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Supported the guy (pretty vehemently) since long before he was drafted by Cleveland due to a few family ties to A&M.

With that said, I think I'm done. As a QB in the NFL, you're viewed as a leader and a face of the franchise. There is some potential fiction in these articles, but there are also some pretty solid facts.

This post has nothing to do with football, but everything to do with the topic...

I got dispatched to the following call, no joke. Seems Johnny might learn something from this fella..

**CHECK ON WELFARE**
COMP ADV HE DROPPED HIS INTOXICATED GIRLFRIEND ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, TIRED OF LISTENNING TO HER B/F BLK DRESS ON THE CORNER
COMP SAYS HE IS NOT WAITING FOR PD

In the end he let her back in and they pulled off just as I was pulling up.

'Absolutely not' a good idea for Johnny Manziel to drink, former coach says

Pat McManamon, ESPN Staff Writer
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Johnny Manziel did not drink when his former high school coach lived with him in the spring and summer, the coach told USA Today on Saturday.

"He kept his sobriety alive and well when I was there," said Julius Scott, whom Manziel asked to live with him after leaving treatment in April.

Scott, 55, quit his job and moved in with Manziel for several weeks. He reacted with concern when he read that Manziel told police he had two drinks with his girlfriend Monday in downtown Cleveland.

"If he asked me if I thought drinking was a good idea, I would say absolutely not," Scott said. "You'd have to have your head examined if you said, 'It's OK to go have a couple.'"

Police questioned but did not charge Manziel after the quarterback and girlfriend Colleen Crowley argued in a car as Manziel drove to his suburban home. A witness reported Manziel going an estimated 90 mph on the left shoulder, then crossing several lanes of traffic to exit the highway. Police questioned Manziel after he pulled over.

Police questioned but did not charge Manziel after the quarterback and girlfriend Colleen Crowley argued in a car as Manziel drove to his suburban home. A witness reported Manziel going an estimated 90 mph on the left shoulder, then crossing several lanes of traffic to exit the highway. Police questioned Manziel after he pulled over.

The police report indicates that Crowley was intoxicated and quotes her saying Manziel was "beating her" in the car and that he pushed her head against the glass as he drove.

Avon, Ohio, police said they did not file charges because there was no supporting evidence of abuse and because they did not witness Manziel's driving. In Ohio an officer has to see what happened to file a minor misdemeanor charge, according to police.

Police said no charges would be pursued and that there was no concern about Manziel being drunk, which is why he was allowed to drive Crowley to his Avon home.

Both Manziel and Crowley posted on social media saying they had a simple argument and that their relationship was fine.

The Browns' plan for Manziel remains unchanged for Sunday's game against the Denver Broncos, which means he should be the backup to Josh McCown and active.

Manziel entered rehab at the Caron Center outside Reading, Pennsylvania, in late January and was released in April ahead of the Browns' offseason workouts. The exact nature of Manziel's treatment was unclear, but the facility specializes in drug and alcohol rehabilitation.

The team also has no immediate plans to suspend or release Manziel. The Browns remain supportive of his post-rehab efforts but are concerned about the most recent incident.

Manziel's teammates did not notice anything awry in the quarterback or in his practice reps during the week.

One player who knew something happened was linebacker Paul Kruger, who also lives in Avon. He happened to drive by where Manziel and police cars were stopped on his way home from a garden store and stopped to see what was wrong. Police told Kruger to wait in his car while they talked to Manziel and Crowley.

Manziel's reckless driving reportedly did not stop on Monday, though. The Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports that Manziel was driving dangerously on Thursday, three days after the incident.

God, I hate this kind of driver more than any other. They act like the rest of us are just scenery-props on their own private Le Mans track. IMO, this kind of public endangerment should be more than a misdemeanor. No $100 fine and be on your way to create more mayhem down the road - there should be jail time, or loss of license, just like a DUI.

That's a problem. That's the issue. Their stupid together. They shouldn't be lovers.

Manziel isn't worth his paycheck. Enough is enough. Time to cut ties and move on. That also goes for Gordon and anyone else that can't stay out of trouble.

I had to google maps this since I have no real idea of the area.

It appears from Browns HQ as mentioned in this article it is 528 feet or 1/10th of a mile, to the light at HWY 237. They pulled out of the parking lot on to Lou Groza Blvd, Johnny gunned it 1/10th of a mile to the light. No report of him driving crazy after this.

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I'm sorry, I guess I just don't see the big deal here...

The entire thread lacks football talk.

It's filled w/drama and belongs in the Tailgate forum. I keep picturing teen girls texting OMG on almost every post.

The big deal is he won't dump her.

I was thinking the incident happened further north, between Sheldon Rd and Snow Rd on Rt 237. The speed limit increases to 50 there , I believe. Its not really a big deal, until one day when he causes an accident that injures or kills innocent people. The point is his sense of entitlement and immunity from the rules the rest of us live by. The writer (Petrak) is correct, that this happened just 3 days after his incident on I-90 with Crowley indicates a real lack of comprehension on Manziel's part. I'm starting to think PDR was right all along, this guy has a room temperature IQ.

Well your right about that. The thread belongs in tailgate because it has nothing to do with football talk.

Celsius scale.

LOL Can't find a US Paper to quote?

I think Petrak was just driving really slow, held Johnny up and got mad when his car wouldn't keep up.

Doesn't matter though, we've now been informed by the board police this isn't a football post in "pure football". It's only been going on for 5 pages. OMG, rip out our eyes, we've read a thread in the wrong place! We're all going to die!

I haven't read everything on the subject yet and I doubt I will. I got to the part where Manziel had been drinking and thought, we'll isn't that just dandy.

THe boy isn't fixed in the head yet. Simple as that.

maybe this is WHY the Browns won't start him over McCown.

Proof again that WE don't know everything that goes on in Berea.

I thought the same thing.

It might be a little of both though, they have faith in McCown - he is doing quite well lately, and they're losing faith in Johnny, but are trying to keep the why quiet. Now the reason for not starting him a few weeks ago might be out of the bag?

Haven't read this thread all the way through, and likely won't. But I am on board with this.

I have stated that I thought Johnny hould be playing because I did not want to end this season without knowing what we have in him and I thought the only way we could know is if he played. I was wrong. This incident, and any others that we may not know about, tells us what we have.

Affluenza?

Bill Cowher says Browns should cut Johnny Manziel; Mike Pettine refuses to address incident right after loss to Broncos

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Super-Bowl winning coach and CBS analyst Bill Cowher said Sunday he'd cut Johnny Manziel in the wake of his domestic incident and coach Mike Pettine refused to address it right after the crushing 26-23 overtime loss to the Broncos.

"I've watched Johnny Manziel now for a year and a half and I think he's a backup quarterback at best. And he's a distraction off the field," Cowher said on The NFL Today. "And listen, I believe in second chances but after the second chance, to me there's a zero-tolerance policy. He can't put himself into the position he put himself into.

"I would ask for his release and I would do it for this reason: in that locker room players want accountability ... and that's the message that needs to be sent right here, that you're accountable for your actions both on the field and off the field."

Not only have the Browns not cut Manziel, they didn't even make him inactive for Sunday's 26-23 loss to the Broncos in overtime. He wasn't even demoted to No. 3 quarterback behind Austin Davis, who was inactive...........

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/10/johnny_manziel_cleveland_brown_6.html#incart_river

Manziel violated the teams (and fans) trust by drinking again. And once you lose someone's trust it is very hard to ever get it back again.

'Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.'

Might I just add it's too bad about Johnny, as I think he could be a good QB if he stayed clean & sober...But so far he cannot.

In the end I don't care what Johnny does on his own time.

If he is coming to the facility sober and putting in the effort, that is all I am concerned with. If he wants to partake in a few drinks on his own time, that is his business.

Now granted, it would be sad IF his rehab meant no alcohol, and he was falling off the wagon, but since we don't really know if that was the case, and the report says he showed no signs of impairment, then I can't really get on the guy for things I don't know all the details about.

This is a joke, Manziel is a draft mistake that Farmer keeps trying to hide, cut the BUM now.

So, what would the phrase be w/Gordon?

"Fool me six times, ............, ............, .........."

I just can't understand the argument that people are making for cutting Manziel and keeping Gordon.

With Gordon - use smaller words.

I'm on board with Cowher. 100% agree, he's a distraction in a factory full of them.

It's clear Manziel doesn't wanna grow up. No charges or not, let's promote Austin to #2 and sever ties with the kid that needs another 2.5 months of rehab and needing babysat.

I saw Cower's rant on the tube. What isn't in this is others in the group disagreed with the chin, that Manziel is a real started in the league and worth the effort and that this is a non-issue.

Did Cowher say the same thing about Rapistbooger when he was accused of raping a couple of girls, that the Steelers should cut him? This is not a rhetorical question, I honestly don't know if he did or didn't.

That's a valid question, but as much as I dislike Roethlesberger and think he did assault that girl (I thought it was only one), there was no pattern of behavior that I'm aware of that would have suggested to the team that it wasn't either a. a false accusation or b. a one time lapse in judgement. Second chances and all...

Johnny's exhibited a pattern of behavior that has been at best poor and at worst self destructive from day one.

Dash cam released in Johnny Manziel domestic argument involving girlfriend

http://www.newsnet5.com/sports/browns/da...ving-girlfriend

After seeing the video, this confirms it's a non-issue to me.

Watching this, I can't help but think..."Run Johnny, run!"

Far far from that crazy woman.

SO much noise and so little substance here. I hope those on their high and mighty horses, looking down and judging everyone else in such black and white terms get more love and compassion given them when they fail at life ... and everyone fails at some point.

Actually I want both to go now. I'm pretty sure with Gordon we can't trade him until he's reinstated. Not sure we can cut him either. Maybe someone can enlighten me on that

I hear you, how can someone break the rules so much and get so many suspensions get so many free passes?

Lets not forget that Charles Woodson stood up for Johny and said he wouldn't cut him, and that he thinks he has the talent to be a good QB.

I hope he gets all the love and compassion he needs to get his life straightened out. I just don't want him going through his issues on theam I care about.

If you watch that video, you can see what a crazy loon she is. She was the drunk one cussing and causing problems with the police, not to mention she threw his damn wallet out of the car.

He seemed perfectly fine and reasonable when you listen to it.

I mean, I don't know how I would react if my lady threw my wallet out of a moving vehicle into a field.

He needs to distance himself from her ASAP.