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Hey guys. Have not posted on these boards in a while before the main website went down, so I'm not sure if everyone posts their own mock drafts or what. I wanted to post my dream mock draft and what I think could end up happening and get everyone's thoughts. If this post is in the wrong spot, please feel free to move it to the appropriate thread.
At this point, I would love to trade down maybe with the Rams or Vikings (who both have two first round picks) and pickup an extra 2nd and 4th round picks for our #6 spot...Here is my mock based off of a trade down.
1st Round - Jonathan Cooper OG/North Carolina -- OR -- Jarvis Jones OLB/Georgia. If we trade down, and Jarvis Jones for whatever reason drops to us at that spot, I think it's a no brainer to pull the trigger.
2nd Round - Matt Elam S/Florida -- OR -- Larry Warford OG/Kentucky. If we end up taking Jones or a pass rusher in the 1st round, we have to take a guard, but for the sake of realistic draft scenario lets just say we've addressed Safety and Guard.
3rd Round - John Simon OLB/Ohio State - Good defenses have good pass rushers, but quality depth makes a good defense great. I think Simon could make a fairly productive edge or stand up rusher, he is strong, athletic and has a motor that doesn't stop.
4th Round - William Gholston DE/Michigan State - Again, adding quality depth is always a must when switching defenses. Wynn, Hughes and Gholston as the three backup defensive lineman sounds awesome to me.
4th Round (From Trade) - Andre Ellington RB/Clemson -- OR -- Michael Ford RB/LSU. I think we need a speed/scat back somewhere in the draft, I know we just signed Obi but I still think adding one in the draft could be a possibility.
5th Round - Ace Sanders WR/South Carolina - Had a bad combine, his stock may have dropped but the guy is very quick and was South Carolina's most explosive player, and he put up good numbers with a very shakey Quarterback situation and did it against good competition.
6th Round - Tyrann Matheui (Spelling?) CB/LSU - Why not take the risk in the 6th round on a guy who might have huge potential? We'll see.
7th Round - Zack Boren FB/Ohio State - Not an Ohio State homer by any stretch of the imagination, but we need a hard nosed fullback on this team. I think Smelley could be it, but drafting a guy to push him isn't a bad idea especially in the 7th round.
Again if this needs moved, please move it. What does everyone think?
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If you trade the #6 to either the Rams, moreso the Vikings, it will cost them both 1st rounders, not a 2nd. This year perhaps may be different as there may be less interest after the first three or four slots...
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I think a trade down is absolutely possible and a name I'll throw out there that no one is really talking about relative to us and a trade down candidate is Tyler Eifert. Depending on where we trade down to and what we do in FA, he could be a possibility. TE is a need on this team and he would add another offensive weapon. Chud and Norv love their TEs.
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the obvious trade-down partner to me is with the Bills. Do they want Geno Smith? If they want a true shot at him and he's there when we are on the clock.. i'm sure the phone will ring inquiring about what it would take to jump the 7 spot (Cardinals), who are also in need of a QB.
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That's quite possible, Turk, but I believe the Bills are considering Nassib (Syracuse) in the 2nd round. I don't think we can get the Bills 2nd rounder to move up from #8 to our #6.
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Please don't be offended, but I absolutely would hate that draft.
If we draft a Guard in the 1st round with the playmakers available, then we deserve to continue to suck. How many high draft picks do we need on our OL?
Isn't Elam more of a SS type than a FS type? If we draft a S, I want a true, centerfielder type FS.
I love John Simon ...... except that I don't know where he plays in the NFL.
As far as the rest, I'm not that deep into things yet.
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I think a trade down is absolutely possible and a name I'll throw out there that no one is really talking about relative to us and a trade down candidate is Tyler Eifert.
I dont follow much college ball but Eifert really stood out in a couple games I saw him in. Although he didnt seem to do much in the bowl game.
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I think a trade down is absolutely possible and a name I'll throw out there that no one is really talking about relative to us and a trade down candidate is Tyler Eifert.
I dont follow much college ball but Eifert really stood out in a couple games I saw him in. Although he didnt seem to do much in the bowl game.
when covered almost exclusively by Milliner
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I think a trade down is absolutely possible and a name I'll throw out there that no one is really talking about relative to us and a trade down candidate is Tyler Eifert.
I dont follow much college ball but Eifert really stood out in a couple games I saw him in. Although he didnt seem to do much in the bowl game.
when covered almost exclusively by Milliner
OK Lets take Mlliner 
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I think a trade down is absolutely possible and a name I'll throw out there that no one is really talking about relative to us and a trade down candidate is Tyler Eifert.
I dont follow much college ball but Eifert really stood out in a couple games I saw him in. Although he didnt seem to do much in the bowl game.
when covered almost exclusively by Milliner
OK Lets take Mlliner
gladly would except that he'll be gone to JAX (or even Philly or Detroit if he lasts to them)
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I think a trade down is absolutely possible and a name I'll throw out there that no one is really talking about relative to us and a trade down candidate is Tyler Eifert.
I dont follow much college ball but Eifert really stood out in a couple games I saw him in. Although he didnt seem to do much in the bowl game.
when covered almost exclusively by Milliner
Ok, but we wouldn't be drafting Milliner to cover tight ends.
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What is it about the Browns pick at 6 that make all the trade down pimps think other teams will want to come up to that spot?
If you have a senario that makes this plausible I would like to hear it. Right now it sounds like SWAG.
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Joekel to the Chiefs
Fisher to the Lions
The difference between Lane Johnson and DJ Fluker is vast.
A team needing a LT could want to jump Arizona.
Miami being a logical team to do so.
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San Diego is another team biting on that.
Another scenario is Buffalo doesn't trade up higher and wants Smith. Cards cut Kolb and they pick after us. Could be an OT, but BUF might not want to risk it.
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As I said elsewhere I am not opposed to a trade down. But did want to know why others believed it to be plausible. So consider me offically on board given that the conditions necessary to create demand for the 6th pick present themselves.
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Also QB...Geno had a good showing if Eagles, Jags or Raiders don't take him...Buffalo n Zona might have a battle to move up n get him...of course they can trade w/Lions as just as well.
So for me there is only two reasons for a team to want to move up.
Left Tackle scenario...or Geno Smith scenario.
But you are right not much for teams to move up...I've heard a lot of teams saying Trade Down as a possiblity. Not a strong up front draft...best players outside of LTs or a DT are all RAW PLAYERS not usual for Top 5 or Top 10. Evidence of the weak up front class we got this year. JMHO
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I do think that we could see an opportunity to trade down a couple of spots is Smith and/or one of the LT are still on the board.
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This is my first time posting on this board. I have posted on the main website board occasionally.
I think the Browns should be able to trade down. The main possibilites being the Geno scenario and the LT scenario as you mention. That's 4 players as there are 3 top quality LTs. There is also the possibility Milliner will be available (and we should take him and not move down if he is available). But if we wanted to, there would be a market for Milliner. Milliner would be the only scenario where I would be opposed to a trade down. The worst case scenario is if all 3 LTs, Geno, and Milliner are gone when we pick. Even then, I'd imagine Dallas would want to trade up for Chance Warmack. So if we are smart we can come out ahead no matter what the scenario is.
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This is my first time posting on this board. I have posted on the main website board occasionally.
I think the Browns should be able to trade down. The main possibilites being the Geno scenario and the LT scenario as you mention. That's 4 players as there are 3 top quality LTs. There is also the possibility Milliner will be available (and we should take him and not move down if he is available). But if we wanted to, there would be a market for Milliner. Milliner would be the only scenario where I would be opposed to a trade down. The worst case scenario is if all 3 LTs, Geno, and Milliner are gone when we pick. Even then, I'd imagine Dallas would want to trade up for Chance Warmack. So if we are smart we can come out ahead no matter what the scenario is.
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San Diego is another team biting on that.
Another scenario is Buffalo doesn't trade up higher and wants Smith. Cards cut Kolb and they pick after us. Could be an OT, but BUF might not want to risk it.
I really, really wanted SD to trade their second-rounder for the Cleveland's sixth overall pick. That would have given them Fisher. Then Jeff Backus retired and suddenly the Lions are probably going to take Fisher. Ugh, I'm still so upset over this.
As for the Browns, not signing a CB in FA (which was a stupid move considering it's a buyer's CB market), is going to force them to draft Milliner. Non-high draft pick CBs almost always suck in their rookie year, and Milliner is the only high draft pick CB.
Now if Milliner is taken by the Lions (which I don't think will happen for aforementioned reasons), the Browns really need to trade down to get Cooper, Warmack, or Cordarrelle Patterson. Hopefully that trading partner is San Diego so we can draft Fisher!
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I think Fisher is gone by the 5th pick. If the Chargers want a LT, they have to be satisfied with Lane Johnson and may have to trade up to 6 to get him over the Cards. I see it playing out as follows: 1. Chiefs - Joekyl, 2. Jags - Jones, 3. Raiders - Floyd, 4. Eagles - Fisher, 5. Lions - Ansah, 6. Browns - Milliner or trade back.
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I think Fisher is gone by the 5th pick. If the Chargers want a LT, they have to be satisfied with Lane Johnson and may have to trade up to 6 to get him over the Cards. I see it playing out as follows: 1. Chiefs - Joekyl, 2. Jags - Jones, 3. Raiders - Floyd, 4. Eagles - Fisher, 5. Lions - Ansah, 6. Browns - Milliner or trade back.
There's a strong possibility that can happen. Although I can definitely see the Eagles taking Milliner too. That would force a trade-down for the Browns IMO, as I've already written about.
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gsa...one thing...I really doubt Warmack will be considered in the top 15. If Dallas moves up it would be just a couple of spots from their pick...not into the top 10. Warmack might not be the first OG taken now in this draft.
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It may be my OSU homer attitude speaking, but i'd love to see Simon come to us...
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LOVE IT!
I like his skillset as an ILB for us. He reminds me of a more complete Gocong.
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The OSU homer in me wants us to take Zach Boren in the 6th or 7th, or as a UDFA. I like Simon too, but I think he goes no later than the 2nd round. I don't know if Boren plays FB or ILB in the pros, but I bet he'll be a killer on special teams.
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The OSU homer in me wants us to take Zach Boren in the 6th or 7th, or as a UDFA. I like Simon too, but I think he goes no later than the 2nd round. I don't know if Boren plays FB or ILB in the pros, but I bet he'll be a killer on special teams.
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My 2013 BrownsFan80 Draft
1st round---Dee Millner, CB, Alabama. Stay at 6 unless a 2011 type trade comes along
3rd Round---T.J Mcdonald, S, USC. Ward and Mcdonald, Millner and Haden. Scary
4th Round---Lonnie Pryor, FB, FSU. Need a Dominant FB
5th Round---Brett Mayer, K, Nebraska. Used to kicking in bad climate.
6a----Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico.
6b---Tyler Shaw, Northwest MS St......Burner, slot guy, kick/punt returner.
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If we draft BOTH a kicker AND a fullback, I'll be livid. 
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If we draft BOTH a kicker AND a fullback, I'll be livid.
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If we draft BOTH a kicker AND a fullback, I'll be livid.
Ditto ....... at least in the 4th/5th rounds. Maybe 6th and 7th might be acceptable.
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In fairness, we do need a kicker and a fullback. But I agree that I wouldn't until 6/7.
But look at that draft again. Not only is it a kicker and fullback but also a TE. I wonder if any team in history has had that trifecta in one draft? Conceivably we could do it and also draft a punter! Shudder.
Just noticed that the last draft pick was a kick returner.
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I really wouldn't draft a kicker at all, unless there is someone who is incredible special. There are tons of free agents available, along with soon to be UDFA all over the place. Most will prefer to sign with a team that has an opening if possible ..... and that's us.
I think that Lanning is in the lead as our Punter right now, and we'll probably bring in an UDFA or UFA to battle him for the job as well.
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If we draft BOTH a kicker AND a fullback, I'll be livid.
If you can draft a 5 year starter with a 5, 6 or 7 why would you be livid. I have no problem spending a late round pick on a punter, FB, kicker, long snapper or mascot if he is great at his position.
I dont know if there is a kicker I would draft but there are a couple punters that I would draft as high as the 5th and the same with FB. Actually, I have no problem spending a 4th and beyond on those positions if the kid is good enough.
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