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young guy.. give him time. Crazy to me how there is no patience anymore with players to actually learn the game.

But when he's also showing that he can't or won't learn, then you worry...

It's weird. During the off-season, it looked like Gilbert was the one who was turning over the new leaf, and Manziel was the lost cause. Gilbert was so focused on getting better and stronger. Now it looks like it's totally flipped. Crazy.

That holds true..... for later round projects. Not top 10 picks.

So, because the article wasn't written today or yesterday, it is irrelevant? Even though it contains several direct quotes from the Pet and O'Neil?

Amazing how low some of you will stoop to defend your guy.

This guy is a total MORON. He can't get out of his own way, now the road rage crap. Put him on IR and open up a roster spot.

Browns' Justin Gilbert involved in road rage crash

BRUNSWICK, Ohio -- Cleveland Browns cornerback Justin Gilbert crashed his car Friday in Brunswick following a road rage incident that wove through several communities.

Gilbert, who was uninjured in the crash, drove his Dodge Challenger into a drainage ditch on West 130th Street in Brunswick Friday afternoon while trying to get away from a man who had been trailing his car, Brunswick police Sgt. Robert Safran said.

The incident originated on Interstate 71 southbound in Middleburg Heights, Safran said. Brunswick police received a call from the Ohio State Highway Patrol saying that the two cars involved, Gilbert's Challenger and a 55-year-old Parma man's Ford Mustang, were speeding down the highway toward Brunswick.

Brunswick police received several other 911 calls from passersby, including the driver of the Mustang.

The Mustang's driver told police that Gilbert had cut him off, and the two men had exchanged words and gestures. The man decided to trail Gilbert after their altercation, Safran said.

The Mustang followed Gilbert at a high speed on the highway until they exited in Brunswick, Safran said. The men drove briefly into Hinckley Township before entering Brunswick again.

Gilbert was attempting to turn into a driveway when he crashed into the ditch, Safran said. The Mustang's driver, who was also uninjured, remained at the crash site until Brunswick police arrived.

Gilbert was cited for driving with a lack of reasonable control and given a ticket, Safran said. The Parma man was also cited for disorderly conduct.

Gilbert has had a rough start to his career in Cleveland since the Browns made him their #1 draft pick in 2014.

Gilbert has failed to live up to expectations on the field.

The Browns open their season on the road Sunday against the New York Jets.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/09/browns_justin_gilbert_involved.html

Man if only he was drafted in the 5th or later rounds, no one simply would care.

This guy is a nuclear explosion of pathetic.

Ohhh, to be a fly on the wall when we interview our prospects. Assuming we do that.

Million dollar talent, .10 cent head

According to NewsNet5.com's Alyssa Pasicznyk and Dena Greer, Gilbert crashed following an altercation with the driver of a Ford Mustang in Brunswick, Ohio.

Per Greer and Pasicznyk, Brunswick police said the episode ensued as the result of "one driver cutting off the other." Gilbert also allegedly "threw tobacco juice" on the Mustang during an exchange that resulted in both men giving each other the middle finger.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/25653...ls-and-reaction

yuck!!!!!

Gilbert just isnt good enough to continue to be a pain in the ass. I Hate saying it because no one wants to waste a first especially after having to cut bait with a 3rd rounder we traded up for but I think you atleast need to put it in the discussion of trade or release. I probably wouldnt cut him over this but I would have the talk. this is it, your last chance. You either nut up and grow up or you can pack your bags.

One point that I thought was rather funny.

He's driving a Charger? I mean, I can buy one of those if I wanted to.

Not like Gordon's Camo Bentley or Hadens Lime Green Lambo.... (Hadens' earned it however)

Rather conservative in that regard.

What's really sad is that that's about the only smart thing I've seen or heard that he's done.

http://www.wkyc.com/story/sports/nfl/browns/2015/09/11/justin-gilbert-road-rage/72119526/

I decided to go back and look at some college tape of Gilbert and noticed he does the same thing then that he does now. Plays 10 yards off his man, occasionally lets receivers run by him for no reason, can't tackle worth a crap and is easily blocked. In fact alot of his picks were from poorly thrown balls that should have been TD's because he was beaten. I really starting to wonder what Farmer saw in this guy, he's horrible in space, his technique stinks and he takes poor angles, tackling and breaking up passes. I'm no expert but I worried that alot of these flaws are instincts and can't be taught.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tti8GfSxunE

A Dodge Challenger is my favorite vehicle. At least he has good taste, but with the kind of coin he makes, he's very cheap...

Just what a douche...

Been telling people this shortly after we drafted him....He is a Justin Miller clone, exception Justin Miller went to the probowl one year for his return skills, however was a bust as a corner

Those look like Georgia plates on the car. Wonder why. Born and raised in Texas, college in Oklahoma.

hes inactive today.what a start to a breakout season!!!!

+1

Gilbert is not good enough to get much sympathy.

and your not good enough at trolling to get away with it. I call you out on it 26 days ago and poof you disappear only to return when we lose.

Justin Gilbert's kickoff returns spark talk of putting the ball in his hands more

Gilbert a go-go: Ever since training camp, when coaches finally gave Justin Gilbert some reps as a kickoff returner, the second-year cornerback looked much more natural running with the ball than backpedaling into coverage at his natural position.

In San Diego last week, Gilbert reinforced that opinion with kickoff returns of 35, 37 and 38 yards.

Now there is talk of Gilbert –haven’t we suggested this before? – getting some reps on offense.

“That’s definitely something we’ve talked about and are going to explore,” said offensive coordinator John DeFilippo.

Such talk should be tempered, however. Constant discussion of a so-called “Johnny Package” to get quarterback Johnny Manziel on the field seems more aimed at occupying defensive coordinators’ attention during the practice week than actually being used in a game.

Coach Mike Pettine said that there have been occasions in practice “with numbers and injuries, we’ve had to throw (Gilbert) on offense at wide receiver and he doesn’t look out of place.”

However …

“Just given the depth we have at that position now – you add (running back) Duke Johnson, who has wideout type ability, you have (tight end Rob) Housler, who has wideout type ability in certain situations, it’s hard to justify it.

“But he’s certainly shown the ability. When he’s got the ball in his hands, he can do something with it.”

More likely than a pure wideout position, Gilbert probably would fit into a Percy Harvin-type role lining up in the backfield or the slot and receiving quick pitches, handoffs on ends-around and screen passes. But all of that seems like an experiment for another training camp (see: Terrelle Pryor).

In the meantime, special teams coordinator Chris Tabor said Gilbert “is going to be our guy back there” at kickoff returner.

Gilbert’s productive day on special teams in San Diego included a key block on Travis Benjamin’s 31-yard punt return and a tackle on a San Diego kickoff return.

At least there is something positive to report about Gilbert lately.

http://www.espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=50451

Nothing like reading how your former first round pick might switch positions -- like some poorly scouted 6th round pick, that these stories are usually written about -- to make your day.

No kidding.

If there is any consolation prize, it's the fact that coaches are trying to take advantage of his athleticism on the field. Who knows, being the KR and using him more on offense may build confidence, something seemingly at the forefront of his problems.

I would work him at PR as well. At this point it doesn't look like he is going to be a plus corner as was projected. Might as well get some spark from the guy. If he can flip a field or two a game, at least we have something of value.

No offense, but I wouldn't. I think that's cemented for Benjamin.

I'm hoping he makes it is a wide receiver just so we have a wide receiver wearing a weird number.

Better corner: RGIII or Justin Gilbert?

Yeah, it's like a kick in the nuts.

At least he's been in the league several years. . .

Yeah, I have the same mixed feelings. I mean, it's great to actually have a positive article about the guy, finally. Maybe I'm reading into it, but I imagined Pettine saying those things quoted without even an ounce of excitement. His first round corner, the guy he probably jockeyed for in that draft, is essentially a waste of space that he has to figure out how to keep busy in practice. Ugh

Tester: "Is the glass half-empty or half-full?"
Browns Fan: "Depends. What's in it?"
Tester: "Cool, fresh Artesian spring water."
Browns Fan: "Oh... then it's half-empty. That's probably all you could get."

Tester: "Is the glass half-empty or half-full?"
Browns Fan: "Depends. What's in it?"
Tester: "Cat urine and dog feces, in a nicely blended slurry..."
Browns Fan: "Oh... then it's half full. When will the rest be delivered?"

It's good to hear that...lets not chase out a talent that if a coach like Belichek would get a hold on would turn him into a top notch player maybe.

This is where the young player young coaches have to learn and grow together.. If it gets figured out it may be a good payoff for this team.

If they're actually given the time to do so, I believe you to be right.

I have zero problem with them trying him at wideout or H-back. He looked awesome on those returns.

Seriously, why not? He obviously sucks at corner but he can run and has good ball skills - according to Mayock right after we drafted JG. He'd be wearing cliff branch's # so that's cool too.

'Is Justin Gilbert’s next move to offense?'

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/10/08/is-justin-gilberts-next-move-to-offense/?ref=yfp

Posted by Zac Jackson on October 8, 2015, 1:17 PM EDT

Browns cornerback Justin Gilbert was the first draft pick of the Ray Farmer/Mike Pettine regime. That often gets lost as 14 picks later, the Browns selected a much higher-profile player, Johnny Manziel.

Gilbert has been lost in the shuffle since.

He’s been in Pettine’s doghouse both last season and this season, and even though he returned an interception of Andrew Luck for a touchdown last December, his on-field success has been limited. This season, he’s barely been on the field at all except to return kickoffs. Still, the Browns aren’t giving up on Gilbert because of their investment in him — and because he’s big and fast and has tools the team thought it could develop when it drafted him.

Gilbert seems to be a natural with the ball in his hands, and that prompted a reporter to ask Pettine Thursday if the team has considered moving Gilbert to the offensive side of the ball. Pettine said the Browns have used Gilbert as a receiver at times in practice because of a shortage of available players.

“And he doesn’t look out of place,” Pettine said.

Pettine was just answering a question, so there may be nothing deeper here. Or, maybe it’s worth a shot because the Browns aren’t using him on defense and are still searching for answers at receiver with the Dwayne Bowe Experiment yielding nothing and the Terrelle Pryor Experiment having been ended last month.

Later Thursday, Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo said moving Gilbert to receiver is something he and Pettine “have talked about and are going to explore.”

Gilbert suffered a hip pointer in August during a joint practice with the Bills that lingered into September. He debuted in Week 3 vs. the Raiders, playing two special teams snaps and none on defense, and with the Browns short on cornerbacks last week in San Diego the coaches chose Johnson Bademosi, generally a special teams player, to play in nickel and dime defenses over Gilbert. Pettine wasn’t happy with Gilbert following a road rage incident in September for which he was cited but not arrested.

Last February, Farmer said Gilbert was dealing with a “very personal” issue that compounded his struggles as a rookie. The Browns have time to still get return on their investment, and Gilbert has time to rebound, too. But the question of whether it’s worth trying a position change, even on a part-time basis, to jumpstart what’s been a disappointing career is a valid one.