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Rather than argue politics, guns, or the Middle East, here's something we could possibly all agree on.

Anyone think public "Popcorn! Popcorn! Get Your Popcorn Here!" outdoor firing squads is too "over the top" for these dirtbags?

Or should we "rehabilitate" them? saywhat

Just sayin. tongue

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NEW YORK (PIX11) β€” Hundreds of children who were being sexually exploited have been rescued from their "nightmare" as part of a week-long, nationwide operation meant to "end the scourage" of sex trafficking in the U.S., according to the FBI.

More than 150 pimps were arrested in the sting, the agency said. The children -- 149 in all -- were plucked from hotels, casinos and truck stops, among other locations, federal officials said. The youngest was 12 years old.

Investigators said they tracked down some of the culprits by scouring ads posted on Backpage.com then setting up meetings -- recorded by hidden cameras -- between the pimps, children and undercover agents.

"When kids are treated as a commodity in seedy hotels and on dark roadsides, we must rescue them from their nightmare and severely punish those responsible for that horror," FBI director James Comey said in a statement. "We simply must continue to work with our partners to end the scourge of sex trafficking in our country."

Investigators said they tracked down some of the culprits by scouring ads posted on Backpage.com then setting up meetings recorded by hidden camera.
Executed in 135 cities and involving more than 500 law enforcement officials, the sting has been dubbed Operation Cross Country and is part of the FBI's Innocence Lost National Initiative.

This is the ninth operation of its kind, the agency said. The first one was carried out in 2003. To date it has identified and recovered about 4,800 sexually exploited children and led to the convictions of more than 2,000 pimps and others associated with trafficking crimes, according to the FBI.

After the children are found, crisis intervention specialists are provided for them as well as "resources for basic needs such as food, clothing, shelter, and medical attention," the FBI said.





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They deserve a trial, we should allot 20 minutes for that.. then move forward with your plan. I wouldn't want to deny them their rights, we need to be better than that.


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Just my opinion, of course, but, at the bottom of the rung would be rapists, and below them would be those that sexually abuse children. The pimps, the people that pay for sex with kids.

My mom has a first cousin down in the Atlanta area that works with a group trying to rescue prostitutes, but with a focus on kids. To hear some of the stories he tells would flat out curl your nose hair and make you almost sick to your stomach at the same time. I won't go into detail, but "baldies" (male or female) are in high demand, and consequently, kids are searched for, taken, drugged, and used.

I know it's not up to me to decide the punishment for the offenders, and that's probably a good thing.

I know a little bit about what rape and especially childhood sexual abuse can and will do to a person. (no, it wasn't me. People I know. Trust me, I'm strong enough in who I am that if it had been me, I'd say so)

Child sexual abuse is just sickening, and the people that use it, and especially the people that steal kids to supply it, deserve something worse than death. Just my thoughts.

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12 years old? Wow that's very sad. Way too young for such treatment and etc.

150 "pimps", AKA, 150 people that needs to be convicted, legally executed and immediately...

If they happened to be put in jail with their crimes made down to the general population, that too would fit the bill. I don't see them surviving too awful long before someone is trying to stick a plastic toothbrush in their throats...

I hope there is a certain, dark, hideous and gloomy place in Hell for these individuals when their time comes.

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Dear God, and how many are still out there?

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I've always thought that pedophiles should be tracked with a number on a tombstone. The sentencing should be changed to make pedophilia a capital offense, and the death sentence should be applied liberally.


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Originally Posted By: TTTDawg

Anyone think public "Popcorn! Popcorn! Get Your Popcorn Here!" outdoor firing squads is too "over the top" for these dirtbags?



Draw and quartering works for me.

Possibly tie them up and place them on railroad tracks.


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Just my opinion, of course, but, at the bottom of the rung would be rapists, and below them would be those that sexually abuse children. The pimps, the people that pay for sex with kids.

My mom has a first cousin down in the Atlanta area that works with a group trying to rescue prostitutes, but with a focus on kids. To hear some of the stories he tells would flat out curl your nose hair and make you almost sick to your stomach at the same time. I won't go into detail, but "baldies" (male or female) are in high demand, and consequently, kids are searched for, taken, drugged, and used.

I know it's not up to me to decide the punishment for the offenders, and that's probably a good thing.

I know a little bit about what rape and especially childhood sexual abuse can and will do to a person. (no, it wasn't me. People I know. Trust me, I'm strong enough in who I am that if it had been me, I'd say so)

Child sexual abuse is just sickening, and the people that use it, and especially the people that steal kids to supply it, deserve something worse than death. Just my thoughts.


Sadly, I/we grow up thinking it is isolated incidents. Doesn't happen here. Can't. 4800 children rescued since 2003? What percentage of the total kids being taken advantage of is that? Did they rescue all the Kids since 2003. Is that 50% and 4800 others continued being trafficed? Is 4800 only 1% and there was/is 480,000 kids being trafficed? Prob not. To me it's just mind boggling that it's to the degree it is, whatever that degree is.

I, just like many, whenever hearing of this, always felt bad for the kids but then time fades till the next time I heard it, etc, etc, etc. Now, with Grandchildren at 2(boy) and 4(girl), it just hits me a bit harder.

How is it this rampant but a secret to so many? How?

Sorry, but it just P's me off that so many "HAVE TO KNOW ABOUT THIS" but the right people don't.

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I think (think) Toledo Ohio is in the top 5 for kidnapped kids/child sexual abuse stealing kids places in the country. If memory serves me, it's #2.



Kids get stolen at the mall, and bam, never heard from again. Shipped off to where ever to "service" sick ass adults, and make money for the pimps.

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bring back public lynchings.

there's no room in the world for pedophiles., or anybody who does sick crap to kids.

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I believe this is the first thread I have seen posted on this board in a long time that everybody is going to agree on.


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wow, this just makes me feel so sad. not even angry. these kids will have to live with this the rest of their lives. no punishment can help them. just devastating.

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wow, this just makes me feel so sad. not even angry. these kids will have to live with this the rest of their lives. no punishment can help them. just devastating.


You are right. No punishment will help the kids. They will have to live with it for the rest of their lives. Hopefully, they can find a way to deal with the violence and abuse thrust upon them.

Setting the pimps and johns as examples might help, albeit a little bit. A long prison sentence would be good. I'm all for second chances.....but in situations like this, not so much. I struggle here, but I just can't feel sorry for the pimps and anything or everything that may happen to them. God forgive me.

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I agree on the 20 minute trial, and the drawing and quartering. Very slowly with a very dull knife.

What is odd to me is 150 pimps but only 149 kids. I can't imagine that there's a 1:1 ratio, and it makes me wonder how many more poor kids are out there.

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There is easily over 100,000 children being abused this way. Most of them are illegally here brought over from Russia and China. Some are tricked into coming here by fake adoptions, fake jobs, or punishment from family debts to criminal elements.

Many are set up in houses with better security than many banks. Let me put it this way. It is SO common that if you see outside cameras set up in the projects it is mostly likely related to human trafficking, especially if it's in the worst part of town the cops like to avoid.

Personally, I would have these people publicly castrated and left to bleed to death along with any pedophiles or serial rapists. I'll happily volunteer my services to see the punishment carried out too. If it's a woman doing it then behead her publically. I'll volunteer for that one too.

Anyone touching these innocent children needs to die a very horrible and slow death.

Right now you might get a few years, some mental health reviews, and then your probably out on parole after a few years. It's disgusting.


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Feed these people to sharks.


Won't work. Even sharks have standards.


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I think the jail time with the general population well aware of their crimes thing works best. I'm sure those guys will make them regret their conduct for quite a while before carrying out their 'sentence'.


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Originally Posted By: clevesteve
wow, this just makes me feel so sad. not even angry. these kids will have to live with this the rest of their lives. no punishment can help them. just devastating.


Yeah, I can agree with that. Society has a responsibility for making sure that the .... people ..... who did this are never allowed to interact with children and society ever again. I really struggle with seeing this kind of thing without wanting to really go over the top to places that the Good Lord would not want me to go. I have had some ideas about punishment go through my head that make drawing and quartering look tame by comparison. I have to trust that God will punish those who die in their sins .....but man, it is hard to look at stuff like this and stand by and wait for that to happen.

I pray that the children can find peace in knowing that those who took them are under arrest, and can take comfort from the fact that those who forced them into this life will (hopefully) never get out of prison. I pray that God will give them peace in their hearts, and comfort them as they heal from this horror.


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Sad story.

Even more sad, is that their are customers who made that a viable business.

If there is a customer base, someone will provide the product.


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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
I think (think) Toledo Ohio is in the top 5 for kidnapped kids/child sexual abuse stealing kids places in the country. If memory serves me, it's #2.



Kids get stolen at the mall, and bam, never heard from again. Shipped off to where ever to "service" sick ass adults, and make money for the pimps.


That's awful...just awful. I can't imagine a worse feeling than your kid being taken from you. Almost makes me sick.

I've heard that about Toledo as well. It's a good "transit" city that has 2 major highways (3 if you count the turnpike separately) and is within a good distance of a lot of very large cities. So, I've heard it's a "hub" so to speak. Makes me ill.


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Arch sup with your city dude.


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Not my city (assuming you're talking Toledo, right?). I'm about 45 miles away.

Don't want the city problems here, either. Some people gripe about small town America. I don't. Although, we're seeing more and more crime here as well recently.

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Sad story.

Even more sad, is that their are customers who made that a viable business.

If there is a customer base, someone will provide the product.


Exactly what I was thinking. It's bad enough for some pimp to sell out a 12 year old, but who the hell is the CUSTOMER wanting to do that?

WTF is wrong with people?

There is a dark underground sub-culture in this country where there is no sense of right or wrong.


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I think the jail time with the general population well aware of their crimes thing works best. I'm sure those guys will make them regret their conduct for quite a while before carrying out their 'sentence'.


I agree. A girl I knew and was very fond of when I was still in high school was raped and murdered when she was 15. The guy went to Allen County Jail and hung himself after 8 years. I'm sure being a child rapist and murder made his life a living heck. At least one could hope so.


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Dear God, and how many are still out there?


More than folks like you or I would ever want to guess, probably.

These are the dank corners of human pathology that I just cannot grasp. I'm glad I don't.

Every time I encounter a story like this, it makes me a little more tired of daily life. [no 'red-flag alert' here, please] It's soul-draining to get a steady diet of stories like these.

Sometimes, I need to take some time off. I just unplug from the rest of humanity and lose myself in beautiful music for a week. Crank up the stereo in my darkened room, and do it 'Old School.' Read a good piece of escapist lit. It's like a good detox.

I know that The World is still out there, and heinous subhumans are doing heinous things 24/7, but I willfully CHOOSE to not be touched by it or them. For two days. For one week. For one hour.

Maybe that's what my retirement years will be like: simply retreat into beauty, and leave the rest of this crap to y'all. Die with a smile on my face and a song under my fingers.

Yeah... I could totally see myself doing that.


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I agree on the 20 minute trial, and the drawing and quartering. Very slowly with a very dull knife.


drawn and quartered: an 13th c. form of punishment in England for the crime of treason. The convict is 'drawn' (dragged behind a horse) to the place of execution. 'Quartering' involves tying each of the convict's limbs to 4 horses, which are then spurred in 4 opposite directions.

A dull knife would be a bit more merciful, I'd think....


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Thanks. Apparently I was thinking of quartering more like one would quarter a chicken. Ya learn something new every day... I like the idea of the horses, but really fat and slow horses and take their sweet time ripping their limbs from their body.

I'm sure I'll need to have to explain that one to my maker one day.

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I try very hard to NOT take myself there, clwb419.

It's a very dark mind set that never, EVER leads me to any place good.

My God wouldn't want His child to dwell in that space.


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You hear about this sort of thing all the time. The government busts some child porn ring and it has cops, politicians, religious leaders, fathers of children, the whole spectrum of society involved. There are sick twisted people out there and they look just like everyone else, it's impossible to know who is involved in this until someone kicks over a rock and they come crawling out. I fear the world my grandchildren are living in.


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Originally Posted By: clwb419
I agree on the 20 minute trial, and the drawing and quartering. Very slowly with a very dull knife.

What is odd to me is 150 pimps but only 149 kids. I can't imagine that there's a 1:1 ratio, and it makes me wonder how many more poor kids are out there.



What often happens is that these pimps run more than one girl, most of them are of age. Mixed in there are one or two underage kids.

We're starting to see an uptick in these things because for the longest time prostitution in general has not been a priority for enforcement. Things like Craigslist and Backpage (online in general) is where the bulk of your prostitution goes through and setting up stings can be tricky because you start to walk the fine line of entrapment. Because it hasn't been much of a priority, many gangs are now running prostitution rings to supplement their drug income. Its cheaper and the economics work out a little better sometimes for the smaller gangs


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I agree on the 20 minute trial, and the drawing and quartering. Very slowly with a very dull knife.


drawn and quartered: an 13th c. form of punishment in England for the crime of treason. The convict is 'drawn' (dragged behind a horse) to the place of execution. 'Quartering' involves tying each of the convict's limbs to 4 horses, which are then spurred in 4 opposite directions.

A dull knife would be a bit more merciful, I'd think....


They don't deserve any kind of mercy at ALL


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