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After this last Philly drive I would expect to see some gas leaving... I hope not .. Chips O is fast..

I'm getting sick watching these Olines block and open holes.

Weren't you watching the Jets line yesterday?

But these guys are playing against teams that give a damn.

J/c... How do they not call pass interference on that play ? the defender isn't looking back for the ball and is making contact with the receiver..

Was it because he was falling forward ? but still falling into the receiver... I don't understand penalty calls like this... help me guys / gals

He touched him after the ball hit him.

so the ball hitting the defender in the back of the helmet is allowed because the ball hit him first ? sorry. I don;t understand.. I thought the defender had to be looking back for the ball.. might need to re watch it.. I really appreciate your help with this. thank you

49er's have some ugly uni's

Those unis are awesome.

Rish .. you messing with me ? lol


Hey Phil got a block bet he don;t like them.. lol

No I like them.

They look like black widow spiders.

The numbers look red and the stripes sort of have a pinkish grape look... I don't know...I'm just used to the 49er's brighter look..

bridgewater damn lucky he didn't get picked

Why is Minnesota trying to get cute?

You just got Adrian Peterson back.

They look hideous to me also, The helmet doesn't go with them at all. They make the Browns candy corn Brown jersey/Florida Orange pants concept look brilliant.

Carlos Hyde looks fantastic.

I don't understand what Minny is trying to do here at all. Six touches for Peterson in the first half?

Middle finger statement is the only answer I can come up with.

They can't block.

Bridgewater has had little protection, but when he has had protection he has been bad. Not a good week for last year's QB class.

vikes 3 san fran20


Passing


T. Bridgewater 23/32CO/AT 231YDS 0 TD 1 INT 0-1 as a starter


Rushing CAR YDS TD LG
A. Peterson 10 31 0 9
J. McKinnon 3 20 0 15
Receiving REC YDS TD LG
M. Wallace 6 63 0 19
K. Rudolph 5 53 0 19
A. Peterson 3 21 0 17

It seems like his passes are very soft. That's great on shorter passes, as it creates a very catchable ball ... but he has very little intermediate to deep game at all from what I can see. I wonder how he would do in the swirling wind of CBS in December? Further, I thought that his footwork was really, really sloppy.

I also wonder why Norv didn't run AP more. Man, get him going and it opens everything else up.

Their offensive line couldn't do anything. It looked like us against the Jets, but with less pass protection. The 49ers were getting after it.

Gotta disagree with you on this (the Jones part). I don't think it's wise to pass up a game-changing play maker for more first round picks.

Every time I see Julio Jones lighting up this league, I wanna punch Tom Heckert right in the nose.

Make the right picks and you don't have those thoughts. If we have Ryan Tannehill and Alshon Jeffery on the roster right now I think you'd be signing a different tune.

Gotta admit, I really thought All Day would have been involved more and etc. He had like 30 yards on 10 carries.

I didn't watch the game, but 10 carries? Norv, you got the best back in the league there... I'd be handing it to him snap after snap.

Well, that's the issue, isn't it? This team can't draft worth a lick. It's just a maddening fact of life. So when a virtual can't-miss STUD falls into your lap...TAKE HIM!!

Once Kelly adjusted his offense, the Eagles were fine.

Or Russell Wilson...

I was trying to think of players that were at least somewhat in the discussion at the time. But yes, that would have been nice (although I'm not sure Shurmur wouldn't have ruined him).

The whole league missed on Wilson, but instead of TRich, Weeden, Mingo, Gilbert and Manziel, the Browns could have either Tannehill or Bridgewater at QB, one or two of ODB, Jeffrey, J.Matthews at WR, Bernard, L.Bell or Hyde at RB and Rhodes or Fuller at CB...without too much hindsight involved. I don't expect to hit all of those picks, nobody's perfect, but damn, with multiple top picks year after year I expect more than a 0% hit rate

Don't forget Aaron Donald!

Wilson would have never been allowed to develop here. People forget how raw he was his rookie year. He was only successful in backyard football mode, and at one point he was going to be benched.

The Cleveland talk show mouth pieces and fans would have lit the guy up. Coaches would have been fired, GMs fired, and the next guys up would want their guys and Wilson would have likely been jettisoned to another team.

Players should honestly thank their lucky stars when they don't get drafted by the Browns. Their careers actually have a chance.

Exactly, they lost by less.

On another note, Bridgwater looked horrible.

...and Sheldon Richardson. I loved Donald out of that draft, but he was a pure 4-3 DT when we played a pure 3-4.

This constant scheme switching has cost us multiple high picks and good vets too that didn't fit later on (Sheard, Taylor, Rubin and recently Winn). Remeber the discussion that we'Re good to switch to Horton's 3-4 after Holmgren/Heckert? Funny how that "evolved", lol

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...-russell-wilson

Dave Dameshek's imaginative "N'if'L" series has already envisioned a scenario in which Russell Wilson was drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles rather than the Seattle Seahawks.

Dameshek didn't know how close he came to nailing that hypothetical scenario.

Seahawks coach Pete Carroll revealed Monday that general manager John Schneider had to talk him into drafting the under-sized quarterback.

"John convinced me on Russell," Carroll told TheMMQB.com's Peter King . "He was on him early, then he came back from seeing him late in his season at Wisconsin, I think against Michigan State, and he was so enthused about him. I watched a lot of tape on him, and John was right on. Then he got here, and he was everything John said he was."

Football observers are reluctant to acknowledge the role that luck plays in turning franchises around, but this is one of many indications that the Seahawks were fortunate to wind up with Wilson.

Schneider thought highly enough of Wilson that he wanted to pull the trigger in Round 2 of the 2012 NFL Draft. The Seahawks ended up waiting a round, picking up star middle linebacker Bobby Wagner along with Wilson.

Had Schneider been unable to sway Carroll on the merits of Wilson, the Seahawks might have lost out to the Eagles, Jets, Packers, Colts or Redskins -- all of whom had Wilson on their radar.

In fact, NFL Media's Daniel Jeremiah confirmed that then-Eagles coach Andy Reid "loved" Wilson and was set to draft him at No. 88 overall -- 13 spots after he went off the board to Seattle.

Wilson ultimately ended up playing for Carroll and Schneider because fortune favors the bold.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/28/pete-carroll-thinks-russell-wilson-can-be-great/

Pete Carroll thinks Russell Wilson can be great
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 28, 2012, 8:12 AM EDT
Pete Carroll AP

Seahawks coach Pete Carroll knows some people think Russell Wilson is too short to play quarterback in the NFL. But Carroll knows something else: Wilson was a good enough player in college, first at North Carolina State and then at Wisconsin, that there’s a chance he could be a great player in the NFL. And if you have a chance to take a quarterback who might be great in the third round of the NFL draft, you take him.

“More than anybody else that was alive in the draft, this guy gives you a chance to have a great player,” Carroll said, via the Seattle Times. “It’s going to be really exciting to see what he can bring. All he’s ever done is be great.”

The Seahawks took Wilson in the third round, No. 75 overall, making him the highest drafted quarterback in Seattle since Rick Mirer was the second overall pick in 1993. Carroll thinks he may be a steal.

“This is such an incredible athlete that has had extraordinary, historic success,” Carroll said. “He has done things that people had never thought of before. The fact that he was also such an extraordinary kid, he can handle all of the pressure that he’s going to be under, and all the scrutiny that he already has.”

Wilson will likely serve as the Seahawks’ third quarterback behind Matt Flynn and Tarvaris Jackson this year, but if Carroll is right, Wilson has what it takes to become a starter in Seattle.


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I can't find the link, but I distinctly remember Pete Carroll saying after the draft "there are two players we would have been absolutely sick over missing out on... Irvin and Russell Wilson."

Everyone knew he could play, they were just worried about his height.




He was further along than most rookies his rookie year. He had experience with the WCO at two different schools with different terminologies and... oh yeah... we were allegedly running a WCO here at the time. Instead we drafted the damn idiot juggs machine. In the first round, no less. That smarmy turd Holmgren grinning like he pulled one over on the rest of the league. What a smug tool.