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That is, almost certainly, not true.

So you are uncertain in that comment.;)

you do understand development of a player right? kind of what we did with that johnson guy that the vikings got off us? but ofcourse if you think keeping a 30 plus reciever that can not even see the feild is more important..... well to each there own.

I don't want either.

Also, Charles Johnson had a good stretch last year, but so far this year he has played in three games and has 46 years.

Pettine and Farmer are a complete disaster. Haslam needs to give them their pinks slips, ASAP.

I'd say Farmer needs to go ... I wish we could give Pet a little more time to improve his game management because I think that's his biggest area of weakness; however, I also realize getting rid of the GM will also spell the end of Pet (unless Kuharchick is the replacement?)

I would say playing in 3 games at 46 years old is quite an accomplishment.

Crabtree did not want to sign with us bro, because we were telling everybody we were going to be a run first team on offense and because Josh was going to be our QB He wanted to sign a short term contract make his numbers look better then move on to whoever offered him the most money.

As far as Marshall try reading up about his past before you complain about us not trading for him any more. You go on and on and on about Josh Gordon all the time, yet you always pimp Marshall His rap sheat is longer than Johnny and Gordon's combined

rticles.chicagotribune.com/2012-03-14/sports/chi-brandon-marshalls-rap-sheet-20120314_1_brandon-marshall-rasheedah-watley-press-charges

Newly acquired Bears receiver Brandon Marshall has a long list of off-field incidents and twice has been arrested for suspicion of domestic violence. Here is a timeline of those events.

Oct. 31, 2004: During his junior year at Central Florida, Marshall was arrested at a Denny’s restaurant in Orlando, Fla., on charges of assault on a police officer, disorderly conduct, trespass and resisting arrest without violence and refusal to obey. The charges were dismissed.

April 8, 2005: Marshall was charged with retail theft, a misdemeanor, after trying to return a stolen set of bed sheets, valued at $19.99, to a Burlington Coat Factory. The charge was dropped.

June 17, 2006: Marshall and longtime girlfriend Rasheedah Watley both filed police reports alleging physical abuse by the other in a long altercation at an Orlando apartment. No arrests or charges were made.

Jan. 1, 2007: Marshall was at the Denver nightclub Shelter with Broncos teammates Javon Walker and Darrent Williams, attending a birthday party for Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin. As the group left the club in a limousine, Williams was shot fatally in the neck by an unknown assailant. Walker later said the shooter was likely another man at the nightclub who was seeking retaliation after an altercation with Marshall's cousin that evening. Marshall testified at the trial of gunman Willie Clark that he helped escalate the dispute that led to Williams' death.

Jan. 24, 2007: According to the Denver Post, police interviewed Marshall and his father after an argument in an Orlando parking lot. Marshall claimed his father tried to hit him with his car. His father claimed Marshall had fired a gun. Both men declined to press charges.

March 18, 2007: In Atlanta, Watley told police Marshall punched her and took her purse while in a hotel. Marshall was gone before police arrived. No charges were filed.

March 21, 2007: According to the Denver Post, police in Palm Beach County, Fla., interviewed Marshall and Watley twice in the same night after two loud arguments. Both said the disturbances were not physical in nature. No arrests or charges were made.

March 26, 2007: Marshall was arrested in a Denver suburb on suspicion of domestic violence. Watley reported Marshall prevented a taxi she was in from leaving his house. Marshall completed anger management counseling and the charges were dropped two months later.

June 8, 2007: According to the Denver Post, two incident reports were filed by Atlanta police. A friend of Watley’s claimed Marshall hit her car and then threw a rock at the passenger door as Watley was riding in the passenger seat. Watley also told police Marshall cut her in the thigh and punched her in the face. She was taken by ambulance to a local hospital. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

June 30, 2007: According to the Denver Post, Watley told Atlanta police Marshall punched and choked her at his condo. She had a bruise and scratches. Marshall was not present when police arrived. No charges were filed.

Oct. 22, 2007: Marshall was arrested in Denver and charged with driving under the influence of alcohol. He was pulled over driving the wrong way on a one-way street hours after a game. He later pleaded guilty to a reduced charge of driving while ability-impaired and was sentenced to one year of probation and 24 hours of community service.

March 6, 2008: Marshall was arrested on charges of misdemeanor battery in Atlanta after a dispute with Watley. She told police he punched her in the mouth and eye. Marshall said he cut his hand on glass.

Aug. 6, 2008: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Marshall for three games for violating the league’s personal conduct policy. The suspension was reduced to one regular-season game and a fine of an additional game check, costing him $52,353.

March 1, 2009: Marshall was arrested in Atlanta on disorderly conduct charges after allegedly being involved in a dispute with then-fiancee, Michi Nogami-Campbell, now his wife. Charges were dropped the next day.

Aug. 14, 2009: Marshall was found not guilty on the battery charges from the March 2008 arrest in Atlanta.

April 23, 2011: Marshall was taken to Broward General Medical Center after Nogami-Campbell stabbed him in the abdomen at their Florida home. Nogami-Campbell told police she stabbed Marshall “out of self-defense.”

Sunday: Marshall is accused by a 24-year-old woman of punching her in the eye, leaving a black eye, in an altercation outside a club in New York. Marshall’s attorney says it was Marshall’s wife that was injured and says the couple are the true victims in the case.

Sources: Tribune news services, South Florida Sun-Sentinel

GM, this is the same guy that bashed Rubin's and Sheard's performances last year but now is using their signing elsewhere against Cleveland. Apparently you can have it both ways around here. Throw Jordan Cameron in the mix too. Same thing.

I find it funny people are using Gipson's 2nd round tender against Cleveland as well. It was a concern signing him long term because he was coming off an injury, and wouldn't you know, he's injured again.

Look, I want Gipson to come back and hope we sign him, but I don't blame the Browns for being cautious about extending him. Not one bit.

After his play so far this year, the tender is looking pretty smart.

He's not playing horrible, but isn't looking like a guy that should be one of the highest paid Free Safeties either.

Guess I will have to take the other side of the coin ( WHO WOULD BELIEVE ) My opinion of Pettine has changed greatly since the beginning of the season ; and I think he would cut off his nose to spite his face .. Sorry .

Goofy conspiracy theory. Maybe Pet is holding out Bowe to make Farmer look crapola.

Maybe Bowe and Manziel are good pals in the locker room, and since Pettine hates Manziel according to some on here, he has a grudge against Bowe as well.

Maybe he's holding out Bowe and Manziel because Farmer IS crapola?

Maybe he's holding out Bowe & Manziel because Bowe & Manziel are crapola and it has absolutely nothing at all to do with Farmer?

I better grab some TP...seems like a lot of crapola going around..

Could be. That would mean our coaching staff has zero ability to develop or use talent.

Because one is a bad pick and the other a bad signing, (GM's responsibility), or the coaching staff has no clue how to develop and use the talent given to them.

Kind of a pick your poison scenario.

That is the same excuse trumped up by Richardson's agent a few years back through his media leaks.

Richardson was afraid to hit the non-Alabama, NFL-level hole, possibly ruining his short-muscled, non-football, body-builder physique. Hartline cannot separate from anyone anymore, and saw the handwriting on the wall for this team back in Camp Cupcake when he started riding the stationary bike instead of practicing.

Nope, not at all, it just means that those two players are crapola. It doesn't necessarily say anything one way or another about the coaching staff.

In all fairness, he catches most everything that comes his way.

Which is why he is 9 for 20 on the year.

Color me embarrassed.., I thought he was doing better than that...., I retract my previous statement....

Honestly, while I haven't watched a few of the games, I can't even think of a single reception by him. I was surprised to see it as high as it is at nine.

I repeat...What's a Dwayne Bowe?

Don't feel bad. After reading this forum I was convinced he hasn't played at all this year.

He had the one that he caught between his legs, but that's the only one I can think of.

Even I didn't think his percentage was that bad

I don't know it it is to make Farmer look like carap, but I have already said I don't think the Farmer/Pet marriage is all that solid. They might talk the talk in public, which is good, but behind closed doors I think there is a problem. The TE situation is one of them. We have all these Te's and Pet won't dress them. Makes me wonder if Farmer released D linemen that Pet really wanted to keep?

When things work, this 2 person system is fine. When they aren't fine, it is human nature to deflect and point in another direction. That is why I would rather have the coach in total charge of the roster and selection of players.

Who cares if Bowe and Hartline haven't been doing much.

The offense has been going through Benjamin, Gary Barnidge, Duke Johnson, Isaiah Crowell, and others.

And if that's what it is, then that's what it is. End of story.

I figured it out, what it's like. It's like the Browns , are trying to cook already cooked food

Instead of trying to get raw ingredients and turn them into a delicious meal, like a chef should, the Browns are always trying to go to the ingredient bin and trying to find the finished meal.

So they get ready to eat meals. Which aren't the best.

Maybe they need to just stop trying to win the draft, and just go get some raw guys and develop them over time. That way the people they get, still have something to prove.

And I don't think it's anyones right to ask to cut Duane Bowe. If the Browns want to, then that's a team decision.
Why not pay a guy more money than average just to sit and watch.

It's par for the course for the kind of things this team has exhibited since whenever.

If they are both crapola, then it is all about Farmer, because he is the "stooge" who brought both to Cleveland.

Thanks GM.............all I know is that Marshall is playing and Gordon is NOT! Oh wait, I also know another thing, Farmer's boy Bowe can't seem to find the field either.

But go ahead and act like I am the irrational poster. Pffttttt...........

Yes, but it's NOT because of any imagined rift between Pettine & Farmer, which the posts up to that point had been premised upon.

I misunderstood your intent. My apologies.

It's a saying from Skittles. Taste Dwayne Bowe

Dwayne can find the field. He just can't play very well on it

As far as being irrational did I say that? Have I ever once called you irrational? I simply pointed out Marshalls rap sheet and that you pimp him, and bust the front offices balls because we didn't trade for him yet you bash the Browns for drafting and keeping Gordon? Does that make sense to me... nope but it does to you. I didn't say that made you irrational it just means we disagree.

Hate to break into the thread, but yes, I think he should go and we find somebody else for that roster spot. Let's see . . . .where do we show needs? I mean any needs at all.
Lot of cuts and releases going around. Any needs whatsoever?

Lots and lots of them bro

I wish Farmer would sign a ILB, and not one for the practice squad.

As for Bowe, the way Pettine plays people, it tells me that he is just not giving any effort to contribute. Something tells me they asked him about STs, and he declined.