and I am sure some pressures.
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Just another thing I wanted to mention:
While they aren't pass rushing like crazy, Billy Winn and John Hughes are worth everything they were drafted at and more. Winn was playing like a man with his hair on fire through the first 2 games and John Hughes can stack and shed with the best of them.
With Rubin and Taylor in there, our DT's are going to be DAMN good for many years.
Yeah and then there is the question of what to do with Kitchen, (who has flashed) when Taylor gets back.
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Just another thing I wanted to mention:
While they aren't pass rushing like crazy, Billy Winn and John Hughes are worth everything they were drafted at and more. Winn was playing like a man with his hair on fire through the first 2 games and John Hughes can stack and shed with the best of them.
With Rubin and Taylor in there, our DT's are going to be DAMN good for many years.
Yeah and then there is the question of what to do with Kitchen, (who has flashed) when Taylor gets back.
Winn will move to DE...and be a beast.
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Just another thing I wanted to mention:
While they aren't pass rushing like crazy, Billy Winn and John Hughes are worth everything they were drafted at and more. Winn was playing like a man with his hair on fire through the first 2 games and John Hughes can stack and shed with the best of them.
With Rubin and Taylor in there, our DT's are going to be DAMN good for many years.
Yeah and then there is the question of what to do with Kitchen, (who has flashed) when Taylor gets back.
Winn will move to DE...and be a beast.
Like many who assumed Sheldon Brown would be moved to Safety ... I don't see it happening with Winn moving to DE.
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Like many who assumed Sheldon Brown would be moved to Safety ... I don't see it happening with Winn moving to DE.
Brown may be on the verge of moving to the bench tho. We could use a guy like him at S too. I dunno...if he doesn't move to S next year, I could see him moving to off the team.
When Taylor returns, we will have a very good 5 man rotation at DT. And Cameron on the PS.
I'd hate to lose any of those guys...Winn playing DE solves the excess at DT and the shortage at DE. Very well could be wishful thinking.
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I agree ... Sheldon Brown might have reached his self life at CB.
It's going to be hard to keep 5 DT's on our roster. The good news I guess would be that that bridge wont need to be crossed for some time and injuries although they might hurt us they could help us in keeping 5 DT's at least for the remainder of the season.
Actually I have been pleasantly surprised with our (4) DE's so far.
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I think we could be "set" at LB and DT for the mid-term...we need another young pass rushing DE to replace Parker after this season, so I expect either the 1st ot 3rd rounder to go this way
DT: Rubin, Taylor, Hughes, Winn, Kitchen....these guys are all signed through 2014 or 2015, so I don't expect any Top 4/5 round picks to go DT in the next draft
LB: Dqwell, Gocong, Robertson, Fort, JMJ, Acho....all 6 are signed for 2013 and most beyond that, Maiava and Fujita will be a FAs and probably gone...I expect maybe another mid/late rounder to battle/push the others
Our front 7 is pretty set, both starters and depth, for the mid term future imho..our "urgent" needs on D are down to DE and FS, with depth needed at CB and OLB
If you go over our Offense you'll see similar patterns...we're really getting there
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I think we could be "set" at LB and DT for the mid-term...we need another young pass rushing DE to replace Parker after this season, so I expect either the 1st ot 3rd rounder to go this way
I don't see that as urgent ... I think that Parker can play another two years, but I certainly would be open to it if we have the oppritunaty to upgrade that position.
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I totally agree here unless someone who is a can't miss falls in our laps.
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LB: Dqwell, Gocong, Robertson, Fort, JMJ, Acho....all 6 are signed for 2013 and most beyond that, Maiava and Fujita will be a FAs and probably gone...I expect maybe another mid/late rounder to battle/push the others
Once thought to be a big weakness on defense before this season I think looks bright for the future.
I agree that Fujita will probably not be back and Maiava hasn't really been productive in a starting role, so if he is brought back then it will be at a backup price.
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Our front 7 is pretty set, both starters and depth, for the mid term future imho..our "urgent" needs on D are down to DE and FS, with depth needed at CB and OLB
I don't think that the jury is set on Eric Hagg and Wade is still a player I'm hopeful will progress this season, though I think that he is a little overwhelmed inside and should possibly be used on the outside moving either Patterson or Skrine inside in sub packages.
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