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BEREA, Ohio -- Browns linebacker Barkevious Mingo, who played only four snaps last week in Baltimore, said he hasn't considered asking to be traded -- yet.
"I don't think it's there yet, but I'm a team player and I'm here to do whatever I can do to help the team win,'' he said Thursday. "That is the role I'm playing right now."
Mingo, the No. 6 overall pick in 2013, has played sparingly this season. He played 13 snaps in the openers against the Jets, and then 21, 23 and 18 before last week's plummet to 4.
Asked by NEOMG what it would take for him to want to go elsewhere, he said, "I don't know. I try to be a team player. I do what they ask me to do to the best of my ability.''
His agent, Jeff Guerriero told NEOMG: "Keke is an impact player and needs to be on the field. It's that simple.''
He said the subject of a trade has not been discussed.
The trade deadline is Nov. 3, meaning the Browns will play three more games beforehand. Mingo, who signed a four-year rookie contract worth a guaranteed $16,347,001, is signed through 2016.
But a new team would only have to pay him the remainder of his $585,000 base salary this year, which would be about $340,000 if hew were dealt at the trading deadline, and next year's base and roster bonus, which totals $2,616,137.
But Browns defensive coordinator Jim O'Neil indicated Thursday that Mingo is still very much in the Browns plans. He said he talked to Mingo this week about his lack of playing time in Baltimore and promised to rectify it.
"I have to do a better job of getting him going and getting him involved, and that's our plan moving forward,'' he said.
He attributed some of it to the fact Mingo was coming off arthroscopic knee surgery Aug. 6 to repair a torn meniscus and missed all four preseason games. Mingo returned to action Aug. 31st with about a week to prepare for the season. He also had offseason shoulder surgery to repair a torn labrum and wore a red caution through the offseason.
"It's just he had the (knee) injury so he was gone for a while,'' said O'Neil. "We had packages up for him last week. We just couldn't get to him. The way that game ended up being played in the second half, we just couldn't get to those packages. He's got a big part of our game plan this week.
"He's had a big part of our gameplan every week. You can never predict how it's going to go and what packages you're going to end up in and what down and distances you're going to end up in more."
Mingo said he was 100% healthy at the beginning of the season and ready to go.
He said O'Neil ''just let me know that he apologized for not having those packages up and the way the gameplan went out. That's just how things go."
But O'Neil didn't promise him he'll play more against the Broncos on Sunday.
"He can't make those kinds of decisions right now,'' said Mingo. "Like he said earlier, it is the way the game went. He can't predict how games go and what packages he has up until he gets into the game."
Mingo said he's "100 percent" confident he's still the pass-rusher the previous regime the drafted him to be.
Has he lost any faith in his ability in general?
"Not at all."
Linebacker Paul Kruger, who also saw a decrease in playing time last week to 24 snaps, said both he and Mingo have to roll with the punches.
"That's just a part of the business,'' Kruger said. "It really is and it's a long season, so for myself and for Mingo, we can't allow ourselves to overreact or make judgments on a week like last week because it doesn't do you any good. You just have to move forward and do what you're asked to do and do it to the best of your ability moving forward.
"So it is tough when you have a lot of pressure, a lot of expectations and not feeling like you're fulfilling those needs. It's tough as a player and as a competitive guy. So he'll be all right, though. I have no doubt. He's a workhorse, comes here every day, does what he's asked and does it full speed. So I have no doubt he'll make a nice recovery and be right where he needs to."
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it would help if he didn't suck.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Please, Mingo, ask for a trade. Make your case as public as possible. Convince someone you're a first round talent. I dare you to make someone trade their first pick for you!
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If only Dion Jordan would have fallen to us. . .
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This is hilarious. Tell your client to not suck.
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Translation: Mingo and Kruger stink against the run and our defense gave up a huge lead to start the game, to where Baltimore had almost no passing situations. That and Armonty has shown himself to be the best pass rusher on the team. That's going to eat into both Kruger and Mingos snaps. Maybe he can play some nickel LB with Robertson out and Dansby nicked up. I think he could excel there teamed up with Kirksey.
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In a redraft Mingo wouldn't even be taken in the first 2 rounds ... can anyone remember him making more than a few sporadic plays?
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Mingo cannot rush, cannot provide hardly any support in the run, under-sized, under-powered and is superb in coverage. Those ingredients equates to less playing time.
Oh, and he can't stay fully healthy either.
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Sammy Watkins is complaining about targets. Maybe we can trade Mingo for Watkins?
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It could work if Mingo's girlfriend has nice feet.
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BEREA, Ohio -- Browns linebacker Barkevious Mingo, who played only four snaps last week in Baltimore, said he hasn't considered asking to be traded -- yet.
"I don't think it's there yet, but I'm a team player and I'm here to do whatever I can do to help the team win,'' he said Thursday. "That is the role I'm playing right now."
Mingo, the No. 6 overall pick in 2013, has played sparingly this season. He played 13 snaps in the openers against the Jets, and then 21, 23 and 18 before last week's plummet to 4.
Asked by NEOMG what it would take for him to want to go elsewhere, he said, "I don't know. I try to be a team player. I do what they ask me to do to the best of my ability.''
His agent, Jeff Guerriero told NEOMG: "Keke is an impact player and needs to be on the field. It's that simple.''
He said the subject of a trade has not been discussed.
The trade deadline is Nov. 3, meaning the Browns will play three more games beforehand. Mingo, who signed a four-year rookie contract worth a guaranteed $16,347,001, is signed through 2016.
But a new team would only have to pay him the remainder of his $585,000 base salary this year, which would be about $340,000 if hew were dealt at the trading deadline, and next year's base and roster bonus, which totals $2,616,137.
But Browns defensive coordinator Jim O'Neil indicated Thursday that Mingo is still very much in the Browns plans. He said he talked to Mingo this week about his lack of playing time in Baltimore and promised to rectify it.
"I have to do a better job of getting him going and getting him involved, and that's our plan moving forward,'' he said.
He attributed some of it to the fact Mingo was coming off arthroscopic knee surgery Aug. 6 to repair a torn meniscus and missed all four preseason games. Mingo returned to action Aug. 31st with about a week to prepare for the season. He also had offseason shoulder surgery to repair a torn labrum and wore a red caution through the offseason.
"It's just he had the (knee) injury so he was gone for a while,'' said O'Neil. "We had packages up for him last week. We just couldn't get to him. The way that game ended up being played in the second half, we just couldn't get to those packages. He's got a big part of our game plan this week.
"He's had a big part of our gameplan every week. You can never predict how it's going to go and what packages you're going to end up in and what down and distances you're going to end up in more."
Mingo said he was 100% healthy at the beginning of the season and ready to go.
He said O'Neil ''just let me know that he apologized for not having those packages up and the way the gameplan went out. That's just how things go."
But O'Neil didn't promise him he'll play more against the Broncos on Sunday.
"He can't make those kinds of decisions right now,'' said Mingo. "Like he said earlier, it is the way the game went. He can't predict how games go and what packages he has up until he gets into the game."
Mingo said he's "100 percent" confident he's still the pass-rusher the previous regime the drafted him to be.
Has he lost any faith in his ability in general?
"Not at all."
Linebacker Paul Kruger, who also saw a decrease in playing time last week to 24 snaps, said both he and Mingo have to roll with the punches.
"That's just a part of the business,'' Kruger said. "It really is and it's a long season, so for myself and for Mingo, we can't allow ourselves to overreact or make judgments on a week like last week because it doesn't do you any good. You just have to move forward and do what you're asked to do and do it to the best of your ability moving forward.
"So it is tough when you have a lot of pressure, a lot of expectations and not feeling like you're fulfilling those needs. It's tough as a player and as a competitive guy. So he'll be all right, though. I have no doubt. He's a workhorse, comes here every day, does what he's asked and does it full speed. So I have no doubt he'll make a nice recovery and be right where he needs to." and the rest of the story.... With linebacker Scott Solomon being placed on injured this week with a knee injury, Mingo is likely to get more playing time. He's slated for more of the Sam 'backer role he played last season, along with Nate Orchard. Kruger and Armonty Bryant will primarily be the rush linebackers. "We will find out soon, hopefully,'' said Mingo. "We'll see how everything goes and [I hope I] get on the field and can help the team win." Mingo acknowledged that in Baltimore "I was just waiting on my name to get called and go in and help the team any way that I can. And just being ready to get in there and play some football." Did he wonder why he wasn't being used? "There are certain packages and you wait on them to get called,'' he said. "You stand beside the coaches and you wait to hear your package and you go on the field and you wait to play. You just wait until you get a chance to go out there and produce." He said he didn't ask afterward why he didn't play. "Hey, we won the game,'' he said. "Everybody was happy and everybody was having a good time. We beat Baltimore in Baltimore. That was a great team win and we did as a team." Mingo acknowledged that it's different than what he expected when he was drafted No. 6 overall out of LSU. "In college you go in until you can't go anymore, and then you rotate and you have your guys fresh,'' he said. "You keep rotating like that, which I liked, but um, it is a little different here." Kruger, who was brought in as an edge-rusher but spent the first five games filling in at Sam, said players have to produce regardless of their situations and snap counts. He has only half a sack this year after 11 last season. "It'd be nice to be able to give yourself that out, but I've played a lot of snaps this year,'' Kruger. "So my production needs to happen whether I'm out there for 20 snaps or 70 or whatever it is. I don't want to put it on the scheme or anything like that. That's not what reality is. I'm out there enough to make plays and to have more sacks and more pressure on the quarterback. "But obviously in a case like last week, that does have a big effect. You only can react to what's in front of you. If you're in there for four plays, have a hell of a down when you're in there and do your best. "And if you're in there for 20 or whatever it is, make the best of them. When I was in Baltimore, in my last year, I probably played 30 percent of the plays, but you've got to make the most of them when you're out there. So I wouldn't put the blame on anybody but the guy in the uniform." Mingo had five sacks as a rookie and only two last year when he started 11 games in his new Sam role.
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Mingo SUCKS just like this thread.
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His agent, Jeff Guerriero told NEOMG: "Keke is an impact player and needs to be on the field. It's that simple.''
He said the subject of a trade has not been discussed.
The trade deadline is Nov. 3, meaning the Browns will play three more games beforehand. Mingo, who signed a four-year rookie contract worth a guaranteed $16,347,001, is signed through 2016.
I question his desire and commitment to improve his body so he might become an impact player and as the Browns know, injury can be an issue.
Maybe he's on the trading block..or maybe the coaching staff is trying to motivate Mingo by sitting him.
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Mingo should worry more about being cut than being traded.
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I know it's fun to pile on and bag on Mingo, but does anyone have any confidence at all that O'Neil is getting the most out of theses guys and putting them in the best position to succeed?
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Find a 4-3 team that wants him and trade him, but make sure you get decent compensation.
Heck, if you can get a solid ILB/MLB for him, do it in a heartbeat.
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I know it's fun to pile on and bag on Mingo, but does anyone have any confidence at all that O'Neil is getting the most out of theses guys and putting them in the best position to succeed? I thought he did last year, for sure. We had a pretty good defense overall although the Run D struggled as always (although our entire line was injured). I don't know what is going on. I get the concern from some about Kruger playing in coverage more or losing snaps but it's not like he's exhibited the ability to get after the passer consistently this season, or for his entire career. He's had two above average seasons in the NFL. Still, we need to use him more attacking the QB. I'd like to see more of Orchard rushing the QB and I think we'll see more of that as the season wears on. I really don't know what is going on with the defense and O'Neill. As far as Mingo is concerned. He has shown nothing. I don't blame O'Neill for that one bit.
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I know it's fun to pile on and bag on Mingo, but does anyone have any confidence at all that O'Neil is getting the most out of theses guys and putting them in the best position to succeed? I think it's more that Mingo just doesn't really fit the 3-4 OLB role as well as he does the 4-3 DE role. We need a OLB that can rush, not a rusher that tries to be a OLB.
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it would help if he didn't suck. yup, play better and you get more time.
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Once Mingo gets more playing time he will become very productive and a leader on this team and Dwayne Bowe will do the same on O. Maybe this week?
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I know it's fun to pile on and bag on Mingo, but does anyone have any confidence at all that O'Neil is getting the most out of theses guys and putting them in the best position to succeed? Nope. Not a bit.
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I know it's fun to pile on and bag on Mingo, but does anyone have any confidence at all that O'Neil is getting the most out of theses guys and putting them in the best position to succeed? Not really. But Mingo can take a hike with his attitude. He has shown NOTHING on the field. Maybe when he starts producing, he can actually get on the field more. For now, shut up, work hard and start getting it done WHEN you are on the field. SMH
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Mingo has nothing to showcase to another NFL team...They guy has been in the league 3 years and still hasn't built his frame up...He is supposedly fast, yet takes many false steps and loses any speed advantage and now puts himself into a disadvantage...He has no lower strength nor upper strength and be neutralized with one arm of an OL...Gets thrown around left and right...His hand slaps and rip look like he's playing Patty cake...I don't know if he's still trying to fit into his body, but he looses his footing alot! He takes poor angles and tackling form is off at times too...
This is all he offers
-Long wirey arms
-Good high motor
I can't think of anything positive to say about him...He has made some nice special teams tackles but cmon there's UDFAs around the NFL whom do that on a weekly basis...
Problem is if your not a Browns fan and you turn on a random Browns game...You would imagine Mingo is a rookie late round project...Not a top 10 pick whom also is a 3 year NFL vet...He still plays like he is lost and overmatched
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Folks are bagging on O'Neil ( with reason ) but isn't this Pettines D ?
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There is no doubt he is extremely fast. There have been two plays now in his career where he ran from the other side of the field and tracked down a RB or WR inside the 5, saving a TD on a play he had no business being anywhere near. Just happened again I think against the Chargers.
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I think he kept one out of the end zone by running them down from behind, or was that someone else. Whomever it was covered much ground to do it.
Keep hearing he is great cover while we get no sacks and lose games. Toooo much value given to our ability to drop and chase as we play zone so badly while we get gouged on run and pass because we refuse to do either and count on ILB to do more than they have shown themselves able to do.
No press, not enough pressure, and it is defense. Get less complicated immediately.
Overthinking and underplaying on D is killing us and "No lead is Safe with This Secondary." Challenge everyone. Every down. We could use the practice.
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First off to hear this in the press after a win is bull. I wouldnt care if we cut the guy today. He is a decent 3rd down cover backer but thats it. Armonty is a better football player and should be getting 80% of the snaps. Him and his agent crying in the press is the kind of stuff that really gets under my skin. All these guys rip on the media then they feed the beast when its convenient for them. If u have a problem with playing time then talk to your coaches and take the snaps by outplaying the other guy when you get a chance.
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There is no doubt he is extremely fast. There have been two plays now in his career where he ran from the other side of the field and tracked down a RB or WR inside the 5, saving a TD on a play he had no business being anywhere near. Just happened again I think against the Chargers. Yeah he has really good speed when he chases or attacks at the correct angle...He occasionally has the ability to make a "splash" play...I think last week he had that nice batted down pass right near the end zone...Use those long arms...Wanted him to well like I wish for all of our guys...However I think his best plays pretty much came 3 years ago and he hasn't progressed to a full-time LB...I have been hard on Mingo because I always wanted him to be that dynamic freak we much needed...Unfortunately I think he is weak and clueless...His speed is a huge asset...However I find more than often his speed is negated by the fact he is lost often...(can't diagnosis and react quick enough, stumbles often, poor angle pursuit, sadly is blocked out of plays far too easily) I do love his motor and hustle skills
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First of all, the title is very misleading. Grumbling? How so?
Secondly, did anyone actually read the article? It's obvious that Mingo and his agent were being asked very direct and leading questions. I didn't see any comments from Mingo that could be misconstrued as grumbling. In fact, his comments were about whatever is best for the team.
I realize it is very popular to blame Mingo for everything that is wrong w/this defense, but the kid is a hard worker, a good citizen, and a good teammate.
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... the kid is a hard worker, a good citizen, and a good teammate. He does seem to be so. Mingo has his 2nd contract coming up in a year (?) and in order to get the bucks, he's got to showcase himself which he obviously can't do unless he is playing...
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He's been disappointing as a player. All I am saying is that the title is very misleading and not one person pointed that out. In fact, I read comments like he should shut-up and how bad it was that this came after a win. He didn't reach out to the media. He was asked very direct questions. Leading questions. He answered them w/out complaining.
That is NOT grumbling.
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Agreed. To date, he has not demonstrated anything other than professionalism...
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and the kid should not get bashed for last season as he gutted it out with an injury and played when most players would have missed the season.
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Vers, you are right on the money. I kept reading over what he said and trying to figure out what he did wrong. He wants to help the team win. No, he does not intend to demand a trade. What is the issue?
And yes, last year, the kid could've packed it in with the bad shoulder but he kept fighting. He is a disappointment, but I haven't given up on him yet and that is mainly BECAUSE of his attitude.
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Folks are bagging on O'Neil ( with reason ) but isn't this Pettines D ? I go back to last season, Pettine said he would spend a lot of time with the D and it ran pretty well.. Had issues against the Run but overall, better This year, Pettine said he was going to spend more time with the O and it's moving in the right direction. Not sure what that means, but something happens when Pettine isn't in the mix more. Maybe he's trying to groom his coordinators.. Don't know.
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Find a 4-3 team that wants him and trade him, but make sure you get decent compensation.
Heck, if you can get a solid ILB/MLB for him, do it in a heartbeat. Package him in with the Gordon and Manziel trade. Out with the bad in with the good. This FO really needs to start doing what's best for the team.
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Find a 4-3 team that wants him and trade him, but make sure you get decent compensation.
Heck, if you can get a solid ILB/MLB for him, do it in a heartbeat. Package him in with the Gordon and Manziel trade. Out with the bad in with the good. This FO really needs to start doing what's best for the team. What team would be crazy enough to take them all together?
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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
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Mingo was drafted to rush the quarterback. From any type of measurement he has not performed.
He has become a situational zone pass coverage linebacker.
There is no way he gets another contract.
There is no problem with him as a person or teammate. He is just not strong and stout enough to play OLB in the scheme the Browns play.
Just another first rounder to have little positive impact on the field.
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