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Some are. I also have co-workers that aren't any better at their job now than they were 5 years ago.



When see other teams blow things up and start winning within a year or two, it makes people wonder what we are doing wrong.

After 3-4 years, we should see improvement in the win column. We don't. How much longer to keep someone who doesn't show improvement?

Wagner, love watching this dude play!

Stafford's arm shows up even on simple throws. Peyton Manning said that Stafford had the best arm of any QB that has ever been a a counselor at his camp (that is pretty much every good college QB from the past decade).

Wow, they lost in Browns like fashion...

Did anyone know that rule? I agree w/Steve Young when he said that we've seen numerous punters kick or knock the ball out of bounds.

Ahhhh.......I see....I think...LOL

It's a safety if the offensive team does it. But, did you see Steve Young's face when it was explained? LMAO....that is exactly my reaction.

Well, obviously the refs blew the call..........but, I think that is a pretty stupid rule. Glad it wasn't called.

The rule is in place for a reason. Even if it is a "stupid rule," it is still a rule.

It seems like a stupid rules to me.

I also would like to see everything reviewable in the final 2 minutes. Maybe give each coach one special challenge that can only be used in the final 2 minutes.

Although, if they did that, it would bite us the 1st game after it was enacted.

Yes. He would yell "OOOOOOOOOOOOH" before the other guy could describe what was happening. It was hard to listen to.

Seahawks vs Lions: Pretty good game. Megatron sure blew that one. I felt bad for them, the Lions played some good D and sacked Wilson quite a few times.

Regardless, Wilson is a pleasure to watch play.

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The refs screwed up:

'Chancellor, Seattle Seahawks edge Detroit Lions amid controversy'

http://news.yahoo.com/seattle-seahawks-chancellor-holds-off-detroit-lions-052254465--nfl.html

Oops! I just saw everyone was already discussing this up ^there.^ My bad.

tab and YTown: I agree w/you guys.

I think my biggest issue is that there are too many rules. Think about all the guys who played or coached in the NFL that were calling--and commenting--on the game. Not one of them were aware of the rule.

Too many rules can be counterproductive. Rules should be made to help the game and should be easily learned and followed. In my classroom, I generally have 3-5 rules and I let the kids construct them. Rules should not be in place to punish--or get--offenders. Instead, they are there to assist the process. Making a bunch of obscure rules to the point that no one even knows them is not productive.

And here is what is really crazy. The official had a perfect look at it and he deems that it was inadvertent touching. LOL.........that was not inadvertent. Thus, we end up w/a scenario where a player illegally bats the ball out of the end zone, and almost everyone was not cognizant of the rule, but the official who did see the rule violation, decides not to enforce it.

Brilliant!

Sucks to be a lions fan with that controversial call. Ouch...

Definitely... They hung in there the whole game too. Shoulda had it.

Ultimately, get the call right. Change this rule to immediately be reviewable (the NHL would do that), remove the rule altogether, or enact some way to challenge a non-reviewable call.

And yes, Vers is right, there are too many rules. It's the reason why I thoroughly enjoy watching soccer now. The game starts and they just play. Almost no commercials, no replay, and only a few basic rules. It's refreshing.

All valid points.
I'd counter with this li'l bit of logic:

In all this time, continuity is the one, the ONLY thing that has never been tried here.

Hey! Why not let's try that? It's so crazy, it just might work....

When we finally get to 3-4 years, maybe we will. It's the beginning of Year 2. I know it feels like longer, but it's not.

The average life expectancy for Head Coaches in Cleveland is 2.6 years. That is insane.

We previously had Belichick for 5 years. He only had one winning season.

Every Browns HC who was given 5 years made it to the playoffs.

That was the old Browns, and weren't they saying that that team was likely to go to the Super Bowl or make the play offs at least before the move was announced?

You're right, all 5 of them.

Butch Davis and Romeo had 4 years, I don't recall much improvement with them in the end. They each put up a winning season, but fell apart after that.

But everything he learned from that 5 years made him what he because in New England.

A cheater?

I got mad when I heard about the end of the Lions game only because you KNOW they would nail the Browns on anything like that if we did it.