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G'morning folks. I'm currently having a discussion with a young lady about some things and she pointed me to a website as her "proof". I'm trying to determine the sources of the information and I know some folks on here have shown that websites can lean one way or another by their sources of funding and such.
How does one find this other than doing a simple whois search. I check the about section and it doesn't reveal anything other than a simple BS statement. There has to be another source I'm not seeing.
Thanks.
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A lot of it is just knowing the names, affiliations, and history of the site and it's writers/contributors.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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Hmm....Ok. Well maybe someone here knows about this site and it's writer(s). http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=35144
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since CNN, FOX, MSNBC and other MSM sites no longer seem to care where the information comes from it makes things pretty difficult.
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Taking one look at that site, I'd feel comfortable saying it's not legit.
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Me too. It is a giant pile of conspiracy theory wrapped in a lot of crap. The fact that she can't see that is funny to me. But I'm enjoying the ability to torment her and watching her make a point that is laughable.
I've already won the arguments, now I'm working on showing her the invalidity of the sources she uses.
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I would agree that this site and it's tone looks a bit sketchy.
However, there are also some troubling items. The dash-cam video of an officer arresting a concealed-carry holder is particularly disturbing. I disagree with some of the editorial content, but this is an example of police conduct that should never be tolerated.
I realize that many people have never had any interactions with police along such lines. There is a question about much of the conduct about the individual being arrested. However, there is no direct evidence of any crime happening. The officer threatens the woman with physical violence. He makes threats to shoot the arrested individual. i speak from personal experience that this type of conduct from a police officer is not uncommon.
Whether or not the man was picking up a hooker, or looking for work, is open to question. An educated guess that someone might be a criminal is not sufficient reason to treat them like one. Threats of a beating, or a clear statement that the officer should have emptied a full clip into the man ( "ten shots and watch you drop") are not acceptable conduct. The cop is still on the payroll and may get his job back.
Watch that video and tell me you want this man carrying a gun and a badge.
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And , ABC /NBC/CBS ??
I think he was refering mainly to news sites. I know if I'm looking for news I don't goto www.abc.com, unless I'm wondering who's winning whatever dancing or sincing show they are known for.. 
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That cop recently got his job back ! Thank you police union for putting that armed psycho back on the street .
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And , ABC /NBC/CBS ??
"and other MSM" covers them, no?
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Does she have a boyfriend that is a French model she met online? 'Cause if they can't put it on the internet unless it's true! 
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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Hmm....Ok. Well maybe someone here knows about this site and it's writer(s).
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=35144
WHOIS info
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, LLC (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: INFORMATIONLIBERATION.COM
Created on: 08-Nov-04
Expires on: 08-Nov-14
Last Updated on: 18-Sep-12
Registrant:
Domains By Proxy, LLC
DomainsByProxy.com
14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration INFORMATIONLIBERATION.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains By Proxy, LLC
DomainsByProxy.com
14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598
Technical Contact:
Private, Registration INFORMATIONLIBERATION.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
Domains By Proxy, LLC
DomainsByProxy.com
14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.INFORMATIONLIBERATION.COM
NS2.INFORMATIONLIBERATION.COM
Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited
Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited
http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=informationliberation.com&prog_id=GoDaddy
It doesn't look like a whois of a legit site but some personal site. I don't think many legit orgs are going through GoDaddy.
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I wouldn't say that. Godaddy is a reliable domain name registrar/broker.
The site is using domains by proxy to conceal ownership. That sets off a red flag for me, because a legit organization would WANT it's contact info out their for donors and such.
Your feelings and opinions do not add up to facts.
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I wouldn't say that. Godaddy is a reliable domain name registrar/broker.
The site is using domains by proxy to conceal ownership. That sets off a red flag for me, because a legit organization would WANT it's contact info out their for donors and such.
But that's why they have a site. As far as the domain Proxy thing is, goDaddy's wording for the option is very confusing to someone who understands Domains, it could be complete jibberish to someone who doesn't.
The average person isn't doing a whois to find out about a site, that's mostly the spammers. I get about 2-3 phish emails a weeks telling me that our work site and my dawgtalkerpickems site are up for renewal, both are registered for several more years. It is interesting that it increases the during the month of it's renewal even though the year is many years out.
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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I was looking for some sunrise pics and went to a site called "ThecrackofDawn.com". Oopsie!
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
- John Muir
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Google the billing address:
14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
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14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309, Scottsdale, AZ, 85260
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seem to be many more as well, using the same address. kinda odd...
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Google the billing address:
14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309
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Xtreme Fatloss Diet Bonus
14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309, Scottsdale, AZ 85260 map
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Website Icon Design
14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309, Scottsdale, AZ, 85260
480-624-2599
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seem to be many more as well, using the same address. kinda odd...
Might be a "virtual office".
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I was looking for some sunrise pics and went to a site called "ThecrackofDawn.com". Oopsie!
At least you didn't stumble across "ThecrackofDon.com"
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Atleast Jfan didn't put up a pic of Dawn like Arps did in the God thread.
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What I usually do is Google search any of the authors they post. If you see a trend that will tell you quite a bit. It also helps to double check stories with news sites to see if they are true.
They have an author that they are using named Robert Higgs. His wikipedia page describes him as libertarian anarchist.
Another is Andy Worthington, an investigative journalist from Britain, writes for Alternet and HuffPo.
They are also using Ron Paul it seems.
That gives you the slant for sure to tell you where they come from.
For me, any legit site that I would refer to should have a Masthead. Just like a newspaper/magazine with a who's who. Who is in charge etc etch
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I was looking for some sunrise pics and went to a site called "ThecrackofDawn.com". Oopsie!
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