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Here's my all-underrated team. These are guys who have borderline-/un-draftable grades by major scouting services that I think can play. Who are your guys? Doesn't have to be a list this big, just a few names you like that you think are underappreciated. QB: Colby Cameron, LA Tech RB: Khiry Robinson, West Texas A&M RB: Rex Burkhead, Nebraska FB: Braden Wilson, Kansas State TE: Jake Stoneburner, Ohio State LT: Manase Foketi, KSU via WTA&M LG: Josh Dworaczyk, LSU C: Joe Madsen, West Virginia RG: Lamar Mady, Youngstown St. RT: Oscar Johnson, La Tech WR: Chad Bumphis, Mississippi St. WR: Marquess Wilson, Wash St. 4-3 Front Seven LE: Armonty Bryant, East Central (OK) NT: Chris Jones, Bowling Green UT: Joe Vellano, Maryland RE: Travis Johnson, San Jose St. SLB: Etienne Sabino, Ohio State MLB: Vince Williams, Florida St. WLB: Ja'Gared Davis, SMU 3-4 Front Seven DE: AJ Francis, Maryland NT: Byron Jerideau, South Carolina DE: Brandon Moore, Texas OLB: Brandon Sharpe, Syracuse ILB: Taylor Reed, SMU ILB: Jordan Campbell, NM Highlands OLB: Travis Long, Washington St. Defensive Secondary CB: Kayvon Webster, South Florida CB: Travis Howard, Ohio State FS: Rontez Miles, California (Pa) SS: Ray Ray Armstrong, Miami http://cornerblitz.com/2013/DraftTeams/Underrated.aspx (prospect comments/profiles on link)
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Are these 4/5 star recruits that didn't pan out in college? If not how the heck do you have the time to watch this much football. I only say this because of Sabino and his supposed promise coming into OSU. There are a couple of others that jump out at me as well.
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Heheh got a good chuckle from that Hel... I think Ray Ray, Campbell, and Moore kind of fit that decription... not sure if anyone else does.
It really doesn't take that long to get a feel for a guy... a guy sticks out in a game you're watching and you look into him a bit more. It's not as though I watched 6-10 full games of each of these guys. It's all just my opinion based on what I've seen. It's fun!
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I definitely haven't followed the scouting portion as closely as I usually do. I basically am falling back on what I saw during the college football season and some of what I have read.
You do a much better and more thorough job than I would, but here's some thoughts to add.
Of the guys I remember:
Burkhead - a tweener RB. not a burner/slasher, but not a power-back. I guess that makes his ceiling Ahmad Bradshaw, but few of his style get there. He's definitely a tough runner though, so I'd say he's definitely a RB2/RB3 in the NFL.
Stoneburner - there are OSU guys I never want to see on the Browns and ones I really, really hope we find a way to draft. He is one of the guys I'd love to see on the Browns.
Marquess Wilson - is he a good leader who was standing up for his team against an abusive coaching staff? or is he a whiner who couldn't handle a little tough love? that is the main question and why he's dropped. he certainly is a very skilled WR.
Sabino - watching him was like watching Gocong (both the good and the bad). Run to his side and he's going to stone the blocker, shed, and make the tackle. Run away from him (or to the edge) and he just doesn't get there. He'd be great for run package defenses and if it was 15-20 years ago, he'd likely be guaranteed a starting spot for a long time.
V. Williams - actually a bit like Sabino. He's not going to lead anyone in TFL or sacks or big plays, but he's going to be steady. He was definitely the leader of the FSU defense (and that does count for something). He's a bit better in coverage as well (but that's not a plus for him either).
B.Moore - agreed that 3-4 DE is the spot for him. he was a good space-eater for Texas but really wasn't as dynamic as advertised (of course, being here in Austin they were expecting the former Bama signee to tear things up).
B.Sharpe - I watched a couple Syracuse games but I don't remember a thing about him. I see that he did well with TFL (15) and sacks (7), so I probably just watched a couple quiet games for him.
T.Long - I've read good things about him, but I don't know how people can figure out how good he is. Wash.State was a disaster. Just completely unorganized and a mess.
Howard - careful, people are going to start calling you a Buckeye-honk. Howard is going to benefit from the move to big-CB's in the NFL (I think) and be drafted somewhat earlier than what I have seen on mocks (IMO - 3rd/4th round pick). He is a terrible form tackler, but is quicker/faster than it looks like he should be. I think he'll do fine in the NFL.
Ray Ray - hey, he's a true coach on the field (sorry, couldn't resist). Always a risk bringing in a guy who hasn't played in a year.
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Howard - careful, people are going to start calling you a Buckeye-honk.
Yeah, I kind of felt that way, but I only wanted to mention guys I felt confident in.
It seems like when teams get put on probation, the players start to get overlooked as draft prospects. The Buckeyes had a pretty good bunch of players this past year.
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Only 300+ on nfldraftscout players:
QB: Colby Cameron, LA Tech RB: Rex Burkhead, Nebraska FB: Braden Wilson, Kansas State TE: Ryan Griffin, UConn LT: Elvis Fisher, MissouriManase Foketi, KSU via WTA&M LG: Matt Summers-Gavins, Cal C: Joe Madsen, West Virginia RG: Omoregi Uzzi, Georgia Tech RT: Oscar Johnson, La Tech WR: Emory Blake, Auburn WR: TJ Moe, Missouri
3-4 Front Seven DE: AJ Francis, Maryland NT: G.Pena, Ole Miss DE: Will Pericak, Colorado OLB: Brandon Sharpe, Syracuse ILB: Bruce Taylor, Virginia Tech ILB: Will Compton, Nebraska OLB: Travis Long, Washington St.
Defensive Secondary CB: Demontre Hurst, Oklahoma CB: Nigel Malone, Kansas State FS: Jarred Holley, Pittsburgh / John Boyett, Oregon SS: Jordan Kovacs, Michigan
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I think you have a typo there... Bruce Taylor is a nice ILB for Virginia Tech... good leader and effort but not he most physically gifted, and Josh Francis is a speedy, undersized WILB prospect (good tackler) for West Virginia.... you meant the hokie, right?
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Yep, Virginia Tech not West Virginia Mind oyu though, this is DEEP sleeper team, mostly UDFAs that I think could stick as solid backups/ST guys, not much starter upside there, maybe for one of the OL. I really want the Browns to take Emory Blake (former NFL-QB's Jeff Blake's son, btw) into TC somehow, late pick or UDFA...he'd be hard to cut. Very underrated imho...there are also some big school/high talent sleepers on that team like Will Compton, but overall it's my UDFA list I want us to bring in
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He is definitely not underrated. He is a player that will probably not get drafted, yet some people here would probably use a fourth round pick on him because he has a crazy story. That is overrated.
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Lalich is a WCO project, nothing to look at for Norv and Chud imho
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QB Sidd Finch - Converted pitcher
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sorry, but he ran off to Neverland with Lennay Kukua
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I'll stick to what I know.. AJ Francis could be pretty good but has always struggled with his weight. If he can have the discipline to stay in shape, he could be decent. Joe Vallano will get eaten alive as a DT at the 280-285 he played at in college. Quality run stopper if he can bulk up without losing any of his athleticism. Those are the only 2 guys on your list I've ever heard of.
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Never heard 4th rounder here?? I know I have been one of the few ever to mention him. At first for a possible pick of one of our 6th rounders...after the Colt trade possibly our 7th. But never mentioned on any mocks or any sites which is what I thought warranted Under Rated. But once again...I am wrong - My Bad.
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