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You forgot the part about him using the note to clean up after his dog before dropping it.

I think Farmer is enjoying a vacation. Most of his work was already done and he left a guy he could trust in place. I think everyone is really over thinking things. I am willing to bet he left a long list of possible trade or signings he would approve of. It's not like he can't cut anyone we sign when he gets back anyways.

just weird that it could not wait until he came back. isnt like we did not have the guy under contract for 660.000 untill the end of the year.

what was the hurry all of the sudden?

There probably wasn't any hurry. The process probably began a while ago, and I'd expect that Farmer and Kuharich had meetings on several subjects well in advance of him taking his leave as part of a standard turnover.


Then again, maybe the hurry is that Kuharich is doing these moves all on his own and wants to show that he's capable of handling the job himself, and perhaps the Browns don't need Farmer. It certainly wouldn't be the first power move in this organization, if that were to be the case.

are you saying in the 3 weeks he has been here and not throw a pass he has impressed everyone enough to earn a new contract?

Nope. You're trying to say that.
I'm saying that he got a new contract, and the talks on it have likely been in progress for a while because things like this aren't done on a whim or spur-of-the-moment.

I don't know. I once bought a waffle maker on the spur-of-the-moment.

Jimmie, Jimmie, Jimmie
We all know that Farmer should have been behind the backup QB signing and if that is the case, the suspension was violated. Now the league will ask if you knew about this signing. Or have you already paid off and terminated Farmer and began a search for leadership? Your fans have many, many questions Jimmie, and no one to answer them, sad.

He probably owed Farmer money and before Farmer gets the axe he wanted to make sure he'd get his cash from our deadbeat 3rd stringer.

/purple

j/c:

ESPN is reporting that guaranteed dollars = $600,000 plus a $500,000 signing bonus.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13776281/austin-davis-signs-2-year-extension-cleveland-browns

Question: Can the signing bonus be a part of the guaranteed money?

ok call it 4 weeks. we sure were not talking to hem while he was with the rams.

The Browns first signed Davis, 26, as a free agent Sept. 7 when Johnny Manziel was suffering from tendinitis in his throwing elbow. He had been released by the Rams on Sept. 5.

The breakdown is here: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/austin-davis/

Basically, he gets a base salary of $1.35M in 2016 and $1.7M in 2017.
There's 3 of the 4.1 million. Add half million signing, and his 2015 salary increases from $660k to $800k and we're pretty much there.

I think that accounts for all of it.
It looks like perhaps only the signing bonus plus another $100k (the bump in salary this year, perhaps?) is guaranteed. That or there is a roster bonus in there somewhere.


Either way, it seems like big money for a 3rd string, but perhaps this is looking ahead to the next two years where they perhaps are thinking Manziel will start and McCown will be winding down his time here. It is also a contract that lets us cut him with little to no penalty, so there's that little benefit.


As for getting a new deal so soon - I would not be surprised if the initial contract was just to get him in here fast with the knowledge up front that they'd immediately begin to work a longer term deal. With how quickly he was signed here after being released, that makes sense to me.

Yes, it is.

maybe. but looks like a goofy way of doing things. jmo.

Cleveland Browns sign QB Austin Davis to 2-year extension worth $4.173 million

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns have had their eye on quarterback Austin Davis since last year, and now they have him wrapped up through 2017.

They signed him to a two-year extension Wednesday worth $4.173 million, including a $500,000 guarantee, a league source told Northeast Ohio Media Group.

The extension was first reported by ESPN's Field Yates.

The Browns first signed Davis, 26, as a free agent Sept. 7 when Johnny Manziel was suffering from tendinitis in his throwing elbow. He had been released by the Rams on Sept. 5.

"I'm not going to speak specifically on contract issues,'' said Pettine, referring to the fact the team hasn't announced it yet. "But Austin, as I've been very clear with here, is a guy that we liked. A lot of times those windows will open up, sometimes at the request of the agent, and if the two sides are in agreement that there's a window of opportunity to get something done, then you move forward and get it done.

"But the specifics of it, I won't get into. I just know that he's a player that we like his skill set, we like his mentality, we like his competitiveness, how he approaches football and felt that it would be a win for us to get him signed to a longer-term contract."

Pettine was asked about the Browns extending Davis with general manager Ray Farmer still on suspension.

"We have (an acting) GM in Bill Kuharich who's in his place who can make those decisions. We have guys, Sashi Brown, Chris Cooper, they can work the contracts. We just don't lock the office door to the GM and don't do anything GM related."

A fourth-year pro, Davis has been inactive the first three games, but the Browns believe he has starting potential.

Last year, after injuries to Sam Bradford and Shaun Hill, Davis was pressed into service as the Rams' starter. In eight starts, he went 3-5, throwing 12 touchdown passes and nine interceptions en route to a 85.1 rating.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/09/cleveland_browns_sign_qb_austi.html#incart_river

Cheers... some of this contract numbers, verbiage and so forth just confuses the "F" outta me sometimes.

I agree, seems a bit high now when the numbers are all laid out in front.

Cool. Thanks for the info.

Sorry Connor Shaw.

i liked the guy but was never going to be a starting QB.

Can't believe he didn't say: we like that he plays like a Brown in addition to all the other clichés.




This is not a healthy environment. It's not public right now, but I bet it will become public before the start of next year.

That was my initial reaction. I guess to fuel old flames, with
Romo out, maybe Jones has a interest in Manziel?

What ? they aren't happy with the other Browns rnd 1 pick at 22.. they want our other rnd 1 pick at 22...

The thought of it makes me laugh... Not at what you said Peen... just the thought of the Cowboys having 2 of the Browns #1 QB's on their roster at the same time.

Just talking out loud.


I think it is as simple as we like the kid and want to keep him a few years.

Davis is a good player to have on the roster when you know your QB is definitely gone at the end of the 2016 season (and possibly earlier than that).

Absolutely. They tried to trade for him before they settled for McClown. Just the timing is funny.

never even heard of him before this thread so could care less. his contract is cheap and a non issue to me. I honestly don't see what the fuss is all about. Him and shaw can fight it out next season.

It's the Browns. People's antennae are always up for weird activity.

[quote =Razorthorns]never even heard of him before this thread so could care less. his contract is cheap and a non issue to me. I honestly don't see what the fuss is all about. Him and shaw can fight it out next season. [/quote]

Well you will find out when he is starting in 2 weeks

His stats in St. Louis weren't horrible, but had too many pick sixes. I see him at worst backing up JFF next season. Or perhaps this one.

He's a better backup than Connor Shaw, that's all I think this amounts to.

what do you see at best then?

j/c

I saw Davis play and find interesting Browns rate this kid highly. Davis has potential similar to Matt Hasselbeck. IF Manziel doesn't work, I see Davis with Colt McCoy like qualities with average NFL QB measurements. Therefore, I don't see as negative definitely a step up from Shaw. In my opinion, I give two thumbs up!

Potential similar to Matt Hasselbeck now or prime Matt Hasselbeck? If the latter, then he needs to be starting immediately.

Yes, I'd say Hasselbeck's beginning stages. I would not take this signing lightly. As Manziel, I see potential. Surprised Rams parted.

The contract was part of his agreement to get him to sign with us.

The lunatics are running the asylum.

There is zero reason Manziel shouldn't be starting. Zero. The NFL is a training ground for raw QBs. Every single team in the league recognizes this. They know they have to take their lumps for the long-term benefit of the team. Everyone is grooming their QBs of the future while the Browns are screwing around wasting time. Starting McCown thinking they are going to make the playoffs. It's almost like a bad comedy.

I am so disgusted at the moment. I am amazed at how incompetent Pettine appears this year. I am baffled. He may be in way over his head even more than Shurmer. Shurmer was an awful coach, but I never got the feeling he was a moron possessing very little intelligence.

I have a feeling Haslam is going to have to choose between Pettine and Manziel by the end of the year.

That's weird. That was the exact feeling I had about Shurmur for his entire tenure with the team.

That is weird.

All the fuss? What fuss?

I don't think the Browns were stupid to sign Davis to an extension. I don't think that his signing means we are going to trade Manziel or cut McCown.

What I do find odd is that we are making moves like this while our GM is suspended.

There are probably more explanations and I would love to hear them, but I think the timing of this signing, as well as Pryor being cut, have two plausible [not possible, but plausible] explanations:

1. Farmer is disobeying league rules and is working during his suspension. Some have explained [and they could very well be right] that the NFL will look the other way. If Farmer is indeed still working, it tells me that he did not learn a damn thing from the texting fiasco and that he still will interfere when he should not be interfering. And Lord, if does get caught........I really don't want to see another headline of a Brown's employee being nailed for misconduct.

2. Pet said that there are other people in the building who can handle the GM's responsibilities. This troubles me. The suspension was only for four weeks, right? Isn't this the fourth week? I'm asking...not telling. Was it really an emergency signing? Did we really HAVE to have this guy signed RIGHT NOW? If I were Farmer, I might be a bit miffed that these moves were taking place while I was out of the office and perplexed by Pet's comments about there are other capable guys in the building.

Once again, either way you look at it.....it probably is not going to end well. I am not saying it was a bad move to give Davis the extension [I really don't know much about the guy.] What I am saying is that timing of this move tells me things are not right in Berea-----again.

I think #1 has a low plausibility.

#2 is certainly interesting. With the amount of activity that's gone on since Farmer went on suspension, it's almost as if Pett and Bill couldn't wait to get Farmer out the door to get down to work.