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Dear City council of Munich,

I am writing this letter to bring to your attention something that I and many Muslims believe is unfair and requires attention.

I would like to inform you that the Oktoberfest is an Intolerant and Anti-Islamic event. We tried to ignore the event, but there too many Un-Islamic acts done at the Oktoberfest. Such as alcohol consumption, public nudity etc.

We understand that the Oktoberfest is a yearly German tradition, but we, Muslims, can not tolerate this Un-Islamic event, because it offends us and all Muslims on the earth.

We are requesting the immediate cancellation of the upcoming Oktoberfest event.

We also believe that the Oktoberfest might also offend all the Muslim refugees coming from Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan. The cancellation of the Oktoberfest event will help refugees not to forget their Islamic history. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

Morad Almuradi

So, thousands of muslims fleeing their own countries want another country to change to suit them. I wonder how long before they'll have to flee that country too. It's should be obvious by now that there is a huge problem with the way most of them view islam.

It's one guy, who wrote a letter on a petition website and, as of now, has a whopping 484 supporters and the petition is closed...

Nothing to see here.

You wish-this is exactly how these guys operate. One guy starts and it piles on from there.
Aren't there communities here that are pushing for Sharia to be accepted?
I don't know how Germans serve beer but I'd be keeping a very close eye on all the kegs this year.
One of two of them just might blow up.

Nothing to see here, yet. That will come when they start teaching school in 20-30 different languages like they do in this country. Why would these people flee their own countries to go somewhere else and make it like the former homeland? You'd think they were leaving because of how screwed up things were. Do they want the rest of the world as screwed up as their former homes?

Bigger news is Germany killed the train's movement and setup border controls for the high number Muslim refugees coming from Austria... they're saying "no more!"

Personally I'm waiting for muslims to target Mardi Gras.

They have accepted the most. But I think bigger news was Angela Merkel telling that 13 year old that "Politics are difficult." when explaining why she needed to deport the girl and her family.

And tailgating.

I think they could use a good tailgate party... maybe down a cold one... sneak away and spark one up and maybe have their women show some skin... you know a forehead or a shin.... might do them a world of good... or the world a world of good.

their arses seem so tight they must crap 12 gauge wire

There's a petition on change.org calling for the Browns to bring back "The next coming of Calvin Johnson", Terelle Pryor. Six supporters, still open.

Exactly. I never see Erik making a post every time somebody in Texas starts a petition to secede for the United States. Cherry picking at its finest.

7 Supporters now heh

Also this looks ridiculously fake....

For example, why wouldn't it be written in German? Or Arabic? Instead it is written in American English that nobody involved in the situation actually speaks.

I honestly don't know if it's real or not. I posted it because it seems typical.

Just like I never see you posting on black on black crime.

Typical of what? Your broader experience with Syrian refuges? Or typical of what people get angry about on Breitbart?

It seems anything but typical from what some seem to indicate on this board with regularity.

Here is a religious person using peaceful protest via a petition to state their beliefs.

It seems in this example, there is no violence, no breaking of the law involved in sharing their thoughts and beliefs on an issue.

I'm fairly sure the border guards in Hungary would disagree with you on the 'no violence' bit right now. I'm sure a lot of people in France would too. But, that is not the point.

If you are a refugee traveling to another country because your country is so messed up, why would you ask them to conform to you? Shouldn't you integrate into their culture?

No, I mean my broader experience of reading about muslims. Even Farrakhan has sent his people to destroy liquor stores because they find alcohol offensive. You have read about muslims setting up 'sharia zones' in London and surrounding areas?

Arguably the funniest thing I've ever read on this site.

Quite alright. I find most of yours to be inane and lacking in any substance or thought.

Those Muslims will stop at nothing to ruin us!

Better than being filled with dramatic irony and thinly veiled racism, sexism, basic xenophobia and lies

I will grant you that the mass exodus of refugees from Syria and other Muslim nations that are flocking to Europe and other places is extremely troubling. It is a topic worth discussing, just not sure this petition is the best instrument to start that discussion.

What is equally troubling to me is that some of the richest Muslim nations (like Saudi Arabia), which has the ability to help many of these refugees, have offered to do exactly NOTHING to help their "brothers"....

I think it is a valid point that if you are leaving a country due to persecution, horrible economy, violent dictatorship... why would you go to a new country and try to implement the same policies you just left, perfectly valid point. By the same token, if I'm Muslim, I'm looking at all of the Muslim countries doing NOTHING to help me and thinking.... Yo, what's up with that Bro?

YO butthole (not what I wanted to type) If you don't like it don't go to it.

If you don't like that well you can suck....I will leave it at that.

For today, I agree, but these things have a habit of getting traction and frankly, I fear many of our spineless leaders will some day cave into things like this and many other things. Well, Spineless leaders and the "PC" Police anyway.

I can't speak for any of you but if for some reason, I find myself living in another country, I think I'd bend to their way of life rather than force them to bend to my beliefs.

I have that same fear, that in the interest of not offending anybody, we always resort to the minimum and make the masses give up what they love so a select minority doesn't have to feel bad.. I just don't think this is one of those cases.

This thread makes me miss Germany.
Oh Oktoberfest... how I miss you..

I don't think that them trying to establish their cultures is such a crazy notion. Especially since those are pretty unrelated to their cultures. It seems to me that having a violent dictatorship is a reason that they have a horrible economy and why they face persecution.

I remember hearing about a great nation made up of people who ran away from persecution and their kings to a better place. Maybe they have the right idea.

I want some lederhosen for my birthday. (Oct. 19th - still 33 shopping days left)

They only serve giant beers in Germany.

I'm tired of people taking crap like this seriously.

The holiday isn't ever gonna be threatened to stop. I've been there too, probabaly more than anybody on this board.

How come nobody overreacts like his when somebody starts a petition for Texas to secede fro, the states?

Or the petition that tried to ban skinny jeans?

Yall see "Muslim" and lose any type of rational thinking, sounding just like the guys you fear the most.

The terrorist won.

Swish you and I rarely disagree but here we do. I personally blame all Muslims for not being very vocal and denouncing the acts of terror seen almost daily now, mind you these acts are performed in the name of their religion and they show very little outrage BUT let somebody draw a caricature of their prophet 3000 miles away and they go bat crazy!

I have personally not been there so I don't have the same regard for them that you do, but I have worked with several everyday Muslims online coding and play games with them on FB; it seems obvious to me that they think very differently. Everything from praying (stopping whatever they are doing) 5 times a day, to the low value they seem to place on human life, women and children, to the intolerance of almost everything to do with western culture.

It actually gets very frustrating when working on projects with deadlines and they will just stop working sometimes for days due to religious days or events. You could compare it to Sundays or Saturdays or even weekends but they like to take those off too! Holidays might be a good comparison, but they have a lot of them.

Another issue from working with them is I often find what seems like simple concepts to me, to be an overwhelming task to explain and get them to grasp in some coding scenarios. And most of the guys I've worked with are college grads with computer degrees, but cultural differences come up in design or flow or logic and BAMMMMM it takes hours or days to make them understand what you need or they fight you on it.

So I now shy away from it all together, and I really don't think we as a people have enough common ground to peacefully (note the peacefully) coexist. I compare it to cavemen living with neanderthals. It just doesn't work well.

Not yet, they haven't.

Out of curiosity, what does your wife think about the Islamic invasion in Germany? Merkel is talking about letting 800K muslims into the country, you don't think that will change Germany? Muslims have taken over Leeds in the UK, and they run the city as a 'sharia zone'. The same thing is happening in Liverpool, Luten, Paris, and Calais. They do a 'muslim watch' in London where muslims harass native Londoners going about their day. When are they supposed to take this seriously?

While I agree that this particular petition is utterly insignificant, the threat of fundamentalist religion is always real. While people do see Muslim and freak out irrationally, to pretend that there isn't a specific threat posed by fundamentalist Muslims is disingenuous.

The threat of Muslim fundamentalist is real. I've been on record saying that.

A petition to ban Oktoberfest? Not so much. That's where the overreaction happens.

Like I told jack, Muslim fundamentalist threat is real.

A ban to end Oktoberfest is not.

By your logic, the petition to ban skinny jeans must be an assault on everything jeans.

The issue with Muslim immigration is real. If you haven't noticed, that's he only thing I side with right wingers on.

But as far as Germany goes, even my wife will tell you, that's the price of a country starting two world wars. They bring hem end because the moment they don't, everyone around the world labels them nazis. We all saw what happened the last time Germany started on abo preservation. Katja said she doesn't mind the Syrians, as most of them are Christians. The Muslims are the problem, and even then it's over exaggerated. Yes, they cause problems in Germany, but they cause problems at the same rate white Germans do.

England and France have it waaaayyyyyy worse. It's freaking terrible over there.

But it's funny when you think about it. I went to Paris quite a few times, and it's eriely similar to America.

French people segregated Muslims into ghettos, and are now pissed that Muslims aren't liking their living conditions and are fighting the system.

Sounds real familiar, don't it.

The french "segregated" the muslims? Or did the muslims segregate themselves into neighborhoods?

I see what you are getting at in a roundabout way. But, I don't buy it.

Of course you don't. You never understand anything outside your perfect box.


A lot of them were segregated into neighborhoods where they're pretty much away from the popular eye. A typical tourist would never know about the areas.

So I don't care if you don't buy it. You never been exposed to something like this, I'd never expect you to get it anyway. There's very few on this board I expect to get it.

Sorry I'm not as enlightened as you, bud.

Who segregated them? The french? Or themselves?