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#781030 - 04/26/13 09:04 PM Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State
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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1701015/leon-mcfadden

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03/28/2013 - 2013 San Diego State Pro Day: San Diego State and Hawaii held their pro days together in San Diego on March 19. Workouts were held outdoors on FieldTurf. All 32 NFL teams were present, including defensive back coaches from San Diego and tight end coaches from Cincinnati, Philadelphia and San Diego. Leon McFadden, CB (5-11, 192) - McFadden had a 34 1/2-inch vertical and did positional drills. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com
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Overview

A former wide receiver recruit out of high school, McFadden moved over to the secondary as a freshman and worked his way into a starting role. He progressed each season and earned First Team All-Mountain West honors each of the past three seasons. With lofty expectations, McFadden had a productive senior season in 2012 with 15 passes defended and a career-best 3 interceptions, which he returned for 124 yards (41.3 average) and a pair of scores.

McFadden finishes his career as one of the most decorated defensive players at San Diego State. He leaves the Aztecs with 47 career passes defended and 8 interceptions, starting 45 games over his career. The son of a nine-year MLB veteran, McFadden is a talented all-around athlete with the fluid skill-set and productive resume to make an impact at the next level.


Analysis

Strengths: Fluid feet, hips and joints to quickly change directions and stick with receivers up and down the field. Natural speed to cover vertical routes and recover after false steps. Aggressive with the ball in the air and won?t concede anything thrown his way. Natural instincts with a knack for always knowing where the ball is located. Plays the position with a fearless demeanor to bait throws and takes chances in coverage. Good chase skills and plays fast in pursuit, only knowing one speed. Solidly-built and has better functional strength than expected. Very strong resume with excellent experience and production. Already has strong practice habits and a pro demeanor.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal height and length and doesn?t have much growth potential. Needs to be more consistent as a tackler to hit through the ballcarrier and wrap. Can be out-muscled by bigger receivers and his lack of size will show at times. Inconsistent in press coverage and looks more natural in off-man or in space.
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#781031 - 04/26/13 09:05 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: TTTDawg]
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Like I said on the other thread, McFadden has a good break on the ball. It's obvious that our philosphy on defense is to play fast and create turnovers.

A CB who can break on the ball on the back end of that defense where we are going to put a lot of pressure on the QB is more valuable than a big physical CB.

I like the pick.
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#781032 - 04/26/13 09:06 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: TTTDawg]
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Workout Results
40 = 4.50
20 = 2.55
10 = 1.56
Bench = 10
Vertical = 34.50
Broad = 9'11"
Shuttle = 4.27
Cone = 6.81
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#781033 - 04/26/13 09:07 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: TopDawg16]
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I liked other CBs better, because this kid looks like a slot CB due to his height. Would have loved to draft the CB out of UConn but we shall see.
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#781034 - 04/26/13 09:14 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: BigWillieStyle]
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Are there any starting CBs left in free agency worth signing?

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#781035 - 04/26/13 09:14 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: BigWillieStyle]
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I love this pick. This kid fits our defense perfectly.

We will pressure the quarterback. We will hurry throws.

This kid has great feet. He gets an excellent break on the ball. He will challenge receivers. He is a bit of a gambler, but that should be good in Horton's defense.

Love his feet. Love his closing speed on the ball.

Excellent pick..

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#781036 - 04/26/13 09:14 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: BigWillieStyle]
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I'm very content with both Mingo and McFadden. We're addressing our D and it's pretty pleasing overall with these picks. Sad that we didn't get a 2nd Round pick but we haven't made any bad picks.

Welcome to Cleveland, "Bark" and McFadden!


Edited by Fox&Hound7 (04/26/13 09:15 PM)

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#781037 - 04/26/13 09:15 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: TTTDawg]
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WHOOOA they passed up ALOT of talent to get this guy!
that is all.
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#781038 - 04/26/13 09:16 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Punchsmack]
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More breakdown...

NFL Comparison
Brent Grimes

Bottom Line
McFadden's a tenacious three-time All-Mountain West selection possessing the strength, quickness, attitude, and ball skills required of NFL starters, even if his size is not ideal to handle the physicality of veteran wideouts. Many shorter corners who play with similar strength and temperament have succeeded at the next level, which will help him nail down top-75 grades from scouts.


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#781039 - 04/26/13 09:16 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Fox&Hound7]
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I see both picks as bad picks. BUT I hope I am wrong and freely admit that I am not a draft expert.
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#781040 - 04/26/13 09:17 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Versatile Dog]
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Well he's an ex-receiver and I saw the highlights of his combine workout. He does catch the ball as well as any DB could be expected to.

Outside of that the guy screams average on just about every other measurable. Hope he's a good CB2 for us.
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#781041 - 04/26/13 09:17 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Chinchilla7222]
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Are there any starting CBs left in free agency worth signing?




Ironically, I was just looking as the FA CB's on the ESPN link below.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/freeagency/index?year=2013&position=29
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#781042 - 04/26/13 09:18 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: THROW LONG]
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WHOOOA they passed up ALOT of talent to get this guy!
that is all.





who do you have in mind.. just asking
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#781043 - 04/26/13 09:20 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: GMdawg]
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I see both picks as bad picks. BUT I hope I am wrong and freely admit that I am not a draft expert.




In all honesty, don't instantly judge a draft pick the moment it's announced. It's hard not to considering some picks, but for these picks, they're worth supporting until they prove otherwise.

If any of us were draft experts, we wouldn't be here.

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#781044 - 04/26/13 09:21 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Versatile Dog]
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I don't hate it or anything, but really had a man crush on BWW...lol.

I think we are going to live and die on our ability to create turnovers/big plays ( I know duh). The previous regime seem to prefer a disciplined bend but don't break style, but I agree these guys want big plays. I think they are ok knowing that they will give up there share of big plays, but plan on making up for it by creating their own.


Both ways can work but this should be more fun to watch
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#781045 - 04/26/13 09:22 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: texaslostdawg]
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WHOOOA they passed up ALOT of talent to get this guy!
that is all.





who do you have in mind.. just asking




Don't bother, he had that post prepared before the announcment of the selection.

Some posters assume the worst no matter what happens.
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#781046 - 04/26/13 09:22 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: TTTDawg]
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This works for me. We needed a corner and we got one. I don't know anything about him, but hopefully we grabbed the best of the three that went in a row around us.
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#781047 - 04/26/13 09:24 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Fox&Hound7]
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Oh trust me I have been saying give a guy three years before we really know about him for years. Ask anybody who knows me on the board I never rush to judgement. Like I said I don't like the picks but I will wait three years to make a final judgement, and I will support them 100 percent until that time.
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#781048 - 04/26/13 09:24 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: GMdawg]
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I see both picks as bad picks. BUT I hope I am wrong and freely admit that I am not a draft expert.




But you did use the bathroom at a Holiday Inn last night though right?
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#781049 - 04/26/13 09:26 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: dawglover05]
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Yes but I told my wife I was at work so shhhhh.
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#781050 - 04/26/13 09:26 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: GMdawg]
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I see both picks as bad picks. BUT I hope I am wrong and freely admit that I am not a draft expert.




Battered fan syndrome.

You admitted to not seeing Mingo play last night.

I'm willing to bet you haven't seen much of McFadden.

I can't blame you, but it seems as if you're being negative towards the picks just because we're the Browns...
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#781051 - 04/26/13 09:26 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Fox&Hound7]
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Quote:

I see both picks as bad picks. BUT I hope I am wrong and freely admit that I am not a draft expert.




In all honesty, don't instantly judge a draft pick the moment it's announced. It's hard not to considering some picks, but for these picks, they're worth supporting until they prove otherwise.

If any of us were draft experts, we wouldn't be here.





Well F&H7, as far as no experts here, I'm finding the opposite the more and more posts/replies I read.
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#781052 - 04/26/13 09:26 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Browns Lifer]
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That 4.5 40 worries me. Not much faster than Mingo. But we shall see. If he contributes it's fine.... Still, as of now Buster Skrine is our starting corner opposite Haden.
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#781053 - 04/26/13 09:30 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: TopDawg16]
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Nope not battered fan bro. I just don't like taking a skinny DE when I don't see a major need for him right now, and I don't see a need to reach for a CB when their might have been better choices available. I will root for these guys from here on out, and I will wait three years to pass judgement on them. I just don't agree with our picks so far. Only time will determine if I am right or wrong
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#781054 - 04/26/13 09:30 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Spiritbro77]
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That 4.5 40 worries me. Not much faster than Mingo. But we shall see. If he contributes it's fine.... Still, as of now Buster Skrine is our starting corner opposite Haden.




Yep. We`ll see about this kid but on paper? Skrine is a better CB and starts as of now.

And that sucks.

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#781055 - 04/26/13 09:35 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: GMdawg]
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Sheesh.........you guys are killing me!

All I've been reading is how we NEED TO DRAFT A CB. Now, we draft one and I read that we don't have a major need for a cb.

You guys and your hating is beyond ridiculous!

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#781056 - 04/26/13 09:36 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: redddog]
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Wanna place a wager on that one?

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#781057 - 04/26/13 09:36 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: redddog]
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That 4.5 40 worries me. Not much faster than Mingo. But we shall see. If he contributes it's fine.... Still, as of now Buster Skrine is our starting corner opposite Haden.




Yep. We`ll see about this kid but on paper? Skrine is a better CB and starts as of now.

And that sucks.




Haden's official 40 time was slower.

And GM - why is Skrine better on paper? I have no opinion one way or the other, but whats the rationale?

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#781058 - 04/26/13 09:38 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: GMdawg]
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I don't know a lot about this kid so when I look at his measurables his height is the first thing I see. Now having read several good explanations in this thread about how his skills complement what the Browns are likely to do up front it makes sense. I'm going to go find some tape on him.
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#781059 - 04/26/13 09:38 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Versatile Dog]
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I'm happy that we went CB... I'm not a big fan of short DBs but don't know his kid much and have watched a few videos tonight and have liked what I've seen so far... one nice thing is there were three CBs taken all in a row so we'll be able ot see how good he pick was compared to those other two guys in a few years.
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#781060 - 04/26/13 09:40 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: TopDawg16]
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Like I said on the other thread, McFadden has a good break on the ball. It's obvious that our philosphy on defense is to play fast and create turnovers.

A CB who can break on the ball on the back end of that defense where we are going to put a lot of pressure on the QB is more valuable than a big physical CB.

I like the pick.




I'm good with the pick as well. Still, imo we need another or 2 more.

Plus, Rome wasn't built in a day, a draft, or a year. Banner did say that we weren't gonna fill all the holes this year, or something to that effect.

If we get the pressure on QB's that we/they think we can deliver, that pressure can make avg CB's seem top notch.

Need imo 1 more CB and at least 1 FS. Either thru the rest of the draft and/or amongst the remaining unsigned vet FA's, we gotta get em.
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#781061 - 04/26/13 09:41 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: jaybird]
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I have a buddy who lives in SD and is a huge SDSU fan, as soon as he saw the Browns picked McFadden he texted me and told me I'm going to love him.

Obviously hes no draft expert either but he raved about McFadden.

*Edit- I'll add he isn't typically a homer, he will rag on players he feels deserve it so I trust his opinion.


Edited by FrostDawg31 (04/26/13 09:42 PM)

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#781062 - 04/26/13 09:42 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: Versatile Dog]
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Sheesh.........you guys are killing me!

All I've been reading is how we NEED TO DRAFT A CB. Now, we draft one and I read that we don't have a major need for a cb.

You guys and your hating is beyond ridiculous!




OH I agree we need a starting CB bro, I am just not sure that the one we drafted is any better the any of the guys already on our roster.
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#781063 - 04/26/13 09:45 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: PDR]
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And GM - why is Skrine better on paper? I have no opinion one way or the other, but whats the rationale?




Buster has speed to burn, but he lacked experience coming out of college. IMO This is his make or break year but the kid does work his butt off on the field and on his playbook.
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#781064 - 04/26/13 09:45 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: BigWillieStyle]
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HEheh//only reason to not like McFadden is height..he is a fluid corner is good at man coverage..just the type for this defense.Explian something to me..I have seen a lot of people on different boards wanting the Browns to take Honey Badger,,dude is even shorter than LM..and not better in coverage..don't get that..


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#781065 - 04/26/13 09:45 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: GMdawg]
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GM, Mingo will be a LB for us, no way he plays DE. He's the same size as Von Miller (30 sacks in his first 2 years) so I think he's not too small either. If he can give us that production, I'll be happy.
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#781066 - 04/26/13 09:46 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: jaybird]
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In 1999 we took a 5'8 CB Daylon McCutcheon who was a staple for 5 to 7 years in the secondary. If Leon McFadden plays like Daylon with Haden on the other side I will be very happy.

McFadden had a very good senior bowl. Showed good man skills and ball skills. Cannot complain about this pick at all.

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#781067 - 04/26/13 09:50 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: TheJoker]
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I think Skrine will be a pleasant surprise this year...yet I'd still like to sign a vet to help out...even Sheldon Brown to see what he's got left

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#781068 - 04/26/13 09:53 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: WSU Willie]
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j/c

I think Skrine will be a pleasant surprise this year...yet I'd still like to sign a vet to help out...even Sheldon Brown to see what he's got left




skrine a pleasant surprise? ???? yeah he will be a pleasant surprise if he doesnt see much of the field......that guy was burnt more then toast last year.
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#781069 - 04/26/13 09:54 PM Re: Pick #68 Leon McFadden CB SD State [Re: TheJoker]
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GM, Mingo will be a LB for us, no way he plays DE. He's the same size as Von Miller (30 sacks in his first 2 years) so I think he's not too small either. If he can give us that production, I'll be happy.




I know Mingo will be a LB for us, but will be any better than JS? At the number 6 pick in the draft I think we should be getting a sure fire starter that we can plug in for the next 10 years, and I am not sure that Bark is that guy (but I sure hope that he is)
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