DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Everything Else... Muslim teen Ahmed Mohamed creates clock, shows teachers, gets arrested

But Clem, that one chain email showed me an image of him dressed in traditional islamic garb!!!

Don't challenge my xenophobia.

Don't worry.... xenophobia is impervious to reason, logic, sarcasm and satire.

It's "intelligent thought's kryptonite."


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Trust.

Oh, I forgot the purple in my post.

Don't worry, purple is for beginners! (just funnin' with ya clem)

I was joking too.

Obama is not a Muslim.

His daddy, maybe.

A link the libs won't believe is actual news

In very short order, the family was under management by the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), an organization established – ironically, in a federal prosecution conducted in nearby Richardson, Texas – to be a Muslim Brotherhood-associated fundraising and political warfare arm for the designated terrorist group, Hamas. Ahmed lawyered up and he and his family were no-shows for scheduled meetings with school officials and with the police chief and Irving Mayor Beth Van Duyne.

In fact, at the very hour the latter meeting was supposed to occur, the Mohameds and their Islamic supremacist handlers were instead holding a press conference. In the course of the presser, the family made clear that their beef wasn’t with the Irving school district or the police. It was with the city’s political leadership, starting with Mayor Van Duyne.

That message has subsequently become a staple of the Islamists. For example, local news on September 18th featured a quote from one, Khalid Hamadeh of the Islamic Association of North Texas, decrying “political leaders espousing inflammatory anti-Muslim rhetoric and creating a climate of fear.”

...but....but...they brought food to the reporters!

In an age where we have kids getting suspended from school for bringing butter knives or toy guns to class, this kid gets a tour of MIT and an audience with El Presidente`. What a screwed up world we live in, huh?

I don't really care who published the article, this is the brief bio of one of the people questioning the clock...

Clinton Richard Dawkins /ˈdɔːkɨnz/, FRS, FRSL (born 26 March 1941) is a British ethologist, evolutionary biologist,[4] and writer. He is an emeritus fellow of New College, Oxford,[5] and was the University of Oxford's Professor for Public Understanding of Science from 1995 until 2008.[6]

If you actually look into the story..

The kids dad claims to be a sort of Imam / religious leader locally..but even in the local muslim community no one really knows who he is. He sounds a bit nuts and grandiose.

The kid was accused of being a bomb maker and other slurs when he was younger and was upset by this.

The kid did this one day after 9/11. He showed it to his engineering teacher who basically said "don't show this to anyone else".

The kid put cables on the outside of the box rather than use the latch so it would be "less suspicious looking". He was aware it could be interpreted as looking like a bomb...and then made it look more like a bomb.

He expressed a desire to "impress" his new english teacher.

The "bomb" was only found to be suspicious when the alarm on the clock went off in the middle of class. He has to plug it in for it to work and had previously set the time on the alarm to go off during that class.

Creating hoax bombs falls under terrorism laws.

So here are the things at play here:

The kids dad likely put him up to it and the household is a bit crazy.
The kid was resentful of being called a bombmaker in the past.
Schools are notoriously bad about these things regardless of race, see white kids being arrested for making poptart guns and writing stories about shooting dinosaurs.

Really weirdly...the stories that get attention about race.. the person is often quite guilty of doing some weird stuff. Very legitimate cases don't become news stories for whatever reason. We seem to latch onto the somewhat more reasonable cases and ignore the treatment of legitimate innocent people. Be skeptical of the big stories, but don't ignore America having some legitimate problems around race.

You forgot his invitations to visit Google and Facebook...

I would pose a hypothetical....

You are sitting on a plane, 35,000 feet over Nebraska, headphones on, half asleep... then that cute, Erkel-lookin', little brown feller a few seats down, pulls this from his backpack, opens it up, and starts tinkering with it on his tray.... Based on this thread, many of you would comfortably go back to sleep.... Right?

**Disclaimer... no chance in hell he gets that through TSA without a big uproar, but let's play the hypothetical anyway...

Do you really think the TSA would even notice he has it?

Would I be uncomfortable? yes. I will never argue that the teacher and school were incorrect to express concern.

What i will argue is they, and the police, handled everything else about as poorly as they could.

Contrary to what some on here say, I know I am not a Racist or Islamophobe but I must admit I have found that I have some Racist and Islamophobe hairs on the back of my neck.

Seems whenever I am seated on the plane and watching my fellow passengers board, when a young male Muslim comes walking down the isle, those hairs start to twitch and stand up a mite.

Perhaps I should have them shaved. Perhaps my eyes blinded.

You could get a liberal lobotomy.

A hypothetical that literally bars realism. I think I'll pass.

I'm trying to understand your logic here. He didn't bring in a knife (dangerous or not) or a gun (toy or not).

He made a clock.

This kid is obviously very science-smart and when you add in the obscene amount of publicity this is getting, everyone (especially those in high office or the science community) is going to chime in.

It's no surprise he's hearing from all sorts of people who want to cash in on this PR. I think in this day in age of social media and electronic information, NOT having a public opinion is frowned upon.

THAT's what is actually messed up.

So in the hypothetical, would you alert the crew? Do you think they would land the plane? remove the object from the boy?

Even one of your High Priest of Liberalism\Progressivism Bill Mahr thinks that you defenders of this are full of it..........just saying

j\c DC

Bill Maher is a neoliberal though and can be ignored

So did this become a liberal/conservative issue because of Obama or because the kid's a Muslim?

Read the story again. This kid didn't make a clock. He dismantled an old clock and put it in a briefcase. How does that make him 'science smart'?

touché

Briefcase, small pencil pouch. Same thing.

Seeing as size mattered to the kid that got suspended for this gun, I don't see why this muslim kid is getting special treatment.


Another link liberals will complain about

Pretty sure him getting interrogated by the police for a few hours over a clock is hardly special treatment. I was just pointing out your lie.

Pretty sure him getting to go to the White House, Google, Facebook, being offered an MIT education, and being treated like some kind of a hero on the internet.... IS special treatment.

What lie?

That a pencil case is not a brief case. This isn't Pulp Fiction. It's high school.


Pencil box.



Briefcase.

I think this is more on people righting a wrong than "special treatment".

I'll take one of THOSE briefcases please.

I think we need to identify those who felt everything went exactly as it should have.

Those that think there should have been cause for concern, but that concern should have quickly been dispelled once a halfway knowledgeable person looked at it. I'm in this group

And those that thing absolutely nothing should have ever happened other than the teacher give the boy a D- for Plagiarism.

I am also in this group fwiw.

This isn't righting a wrong, this is kiss-ass pandering.... righting a wrong is a sincere apology and a free NASA T-shirt.. not a trip to the White House...

It just falls in line with the Pope visit... think if the most important Imam in the world was coming to visit that Obama would invite a dozen gay and abortion rights activist Muslims and a handful of pig farmers? Yea, I think not.

Depends if David Cameron will be there.

*I agree that this situation has gone overboard, but I'm not cynical enough to say, "MIT, NASA, Google, et al., stop using your excessive money to make a kid's day!" I don't think what they're doing is right, but I also don't think it's wrong.

I still find this amusing.

If they really thought it was a bomb, why didn't they evacuate the school?

If they didn't really believe it was a bomb, why cuff the student and question him?

You can't have it both ways. One way or the other, mistakes were made.

Mistakes were made... but it is possible that they thought it was a hoax bomb, not intended to hurt anybody but intended to scare and cause chaos...

This one surprised me. Even Bill Maher on Ahmed Mohamed Incident:, 'It Looked Exactly Like a Bomb...'

A typical colorful Maher discussion. NSFW