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Legally or did he come through Mexico?

He came through Cuba but not in a boat!

Guess what! He's wearing White!

The Pontiff, The Bishop of Rome, The Pontiflex Maximus, The Prince of the Apostles, Vicar of Jesus Christ, The Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, The Head Coach of the Vatican Cardinals.

I guess the Primate of Italy believes in evolution instead of creation ...

You forgot "The Master of Disaster". "The King of Sting", "The Dancing Destroyer", "The Prince of Punch", and "The Count of Monte Fisto". Oh wait those are saved for the next Black Pope

The Pope just addressed the crowd in English. (Trump was behind it I think)

I think he said, "Heaving Heavy Body".

Perhaps it was "Evening Everybody".

The Pope has been here one day and he already found Jimmy Hoffa?

You are on a roll today.

In a large population, mutations level out and have a limited opportunity to proceed through subsequent generations. This results in evolutionary stability. To use your example, if you have a population of millions of animals, that mutation would just get squashed by the interbreeding of all of the other animals without the mutation. Yet if you isolate an animal population that carries that mutation, it has a much higher chance of propagation.



Based on the questions I've seen in this (and other threads we've had discussions on re: evolution) you seem far less interested in actually learning about evolution and are instead demanding others prove it to you. Within this mindset you will be unlikely to be swayed, because you have already made up your mind. I feel like we've had this conversation about the mutations before, so I'm not sure if you are just repeating anti-evolution rhetoric or just deciding to ignore my (and others) comments on the subject matter. I'm all for doubt and questions and having a discussion, I just feel like we're going in a circle...

Circular again, I've brought up dozens of transitional species before in response to your questions...

It's just getting old because I feel like YTown is just repeating the same questions over and over and not getting it. So perhaps I'm the stupid one thinking he wants to have a conversation about it, and instead just keeps repeating the same argument no matter the thread.

9 Scientific Facts Prove the "Theory of Evolution" is False

http://humansarefree.com/2013/12/9-scienctific-facts-prove-theory-of.html

Evolutionist fail to admit that no species has ever been proven to have evolved in any way. Evolution is simply pie-in-the-sky conjecture without scientific proof. If natural selection were true, Eskimos would have fur to keep warm, but they don't. They are just as hairless as everyone else.

Ahh the Darwin Eye reading, misquoted for what, the 3rd time on this forum (albeit by link in this one).

Scientific Fact No. 1 - Birds Prove Natural Selection is Naturally Wrong - This makes an incorrect assumption in the first dang paragraph. Not all mutations are "superior." Some are benign or even inferior...

Scientific Fact No. 2 - Species Without a Link Prove Evolution Theory is Wrong - Assumes evolution is evenly gradual when it's not.

Scientific Fact No. 3 - Missing Inferior Evolutionary Branches - Not only is this wrong but can be observed on your own body right now. If humans were meant to be perfect bipedal creatures out the gate, why is our spine cantilevered like a four legged animal, instead of centered in the rib cage? This flaw is why so many people suffer from back pain...

Scientific Fact No. 4 - Single Cell Complexity Proves Evolution is Wrong - This question moves the goalposts by using scientific knowledge from over a century ago to prove their viewpoint. Scientists today observe, understand and appreciate the complexity of single cell organisms and how it pertains to genetic mutation.

Scientific Fact No. 5 - Human Egg and Sperm Prove Evolution is Wrong - Evolutionists also agree on this point, that environmental changes during a creatures life doesn't bring in changes in the offspring. Not sure what the smoking gun is here

Scientific Fact No. 6 - DNA Error Checking Proves Evolution is Wrong - Assumes DNA error checking is foolproof. DNA error checking can fail and has been observed.

Scientific Fact No. 7 - Chaos From Organization Proves Evolution is Wrong - Assumes earth is a closed system.

Scientific Fact No. 8 - Chromosome Count Proves Evolution is Wrong - Assumes species of differing Chromosomes can never mate. Species have been observed to mate with animals of differing chromosomes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep%E2%80%93goat_hybrid

Scientific Fact No. 9 - Origin of Matter and Stars Proves Evolution is Wrong - Not related to evolution because evolution as a system regards living organisms, not matter.

It's easy to `disprove` something when you make false assumptions.

Actually the Pope called and asked me to post this in order to
keep you busy and out of his thread for a while.

Let me translate that into dumb redneckaneze for all my hillbilly brothers and sisters.

Not ah youz wrong.

Using science to disprove science. ....Priceless

Do you think those who are skeptical of Theories which are pushed as truth do not believe in the value of true science?

Perhaps you are only trolling again.

I find it interesting to think those Americans watching the Mass on tv are for the first time seeing how the Catholics do it. Cool.

First they start with alter boys...

Is that Ted Cruz on the drums?

All science is at the core really is observation and experimentation. We observe phenomena and then conduct experiments intended to help describe or interpret how that phenomena works. The big problem is we have a large number of scientifically-illiterate adults in this country and they are using non-scientific techniques in order to dissuade others to ideology, not scientific discovery. It is entirely healthy to be skeptical of scientific experiments. But scientific experiments by themselves don't exist to be debunked. They get debunked by other experiments. Experiments that describe the phenomena better. Experiments that account for more variables. Claiming evolution is wrong because it "violates the second law of thermodynamics" is not science, it's pushing an agenda.

Is evolution completely true? I don't believe it is. And what I mean by that is, while I think the evidence definitely supports evolution as a system of life, I don't think every piece of evolution is "correct." To use an example to illustrate my last paragraph, many early scientists in the field of evolution theorized that we transmitted environmental information from our own lives as mutations to our offspring. Once we discovered chromosomes though and did more observation into other fields such as genetics, we essentially debunked that idea as false. Did it disprove evolution? Not at all. But since science at its core is us trying to understand the universe, it is fair that humans sometimes don't account for all the hypothesis' that arrive. Isaac Newton didn't account for relativity with his laws of motion, but it doesn't mean his laws are wrong. Just not as correct

We may hoot and holler and talk this and that about religion or God or Christianity because well, it's a message board and it's easy to do that. But in the real world I don't really mind one way or another if someone is religious. Most of my family is, including my wife. But what I do mind is people who want to prove something false just because a preacher told them it is so, and then claiming that is science. It is not. Conduct an experiment based on whatever religious text you choose. What evidence is there of the immense power of God? I think theories like the Big Bang support Genesis, not debunk it. I think evolution is at it's core such an elegant system of life that it wouldn't surprise me if God created that system. And in the Bible God says we are to see God through his works and his creation. If we observe systems of evolution or the big bang or that the earth is billions of years old, why should that disprove God? Anyone is free to disagree on these points, but in the realm of science, you do not get to say you disagree and leave it at that. You must provide your own evidence (through experimentation) to disprove prior findings. That is the only way you can scientifically disprove things like evolution, the big bang, planetary mechanics, etc.

There will be severe consequences if we dismiss scientific theory and endeavors in the name of expediency or dogma. The real cost of that is in the most effective driver of economic growth humanity has ever seen: innovation in science and technology. We can (and should!) be able to disagree on things, but if we can't resolve those disagreements in a testable and repeatable fashion, it will severely hamper future discovery.

There you go sweet talking me again

trying to listen to the pope right now is freaking painful. John Kerry sitting there with the most confused look on his face like "wtf is he saying"

i love the effort though. a lot of people in congress has no idea what he's saying, and neither do I. but hey, i'm still grateful he came and is addressing congress.

wow, the people absolutely was on point with his speech. talked so much about lincoln and MLK, about equality and social justice, about how they inspired the entire world to dream.

absolutely loved it.

I can't get everything he said. It wasn't very clear. I tried very hard to pay attention but it was difficult.

English isn't exactly his first language ... or second ... or third ...

quote by swish above:

"trying to listen to the pope right now is freaking painful."

Boy, no kiddin'.

His presentation to Congress was meaningless to me. I had to concentrate on what he was saying - not his message.

That was a huge missed opportunity to reach many important Americans. And that fake clapping by the attendees after every few statements was too much.

Too bad.

I could understand every single word he said. The problem is a lot of people in congress have NO IDEA what the american people are saying.

They hear, and they understand. The problem is that they just don't care.

There is much to be admired about this Pope but watching the political theater surrounding him has been quite entertaining..

Those on the right who have been fighting for decades for religious influence in our laws are now distancing themselves from the Pope because they don't like his message on certain issues...

Those on the left who have fought for decades to ensure that there is absolutely NO religious influence in our laws and policies are now saying we should do more on global warming... because the Pope says so.

How quickly our tactics change when our allies change...

ain't it the truth?

I have never been shy about the fact that I have major disagreements with the Catholic Church on a number of subjects, and firmly believe that many are completely contrary to the teachings of the Bible, and Jesus Christ.

However, I do agree with you that it has been great political theater.

Ah all this Pope talk reminds me of the time I won the find the Pope in the pizza contest that Father Guido Sarducci put on years ago.

https://vimeo.com/59509411