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Following the discussion in the Tony Gwynn thread, and knowing that there are countless variations, I'd like to see what you guys would see as a best-of-the-best lineup in baseball by position (including DH).
I'm not sure I'd even know where to start, outside of that I'd have Rickey Henderson on my list in LF, though I'm biased because of my lifelong man-crush on him.
I put him on there because he was a pretty good fielder, but he was just so dangerous as a leadoff hitter and base-runner.
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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1. Roberto Alomar 2B 2. Willie Mays CF 3. Lou Gehrig 1B 4. Babe Ruth DH 5. Ted Williams RF 6. Frank Robinson LF 7. Mike Schmidt 3B 8. Johnny Bench C 9. Omar Vizquel SS
RH SP - Bob Gibson LH SP - Sandy Koufax RH RP - Rollie Fingers LH RP - Sparky Lyle
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This is easy, though I am going to exclude the old time players like Ruth, Cobb, etc.
C - Johnny Bench 1B - Albert Pujols 2B - Joe Morgan 3B - Mike Schmidt SS - Alex Rodriguez LF - Barry Bonds CF - Willie Mays RF - Hank Aaron
SP - Roger Clemens Closer - Mariano Rivera
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C: Carlton Fisk 1st: Hank Aaron 2nd:Jeff Kent? 3rd: Mike Schmidt SS: A-Rod LF: Barry Bonds CF: Ty Cobb RF: Babe Ruth Util: Rickey Henderson
SP: Nolan Ryan Closer: The hand of God. Mo Rivera.
Fantasy baseball is about category juice. Disregard defense.
These are just off the top of my head, guys I know put in that category juice.
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Why would you exclude all time players?
I guess it also depends on their position eligibility. Some played different positions throughout their career.
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I built for defense up the middle and power on the corners. My 2B, CF, and C just happen to also be great hitters too. Omar, while not a great hitter, was a pretty good one, and he was the best defensive SS I ever saw. Also, I don't play Fantasy baseball so I wasn't thinking in those terms when I chose. Instead, I tried to put together a team that would have great hitting, great defense and great pitching. So you can ROFL all you want; I think my team would win about 130 games a season.
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Just because he is the best you have ever seen doesn't mean he is the best.
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Well, it is my team after all. I know a lot would choose Ozzie Smith or Derek Jeter. I think Omar was a better hitter than Ozzie, and a much better fielder than Jeter.
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You understand we're talking about fantasy baseball right?
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You understand we're talking about fantasy baseball right?
The title says Fantasy, the post talks about best of the best... so which is it, are we compiling stats or building a team to win? If it is really fantasy then it's a mathematical exercise and there is an absolute right answer somebody just has to figure out what it is... if you are talking about building the best team ever, then it become very subjective with some offensive/defensive trade-offs..
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The offensive defensive trade-offs aren't that great if you have an outfield of Bonds, Mays, Aaron with A-Rod at short (all of those players also happened to be pretty great fielders in their primes as well).
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I'm just going with guys in my lifetime.
1. Jeter, SS 2. Alomar, 2B 3. Bonds, LF 4. Mi. Cabrera, DH 5. Pujols, 1B 6. M. Ramirez, RF 7. Schmidt, 3B 8. Bench, C 9. Griffey Jr. CF
SP Randy Johnson CP Rivera
I really didn't get to see Schmidt or Bench play, but when I was born those guys were just finishing it out. They were, and are baseball legends.
I really wanted to put Frank Thomas on here, because of the fear he put into opposing pitchers, but Pujols is just better.
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If we are just going pure offense then Piazza is the catcher of all these teams.
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The offensive defensive trade-offs aren't that great if you have an outfield of Bonds, Mays, Aaron with A-Rod at short (all of those players also happened to be pretty great fielders in their primes as well).
That's true but I see a lot of Robby Alomar at 2nd.. I'd go with Ryan Sandberg... or Roger Hornsby..
3rd base, Schmidts a good choice but an argument could be made for George Brett or Brooks Robinson...
1st base, Pujols or Bagwell..
Short I might have to go with Cal Ripken Jr.
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Joe Morgan is the best second basemen of all time. Ripken is good, but offensively he is not close to A-Rod.
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Sorry, maybe title is misleading.
I was just asking if you were to put together your all-time best lineup, what would it be?
I am unfamiliar with this feeling of optimism
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Joe Morgan is the best second basemen of all time.
Why? Because his .271 BA is better than Sandbergs .285? His 16 HR per year is better than Sandbergs 21? His 69 RBI's per year are better than Sandbergs 79? or because Sandbergs career .989 fielding percentage, which is the best all time, isn't better?
And I took Ripken.. well because I just don't like ARod..
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Good thread. I was thinking about this earlier.
I am going to exclude guys who I never saw play. One good thing about being old is that I saw a lot of guys. LOL
SRHP: Tom Seaver SRHP: Bob Gibson SLHP: Sandy Koufax SLHP: Steve Carlton Closer: Mariano Rivera
C: Carlton Fisk 1B: Rod Carew [but Gerhrig and Jimmie Foxx are probably way better] 2B: Roberto Alomar [Rogers Hornsby is probably the best ever] 3B: Mike Schmidt SS: Derek Jeter [tough call] LF: Hank Aaron [I know he played RF, but it's my team] CF: Willie Mays RF: Roberto Clemente DH: Barry Bonds
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Sandberg was a very good hitter, but do you remember when he couldn't make the throw from 2nd to first? All mental.
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Go look at Morgan's peak years. They are most definitely not better than Sandberg.
And fielding percentage? Really?
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I'm just going to list guys I've seen play.
C Johnny Bench 1B Albert Pujols 2B Ryne Sandberg SS Derek Jeter 3B Mike Schmidt LF Rickey Henderson CF Ken Griffey jr. RF Reggie Jackson
RSP Greg Maddux LSP Randy Johnson RP Mariano Rivera
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C Johnny Bench 1B Willie McCovey 2B Roberto Alomar SS Ozzie Smith 3B Mike Schmidt LF Hank Aaron (Had To Put Him Somewhere) CF Willie Mays RF Roberto Clemente DH Barry Bonds DH Tony Gwen
RSP Bob Gibson LH SP - Sandy Koufax RP - Rollie Fingers
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C Johnny Bench 1B Lou Gerigh 2B Rod Carew 3B Mike Schmidt SS Cal Ripkin OF Babe Ruth OF Ty Cobb OF Willie Mays DH Ted Williams
RHP Greg Maddox RHP Bob Gibson LHP Lefty Grove LHP Sandy Koufax
RP Dennis Eckersly
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C - Mike Piazza 1B - Lou Gehrig 2B - Rogers Hornsby 3B - Alex Rodriguez SS - Honus Wagner LF - Ted Williams CF - Ty Cobb RF - Babe Ruth
SP - Pedro Martinez Closer - Mariano Rivera
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My all 80's/90's team... really the players I grew up watching.
C - Mike Piazza 1B - Don Mattingly 2B - Ryan Sandberg 3B - Wade Boggs SS - Derek Jeter LF - Manny Ramirez CF - Kenny Lofton RF - Tony Gwynn DH - Kirby Puckett
SP - Randy Johnson Closer - Mariano Rivera
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A 90s team without Griffey? C'mon.
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C- Bench 1B- Gehrig 2B- Hornsby SS - Concepcion 3B - Schmidt LF - Williams CF - Mantle RF - Yastrzemski DH - J Dimaggio
RHP - Sever LHP - Kofax Closer - Sutter
I know, Williams and Yaz both played LF, but how can you argue with a lineup with 7 Triple Crowns. I had a difficult choice at 2B between Hornsby, a 2 time Triple Crown Winner and Pete Rose, baseball's All Time Hits Leader.
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