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This one is already hitting in Florida and it isn't supposed to take affect until July 1. Workers are leaving en' mass. They are not in the strawberry fields-they are not on construction sites-they are leaving resorts.

a large percentage of the work in the hospitality, agriculture, construction industry is done by undocumented workers.
Now, we are finally going to see if Americans can or want to do the work that these people do. I saw one one employment placement in Polk County needed like 7,000 workers and most of the jobs were filled by people with work visa's or undocumented workers. They said that they hired about 300 "white" people and about 15 or 16 of them lasted longer than a couple months. Nothing like lugging a 80 pound sack of oranges up and down a ladder 18-20 feet in the air for 8+ hours a day.

I saw another interview of a smaller statue woman that was probably in her early 50's who said that she was so sore she could barely even walk and that she probably couldn't continue more than another day or two. She was bringing home about 30 dollars a day picking sweet potatoes and it wasn't enough for gas in her car and food and she simply couldn't handle it.


https://www.littler.com/publication...immigration-law-affect-private-employers

NEWS & ANALYSISASAP
How Will Florida’s New Immigration Law Affect Private Employers?
By Angel Valverde and Jorge Lopez on May 10, 2023PRINT
On May 10, 2023, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed into law a new immigration bill (SB 1718) that will make sweeping changes for private employers with 25 or more employees. Passed by the Florida Senate on April 28, 2023 and by the Florida House of Representatives on May 2, 2023, this bill includes immigration-related provisions that will do the following:

Require the Florida Department of Economic Opportunity (DEO) to enforce penalties requiring repayment of any economic development incentives or revocation of all applicable licenses, if the DEO finds or is notified that an employer has knowingly employed an individual who is not duly authorized to work;
As of July 1, 2023, require private employers with 25 or more employees to use the E-Verify system to verify a new employee’s employment eligibility;
Prohibit counties and municipalities from providing funds to any person, entity or organization that issues identification documents to an individual who does not provide proof of lawful presence in the United States;
Refuse to recognize driver’s licenses issued by another state to undocumented individuals who were unable to prove lawful presence in the United States when the licenses were issued;
Require certain hospitals to collect patient immigration status on registration or admission forms;
Repeal a regulation that allowed undocumented immigrants to be admitted to practice law in Florida; and
Define Human Smuggler as any person who knowingly and willfully transports an undocumented individual into the state, who knows or who “reasonably should have [known]” the individual’s immigration status. The bill also establishes criminal penalties for individuals who knowingly and willfully transport an undocumented individual into the state.
Under this bill, the Florida DEO may impose penalties on a person if they knowingly employ, hire, recruit, or refer for private or public employment, an individual unauthorized to work. Previously, enforcement authority vested with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE). The DEO is authorized to impose the following civil penalties:

Require repayment of any economic development incentive;
Place the employer on probation for a 1-year period and require that the employer report quarterly to the DEO to demonstrate compliance with the statute;
If a violation of the statute takes place within 24 months after a previous violation, the DEO will be empowered to revoke or suspend all licenses issued by a licensing agency subject to Chapter 120 of the Florida Statutes.1
If the subsequent violation involves 1-10 unauthorized workers, the DEO can suspend all applicable licenses held by a private employer for up to 30 days by the respective agencies that issued them.
If the subsequent violation involves 11-50 unauthorized workers, the DEO can suspend all applicable licenses held by a private employer for up to 60 days by the respective agencies that issued them.
If the subsequent violation involves more than 50 unauthorized workers, the DEO can revoke applicable licenses held by a private employer by the respective agencies that issued them.
Additionally, the bill requires, starting on July 1, 2023, all private employers with 25 or more employees use the E-Verify system to verify a new employee’s employment eligibility. It is currently not an absolute requirement. The employment verification will need to occur within three business days after the first day the new employee begins working for pay. Those employers required to use E-Verify will be required to certify on their annual tax returns that they are in compliance with this requirement when contributing to or reimbursing the state’s unemployment compensation or reemployment assistance system. If the E-Verify system is unavailable during the three business days after the first day the new employee begins working, the employer will still need to complete an Employment Eligibility Verification form (Form I-9) to verify employment eligibility.

Regardless of this mandate, according to federal regulations, all employers must verify the identity and employment authorization documents by completing and retaining Form I-9 before creating a case in the E-Verify system.

Furthermore, according to this bill, employers must retain a copy of the documentation provided and any official verification generated, for at least three years. The bill does not indicate whether the document retention requirement will be triggered by the date of employment or will begin three years after the date of employment termination. Based on federal regulations, it is likely the bill intends the document retention requirement be triggered by the date of employment. Federal regulations state that an employer must retain a Form I-9 for each person hired for three years after the date of hire, or one year after the date employment ends, whichever is later.

Finally, beginning on July 1, 2024, if the DEO determines that an employer failed to use E-Verify three or more times in any 24-month period, it may fine the employer $1,000 per day (from the date that the DEO determines that the employer failed to use the E-Verify System) in addition to suspending all licenses, until the employer provides proof of compliance. This mandate applies only to new employees; it does not apply to past hires or existing employees.

The new law takes effect on July 1, 2023.
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Originally Posted by jaybird
Originally Posted by superbowldogg
Originally Posted by northlima dawg
This one is already hitting in Florida and it isn't supposed to take affect until July 1. Workers are leaving en' mass. They are not in the strawberry fields-they are not on construction sites-they are leaving resorts.

a large percentage of the work in the hospitality, agriculture, construction industry is done by undocumented workers.
Now, we are finally going to see if Americans can or want to do the work that these people do.

Good!

What people don't realize is that the quality of work will be raised significantly if it is done by citizens vs people who are in the USA illegally.


Completely disagree... I want our workers to be documented... but to assume the quality of work by undocumented workers is poor is misguided...

Think it depends on the industry.

I can say that as more and more framing, roofing and drywall crews evolved to more migrant crews, the "quality" of the work definitely suffered. What we can't say for sure though is if that was due to the change in the workers doing the work, the communication gap, the cultural differences in what "quality" may mean, or just a general change in overall quality expectations in the workplace across all industries.

I know most businesses will claim quality is top priority, but I'd argue, getting the project done, on time, sometimes means sacrificing quality. And we are a culture of instant gratification, quality takes time, no one wants to wait for it though.

"I want the product, for the lowest price, with the best quality, and I want it now.", "Well you can pick 2, not all 3."
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