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Just thinking out loud here and, was wondering what RAC's thoughts might be on this subject. You can pretty well write Dorsey off unless he's built himself up over the off-season. So it might come down to Anderson being let go if we decide we need that other valuable roster spot and go with only 2 QBs.

My personal feeling is that at least this year we should keep 3 QBs just in case of injury; because maybe the new OL has not had enough time to become that cohesive unit in providing top protection for our QB.?

Right now our depth chart at QB should show:

Charlie > Quinn > Anderson > Dorsey.

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i'm thinking anderson and Frye will compete for a spot and one will be traded, leaving Dorsey as our 3rd QB. (I think Anderson will be the odd man out for sure and hopefully he'll get us a 5th or 6th)

I get the feeling and have heard that Dorsey has intangibles that improve our team. Call me crazy, but i have a hard time believing we're getting rid of Dorsey. While he isn't as good as Anderson or Frye, he'll definitely still be here.


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I definetly agree that Dorsey will still be here. From what Ive heard hes a film geek and that could help tremendously with our young QB.

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I think #9's the odd man out, to be honest.

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I think #9's the odd man out, to be honest.




Why I can't fathom YOU thinking that?


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uhh, always 3 QB's, you never, ever put the team in jeopardy with only 2 QB's. I think Dorsey (film geek supposedly) and Frye stay, and Anderson is the odd man out. Now if Dorsey is not really the film geek then he will be the odd man out and Anderson will remain our 3rd QB.

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i'm thinking anderson and Frye will compete for a spot and one will be traded, leaving Dorsey as our 3rd QB. (I think Anderson will be the odd man out for sure and hopefully he'll get us a 5th or 6th)

I get the feeling and have heard that Dorsey has intangibles that improve our team. Call me crazy, but i have a hard time believing we're getting rid of Dorsey. While he isn't as good as Anderson or Frye, he'll definitely still be here.




If you think we could get any more than Ken Griffey's jockstrap for Anderson, you are crazy! I'm not trying to jump on you specifically but Anderson might have the size and arm strength but he has the decision-making ability of a blind man out there. That is just my opinion of him...on to your question...

we will keep three on our roster for sure. Is it Anderson or Dorsey?


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I'm surprised how many so far want to keep Dorsey. The kid stinks... who cares if he watches a lot of film. ALL of our QBs should be watching a lot of film. Keep the best 3 (which means dump Dorsey).

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We will keep three and like many have said its between Frye or Anderson on who goes. The question is to what approach do they take this. I think if you keep Frye you are more likely to have a QB controversy since he was the starter here the longest. However if Quinn plays crappy or gets hurt, he has the most starter experience. Anderson I believe is the more true back-up. I dont see too many calling for Anderson if Quinn struggles. Again this is all just worthless speculation that will get sorted out once training camp starts.

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2 QB's is not a good idea....

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IMO there is NEVER a question you keep less than 3.

No coach in American can give me any good reason why you shouldn't keep 3 on the active roster.

If they keep pressing, it tells me they are stupid and shouldn't be a head coach.

If you can't find a way to field a decent team without keeping 3 qbs, you are a poor coach.


And I will add this.....Dorsey is the PERFECT 3rd qb.....you couldn't ask for a better guy. He is tailor made for a 3rd qb...smart, and doesn't really hold much hope of playing....I would sign that guy to a 5 year deal...all guaranteed.


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Didn't Butch Davis opt not to keep a 3rd QB at one point?


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Didn't Butch Davis opt not to keep a 3rd QB at one point?




And you need more proof that only having two QBs on the roster is a bad idea?


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No way you go with less than 3. BTW, watching film = jack if you can't play and win. You go with the BPA.

Well, can't you in theory keep 2 active and 1 on the PS?


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When you have 3 QB's that are all very talented in there own ways you should keep all of them on the roster. Charlie still has a ton of potential, Derrek Anderson has a rocket for an arm. Brady is the least unproven of all since he hasn't taken one snap in an NFL game but he has a lot of the same qualities as Charlie only he's more of a pocket passer with less arm then Anderson.

It's way to early to throw the towel in on either Charlie or Anderson but I really think Charlie will amaze all of his doubters with a better O-line and a running game to support him. Last season was a bad season for him but it's unfair to judge his potential based on last year because he pretty much had to do it all by himself and asking a 1st year starter to carry a whole team is a monumental task that very few in the history of the NFL have been able to do and also change offensive coaching midway through the season, injuries ect. how can anybody close the door on him.

Sure Brady wasn't drafted to sit on the bench but I know Phil and the Coaches aren't done with Frye yet, I think they drafted Brady as an insurance policy in case Frye shows no improvement then they have somebody else that can step in and possibly take over the starting role.

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Keeping less than 3 is suicide. I think we go Frye, Quinn and Dorsey, with Dorsey only making it because he's about the closest thing to a mentor we have on this team. DA has no use to us at this point.


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From what I can see and tell, Dorsey is the odd man out. Think about this, we were pretty much down to him for our last game, a meaningless game against the Texans (unless you count draft position) and we still ran Frye out there even though he wasn't 100% and played like it.

The depth chart will probably read (This year only)
1. Frye (unless he really tanks it in camp or when the season starts)
2. Quinn (unless he proves he's ready now) 3. Anderson (Irreguardless)

Given how young we are at the position it makes sense to go with 3. Dorsey will be cut by the end of the preseason.

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I want ONE of these to be an effective vet on field game day. Why we kep a steaming pile of unproven Qubee flesh with nothing to develop em OR help em in-game is a huge oversight. Fish em all for about anything IMO and flush at least two
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I think we should keep 16 on the roster, gives a better chance to find a decent one, and 1 for each game after getting beaten to a pulp


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We will never THINK of going with 2 QBs until we put a couple of seasons together where we actually have NOT a ONE QB go down and out for games!

Its not even in our thoughts.

Think about it...go through our seasons - we are like the Blue Cross Blue Shield of QBs in the NFL

Now with Steinbach and Joe Thomas...we have moved in the right direction.

But we can't ASSume our QBs will be clean from here on forward...we have to actually experience it!

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It's way to early to throw the towel in on either Charlie or Anderson but I really think Charlie will amaze all of his doubters with a better O-line and a running game to support him.




Most around the league don't share your opinion.

On Cnnsi.com, Pearlman ranked Frye as the 32nd best QB in the league.

Then, by another author in another article, they talk about which QB situations bare watching. Here's what he said about Frye:

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Cleveland -- The Browns showed great faith in Charlie Frye at this point last year, awarding him the starting job based on his five-game stint as the No. 1 passer in his rookie season of 2005. They wisely decided to not make that mistake again.

Frye isn't without his strengths, but after recording a 72.8 passer rating as a rookie, and 72.0 last year, what conclusion could be reached other than he's an average quarterback at best? Frye will be the guy who gets to start the season, but when the inevitable failure arrives, it'll be Quinn to the rescue. And we don't expect that point in the season to occur much past early October.






I hold out hope that Frye can keep his ratings in the 80's and keep the job, but we need to face facts: Chuck is a dead man walking.

He's mobile and shows great escapability, but outside of that, there isn't much to get excited about.


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You might want to add Steiner in there as a franchise type of OL who can play any position on the OL......that is an even more rarer commodity. JMHO

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These hacks don't know what they are talking about... It is the O-Lines fault that Frye sucks...

With that said... BQ, get into camp on time!

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Out of the 4 QBs, Quinn and Anderson have similar styles of play...pocket passers. Frye and Dorsey are more of the roll out/mobile QBs. Quinn is definately the future, and Frye is a dead man walking, so I wouldn't put it past the FO to get rid of Frye and Dorsey, keep Anderson for # 2, and use Cribbs as an emergency # 3.


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The way we go through QBS I think having only to would be a huge mistake. I don't see why so many have love for Anderson. He played one good half and now he is better than Frye? He may have all the physical tools but there is a reason he dropped to the sixth round and was put on the Ravens practice squad. He is not very good. Frye will remain the number two QB unless somebody offers us something for him which I believe is very doubtful.


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