DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Johnny Manziel pulled over during domestic argument, admits to drinking

She seems like a REAL SPECIAL individual. Holy cow!!!! Wonder if they ever found the wallet?

Around these parts if the woman states that the man hit her, someone is probably going to jail. I'd say Manziel was on the razor's edge of going and the only thing that saved him was his relative sobriety are her relative drunkenness. He probably also got celebrity treatment. He's lucky it was a Deputy Sheriff instead of one of the Imperial Storm Troopers of the Open Road aka The Ohio State Highway Patrol.

100% agree with you. Doesn't excuse him for the reckless driving or the fact that he's still surrounding himself with people like that (assuming she's not playing the classic battered wife and is actually making this all up). There is nothing that this guy has done that suggests to me that he deserves yet another chance.

I've known enough full blown drunks to know that they can drink significantly more than someone else and act sober as a judge. He may or may not be an alchoholic but he clearly has fooled a lot of people when it comes to his substance abuse, it should have been easy enough to fool a cop who'd never met him before.

I'd be okay with getting rid of Gordon as well, although I think we can actually get a late round pick for him as he's demonstrated actual talent on the field. Manziel is just not worth it as a player although I do hope he gets his life straightened out for his own sake.

over ten minutes of pettine press conference all on a back up QB lmao.

Manziel needs to get rid of this girl and have Tim Tebow hook him up with a girl.

NFL investigating Johnny Manziel domestic incident, Mike Pettine says

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/10/nfl_is_investigating_johnny_ma.html

Nate Ulrich ‏@NateUlrichABJ 4m4 minutes ago
#NFL spokesman on Mike Pettine saying league will investigate Johnny Manziel incident: "we have no further comment."

Lol at Kruger stepping in to save the day.

These are not the droids we're looking for. Move along. Move along.

I wasn't even going to watch the video but ended up doing so and not surprisingly I had my bias confirmed. LOL

She sounds like a battered wife and his protestations that he's sober just make it seem all the more damning.

The abrassions on her arm don't look consistent with someone just grabbing it, but perhaps she had some sort of bracelet on that caused the skin scrape off like that.

Having said all that, I'm sure it was edited to make it as sensational as possible so I'm not putting much stock in it. There's plenty of other reasons to not like him.

j/c

Thought this piece was worth highlighting...not sure how much of it is accurate, but whatever, this is a message board:



http://www.espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=50661

I just read that article over on another board.

If you're predisposed to the message, you are going to think it's a great article.

But it's really more of Grossi being a message board fan who happens to write for a sports website.

or maybe Manti Te'o can hook him up.

If that's true, then Pettine is screwed, because barring injury to McCown, I don't think he has any intention of playing Manziel. Even then I wouldn't be that surprised if he preferred Austin Davis over Johnny.

If so, then Pettine's tenure is indeed doomed......and expect a coaching change sooner rather than later.

I'm not even upset at Manziel. I dont believe he hit her. May have held her arm, but not much more past that.

Let her go Johnny and focus on you.

If we hire a coach JUST because he has a history with one of our current QB's, I'd be pissed. You don't hire a coach on that basis!

Only in Cleveland can a backup Qb who needs more months of rehab reign and take over all headlines and press conferences.

What a joke.

I see ZERO story here. Manziel is just a young guy out with his girl, she get's (at least) tipsy, then jealous and makes a huge scene... He seems to do his best to avoid it all getting out of hand. She pitched his wallet to keep him from going out with his friend after taking her home; easy to figure that little bit out.

Should he do this or that in his personal life, not for me or anyone else to say, let the kid(s) alone and just be a fan or not, the rest is just blah, blah, blah.

Just saw Krugers impression of Manziels girl... LMAO!!! i cant stop laughing!

isnt just johnny. its gilbert and bowe an who was our other first round pick? it goes back to textgate. jmo

Especially when you aren't even 100% sure that the QB is that good.

If that's true, then Pettine's only recourse is to play Manziel. If you play McCown and go 5-11 or 6-10 he is probably fired. If he puts Manziel in and he shines, great... if he flops, at least he can lean on that to say, OK, I tried it your way.

Regardless, if this is true, it's not the atmosphere that any name coach wants to coach under... feeling pressured to play one player over another by the top brass... no way to run a football operation.

It's Tony Grossi, so I'll take it with a GIGANTIC grain of salt knowing that mostly he just trolls the fanbase and tries to stir the pot.

Unfortunately, if he plays Manziel and loses, it will be "You couldn't develop his talent enough, you need to be replaced.



Agreed, this team wants to micro-manage from the top down, which is a terrible way to run a team. Especially since we seem to get more incompetent the higher up the chain we go.

Definitely agree.

J/C The Brown's aren't going to start Manziel anytime soon. May as well trade him to a team that can use him right away. He'll only continue to get in trouble when he's not playing. The only thing that could possibly keep him out of trouble is starting every game.

He does have a point. Where is the culture of winning they promised? Where is. "we're going to do the best thing for the team"? You know like what the Patriots and other teams with winning cultures do?

As an organization, and as fans of the Cleveland Browns we all deserve better than this! Cut him now!

Please! Reporters of Grossi's type make crap up BECAUSE they work for ESPN.

You have to win before you can have a culture of winning... that whole thought process always confused me. You can't "instill" a culture of winning... you can instill a culture of hard work, tough play, accountability, etc..... and when that leads to winning, then the culture will come.

As for the Patriots, they have it right.. DO YOUR JOB. That needs to apply to everybody from Haslam on down.

Nope, no way do we cut him at this point. If McCown gets clobbered we might actually have to use him. That is if he can keep his head out of the bottle and his butt out of jail. And let's not kid ourselves here, he came perilously close to getting nailed for Domestic Violence on that call. Arrest is the preferred course of action on those calls and in the day and age of dash cams officer discretion is greatly reduced. That's what we've got in a second string quarterback at this point. And we are probably going to need him on the field before it's all said and done.

When he's on the field he doesn't look half bad. But the circus definitely rolls in to town whenever he's around. I don't know that he's worth it in the long run. He's worth it for ten more games if he doesn't get suspended. Farmer should be horse whipped for drafting him. No wonder he fell to us. It was a high risk/high reward gamble and it looks like a bust so far.

I'd be more inclined to take a flyer on Josh Gordon than Manziel next year. Assuming Gordon doesn't screw up his life permanently. But that's next year. And there's still football to be played this year.

Your right...they drafted Manzeil NO 1 hopefully to be our future franchise Q.B. did we miss on him who knows,mind you, we didn't have a franchise Q.B.here just a backup he JF came here thinking he was to be the guy but was treated like a POS from the 1st day of camp till now. I believe that the team is at fault for his problems like they've done in the past with other QBs espescially the coach

That would mean there was even less about this that means anything, if they even thought there was a hint of abuse, he would have been arrested.

He wasn't so, there obviously wasn't anything more to this than a couple having a spat.

Has anyone, ever, before this episode been pulled over.....admitting they've had a few drinks earlier in the day....not been told to blow? The "he didn't appear to be intoxicated" schtick doesn't float. Lot's of people can handle their liquor. My dad was the best, lol. It couldn't have happened too much earlier in the day given how hammered she was.

or he quit drinking alcohol at some point and she continued.

HAHHAHAH!
Of his "type"?? Seriously?
He's nothing short of (and definitely nothing above) a professional Mud-Slinger. He has no caliber. The only thing that puts him above old Roger Brown is he doesn't begin every article with "Word is...".

Secondly, ESPN is hardly the standard of quality, ethics, or reliability. They're only BARELY a step above the tabloids, and no matter how you slice it, the first letter in the acronym of their name still stands for ENTERTAINMENT. They are not and have never been purely about true sports reporting, they are about Entertaining.

j/c

I have to say I find this thread extremely entertaining.

Here we have a story where nobody was arrested and fans are blaming the media, and yet this is page 8 of the thread.

It seems to me considering those factors, the media is doing their job. It seems every thread or story put out regarding Manziel ends up locked due to thread length.

If that's the overwhelming response to a story I'd have written, I'd keep writing them!