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And if by some unfortunate turn, 2 of the 3 LTs are still there, we lose trade leverage and have one less defender to choose from. Yikes!

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Negative, Negative, NEGATIVE ...


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Just remember the value chart is just a boundary of value so that teams would know over paying or under paying.

Usually the team who wants picks n don't like any players might under sell the value to get what they want. Usually the team who are targeting one specific player n don't value picks in Quantity as much as quality. Will over pay a bit. Us for KW2...Trent...heck always us...lol I laugh cause I don't cry...well Redskins for RG3.

49ers want a specific talent they are targeting I expect a little more than the Value Chart.

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Oh n usually a 2014 1st rounder is valued at 1000 points of course one can ASSume more or less value due to teams projections as noted not a rule just a rough guideline established by Jimmy Johnson


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And if by some unfortunate turn, 2 of the 3 LTs are still there, we lose trade leverage and have one less defender to choose from. Yikes!




This is very true. I am guessing that won't be the case...either by teams selecting staying put or others trading up before 6.


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And if by some unfortunate turn, 2 of the 3 LTs are still there, we lose trade leverage and have one less defender to choose from. Yikes!




Not much... SD and NO both need a LT, and I bet NO would give up a future 1st along with #15. AZ is taking the other one. If Miami doesn't complete this Albert trade, then they're another option, but I think they will trade.

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http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/9203650/2013-nfl-draft-dee-milliner-had-five-surgeries

One reason there has been so much debate about draft prospect Dee Milliner is that the former Alabama cornerback has undergone five surgeries, though some not as major as others, per league sources.

Milliner's surgeries include a right knee scope, sports hernia, right tibia stress fracture and both shoulders.

His most recent shoulder surgery, performed in March, will sideline him during the organized team activities of whichever team drafts him.

Milliner is not expected to be ready until training camp at the earliest.

"We haven't been able to do the rehab like I want to because I've been going to different teams," Milliner told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "But once the draft is over, I'll be able to start to rehab it and try to get back on track."

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49ers want a specific talent they are targeting I expect a little more than the Value Chart.






Really rare for a team to trade-up without a specific target. Its pretty much a given that you want a specific guy and that the trade won't happen unless he is on the board when the trade partner is on the clock. I'm thinking "the chart" has that built-in, and assumes the trade is initiated from the trade-up/targeting team especially if its a huge jump.

I agree with what you said about the team trying to trade-out. If you make it clear that you want no one and start begging for partners, you'll get poor value. Banner has talked with all NFL teams, so they've got the framework. Its up to him to use smoke-and-mirrors and hope that phone rings! I definitely don't see a "haul" like Heckert got us 2 years ago. Wish it was there, but I don't think anyone is being that aggressive this year.

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"We haven't been able to do the rehab like I want to because I've been going to different teams," Milliner told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "But once the draft is over, I'll be able to start to rehab it and try to get back on track."




Wow. Rehab isn't something you do on your own schedule. Exactly what did he have done? With most surgeries , rehab should start ASAP to prevent strictures, adhesions and scar tissue from forming and to regain full ROM.


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"We haven't been able to do the rehab like I want to because I've been going to different teams," Milliner told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "But once the draft is over, I'll be able to start to rehab it and try to get back on track."




Wow. Rehab isn't something you do on your own schedule. Exactly what did he have done? With most surgeries , rehab should start ASAP to prevent strictures, adhesions and scar tissue from forming and to regain full ROM.




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Watching Dee Millner on NFL AM and the only thing I keep thinking is I bet he knows everything about shrimp He sounds just like Bubba from Forest Gump seriously.

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Watching Dee Millner on NFL AM and the only thing I keep thinking is I bet he knows everything about shrimp He sounds just like Bubba from Forest Gump seriously.




That was the first thing I thought too... I can see him on his knees scubbing the floor with his toothbrush now....


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Forget Milliner, we are taking Geno Smith.

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"We haven't been able to do the rehab like I want to because I've been going to different teams," Milliner told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "But once the draft is over, I'll be able to start to rehab it and try to get back on track."




Wow. Rehab isn't something you do on your own schedule. Exactly what did he have done? With most surgeries , rehab should start ASAP to prevent strictures, adhesions and scar tissue from forming and to regain full ROM.




Hopefully, not hanging out with Quentin Groves....




Yeah, that would definently put him in the hole..


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Forget Milliner, we are taking Geno Smith.




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New regimes mean new QB's and I bet this regime wants to make a splash.

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If we take QB at #6, I would bet that it is EJ Manuel. Even if Smith is available.


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Seeing Geno and Manuel standing side by side, there is no way Mr. Height/Weight/Speed guy will take Geno.

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If Milliner is at #6 I want him

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If Milliner is at #6 I want him




The NFL.Com Mock Draft on NFL Network has Milliner dropping to the Jets at #13 (TB) they had us taking Dion Jordan @ #6 ...


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That makes sense. I would be fine with Jordan/Ansah/Jones/Mingo. All of them will make the secondary better because the QB will have less time to throw. If that is what happens tomorrow I would be ok with that.

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