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"Cleveland, where you can go, get paid, and nothing is expected of you! Easy money, baby!" - Dwayne Bowe and Justin Gilbert Add in Pettine, Farmer, Haslam, Mingo, etc. etc. etc Not many football players on this team. But we do have a great punter.
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I bet Manziel is like, "Man, wish I had a guy like Cooper to throw too."
Flip is like, "Man, I wish I had a guy like Cooper to scheme with."
Pettine, "Dang, I need a WR!"
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Where's EO? He still thinks he is god on football and thinks this team is LOADED with talent! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Anyone still think McCown is better than Manziel? At least I can blame lack of experience with JM...crap, JM could just as easily missed all those throws and just as high!
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One day, the Browns will be the odd man out and have to play in London. Then the WORLD will see our shame. Ouch.
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the OL apologist will be coming out the woodwork in the postgame comments.
So with the mingo apoligist(looking at you, 15)
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Why do we always give up an easy TD before the half?????
It's like freaking groundhogs day with this team!
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Why the hell aren't they taking a knee? we don't know how to do that
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Not starting Johnny took this team's momentum from last week completely away ... JMHO  You got that right!
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Anyone still think McCown is better than Manziel? No, it was an obvious terrible decision by Pettine to switch back to McCown at the time and now we're seeing the results. It was a typical 'Play Like a Brown' move.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Johnny will come out and start this half. We are destined to play follow the bouncing QB this season....
I hate that.
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Can we petition to have the Browns added to the SEC? .... never mind..... we'd get crushed against top college teams too...
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Our Defensive Scheme's are crap. You cannot have a LB checking a Wr on the goal line. He is not even trying to play multiple coverages. And on Offense, no weapons = no score. And how about out o-line.
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Where's EO? He still thinks he is god on football and thinks this team is LOADED with talent! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL With week 1 disaster and now this...I can't even speak to the talent level - although last week we looked OK...2/3 games so far scream preparation issues and lack of execution and discipline...that is all on the coaching staff to get what talent they do have ready! While we don't have stud talent - we have talent - good lord - can we just put a game plan together that makes sense?
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I just am so disappointed in how poorly coached we are.
When an end of half TD with two minutes left is a given even from 80 yards away, that's a coaching issue.
Other than running a soft camp, what exactly did we work on?
Serious question. Did we spend extra time on the running game? Looks like we didn't spend any time on it.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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the OL apologist will be coming out the woodwork in the postgame comments.
So with the mingo apoligist(looking at you, 15) From me last week: I've always held the opinion that Mingo wasn't bad, that he just did different things than people expected. I always thought he would continue to develop and become a more well-rounded player. After two games he looks the same. Mingo is a useful player to have on the team (so is Johnson Bademosi). As of right now I wish he could do more. Sixth overall picks, that are outside linebackers, need to contribute more than being good in coverage.
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Johnny will come out and start this half. We are destined to play follow the bouncing QB this season....
I hate that. You really think that's gonna happen? I certainly hope so, but I don't know.
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Watching this just gets me so PO'd about the '14 draft,
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Our Defensive Scheme's are crap. You cannot have a LB checking a Wr on the goal line. He is not even trying to play multiple coverages. And on Offense, no weapons = no score. And how about out o-line. That says a lot about Gilbert. We have a linebacker on a receiver instead of our first round pick.
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Who do people consider our "best" players? Mack, Haden, Bitonio, Thomas?
I don't see one "good" NFL player in this game
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Anyone still think McCown is better than Manziel? No, it was an obvious terrible decision by Pettine to switch back to McCown at the time and now we're seeing the results. It was a typical 'Play Like a Brown' move. The bigger risk would be if Josh blows up his start and then you put in JM and he stinks it up...Pet keeps saying Josh is the man and JM is not...if JM starts the second half..your integrity as a coach is now in question..IMO
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WR's score RB's score TE's score Kickers score That's about it. Occasionally another position will score but it's unusual. QB's are the position that get the ball TO these three scoring positions. So until we increase our talent at QB, WR, RB and TE we will lose. The NFL is set up to play offense now. There was a time that WR's FEARED going over the middle. Now corners fear hitting them.... you get big fines for that.
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Are you all kidding!! Like Johnny football is apart of the o-line problems! Like Johnny football is making DBs play man-to-man all the time. No!!.. This has more to do with crap O-line play and crappier Defense with NO pressure on the QB!
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Anyone still think McCown is better than Manziel? No, it was an obvious terrible decision by Pettine to switch back to McCown at the time and now we're seeing the results. It was a typical 'Play Like a Brown' move. The bigger risk would be if Josh blows up his start and then you put in JM and he stinks it up...Pet keeps saying Josh is the man and JM is not...if JM starts the second half..your integrity as a coach is now in question..IMO If McCown didn't have that last drive I think he would have been pulled.
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it's been that way for what? 5+ years now?
and we still havent learned that the QB might actually need talent to throw to?
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I just am so disappointed in how poorly coached we are.
When an end of half TD with two minutes left is a given even from 80 yards away, that's a coaching issue.
Other than running a soft camp, what exactly did we work on?
Serious question. Did we spend extra time on the running game? Looks like we didn't spend any time on it. And don't let Farmer off the hook. I feel like an idiot defending him before the season. Watching Carr, Cooper and Mack tear us up makes me sick knowing we could have and should have had them all. I want Farmer fired today.
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We have been horrible. And to make things worse, McCown hasn't thrown his signature back breaking INT yet.
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Anyone still think McCown is better than Manziel? No, it was an obvious terrible decision by Pettine to switch back to McCown at the time and now we're seeing the results. It was a typical 'Play Like a Brown' move. The bigger risk would be if Josh blows up his start and then you put in JM and he stinks it up...Pet keeps saying Josh is the man and JM is not...if JM starts the second half..your integrity as a coach is now in question..IMO If you don't win some games this year that integrity means squat. Pettine is on the hot seat. This was supposed to be a win for us. Raiders at home..... Games like this cost HC's jobs
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Why do we have to be the training ground for all the new OC's and DC's coming into the NFL?
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Why do we have to be the traing ground for all the new OC's and DC's coming into the NFL? Yeah. Like Norv Turner and Kyle Shanahan!
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I just am so disappointed in how poorly coached we are.
When an end of half TD with two minutes left is a given even from 80 yards away, that's a coaching issue.
Other than running a soft camp, what exactly did we work on?
Serious question. Did we spend extra time on the running game? Looks like we didn't spend any time on it. I am in awe of the play..and not in a good way...to your serious question - Exactly - what in the world are we doing in practice...you cannot be this bad !
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That was because our D- Coord did not adjust to what was going on!! We needed to put an extra DB in.
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yay mccown is coming back on the field.
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If they come back onto the field with Josh McCown in the 2nd half I may just throw up. Did you make it to the bathroom?
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Anyone still think McCown is better than Manziel? No, it was an obvious terrible decision by Pettine to switch back to McCown at the time and now we're seeing the results. It was a typical 'Play Like a Brown' move. The bigger risk would be if Josh blows up his start and then you put in JM and he stinks it up...Pet keeps saying Josh is the man and JM is not...if JM starts the second half..your integrity as a coach is now in question..IMO If you don't win some games this year that integrity means squat. Pettine is on the hot seat. This was supposed to be a win for us. Raiders at home..... Games like this cost HC's jobs HC and OC? How about DC?
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I was afraid that our running game left with Shanahan. I've seen RB's leave his system and fail horribly elsewhere. Redskins run game isn't what it was under him either.... Seamed reasonable to assume our running game would suffer as well.
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