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weak.

i don't like the democrats stance on immigration.

I'm still a democrat.


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weak.

i don't like the democrats stance on immigration.

I'm still a democrat.


Unfortunately, I think that the Republicans have been weak on almost every issue that has come before them. and I have said so.

I would prefer a conservative party, but that's never going to happen. All we can have is "Democrat" and "Democrat Lite" in this country today.


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i don't agree at all.

we have right leaning, and extreme right in this country.


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How could they get anymore conservative?

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How could they get anymore conservative?


By not rolling over every time Obama and the Democrats say "boo".


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That's not conservative. That's obstructionism.

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By enabling, I mean giving, not earning, creating folks who are entitled. Highlight any program you choose. Most of these programs were developed to allow those folks falling upon difficult times to temporarily use them to create a better life for themselves.

The Big 3 automakers, Boeing, Archer Daniels Midland, Wall Street; some of the most entitled citizens in the country.


Whats your point here? Those industries keep working and keep hiring others. They are certainly not non productive, idle or acting entitled.
Principles of capitalism is if they can't make it let them be replaced.

So if they can get support from our tax dollars why can't we support others?

Is it only because you assume none of them are productive?

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By enabling, I mean giving, not earning, creating folks who are entitled. Highlight any program you choose. Most of these programs were developed to allow those folks falling upon difficult times to temporarily use them to create a better life for themselves.

The Big 3 automakers, Boeing, Archer Daniels Midland, Wall Street; some of the most entitled citizens in the country.


Whats your point here? Those industries keep working and keep hiring others. They are certainly not non productive, idle or acting entitled.
Principles of capitalism is if they can't make it let them be replaced.

So if they can get support from our tax dollars why can't we support others?

Is it only because you assume none of them are productive?


No, there is no assumption about those using the system as it is intended: temporarily. Most of those folks move on to productivity and success in time. These folks most often have self pride, desire a better life and to get back to the thread, are actively involved in the lives of their children. This message of overcoming adversity resonates with the family and, most often, the result is productive and hard working children.

The opposite is also true. Most often, note the operative words : MOST often, parents who use the system as a way of life will instill this idea in their children and the cycle continues for generations.


The assumption IS about those using the system as a way of life.


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I agree, but I think it's important to recognize everyone using and the system and relying on it to keep them in business.

I think they take way more money.

I could be wrong.

Anyway, today's students have way more economic burden than when we were in school.

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By not rolling over every time Obama and the Democrats say "boo".
How can a congress that's in total gridlock be considered rolling over?

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I agree, but I think it's important to recognize everyone using and the system and relying on it to keep them in business.

I think they take way more money.

I could be wrong.

Anyway, today's students have way more economic burden than when we were in school.


True, and I wonder how many are just wasting money anyway because they choose to major in basket-weaving or whatever. smile


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My perspective on this thread was to address the topic: declining student resilience: a serious problem for colleges.

it is with the topic of this thread in mind I make the observations I have. The effects of entitlement on students of any age are far reaching.


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My perspective on this thread was to address the topic: declining student resilience: a serious problem for colleges.

it is with the topic of this thread in mind I make the observations I have. The effects of entitlement on students of any age are far reaching.
My point is entitlements go way beyond students and have been around for way longer than recently.

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The fact is, many wealthy students and corporations feel just as entitled as people who live on welfare.

Spoiled rich kids feel no less entitled than the poor. Businesses living of the taxpayers feel just as entitled.

This problem isn't simply among people who have lived off the system.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
The fact is, many wealthy students and corporations feel just as entitled as people who live on welfare.

Spoiled rich kids feel no less entitled than the poor. Businesses living of the taxpayers feel just as entitled.

This problem isn't simply among people who have lived off the system.


Spoiled rich kids feel entitled by Daddy's money, not mine.
Businesses receiving tax dollars will make multiples of that money in increased production and hiring, good for me.
People living off the system take tax money as a way of life. They survive and give little back. Charity from me.

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People living off the system take tax money as a way of life. They survive and give little back. Charity from me.
The unions of energy monopolies get my charity.

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You certainly tow the GOP line in your response, but you may wish to look at how many of these corporations actually move jobs to foreign countries rather than create jobs here after receiving corporate welfare.


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Originally Posted By: PitDAWG
You certainly tow the GOP line in your response, but you may wish to look at how many of these corporations actually move jobs to foreign countries rather than create jobs here after receiving corporate welfare.


If you wish to take common sense and turn it into a Political thingy, so be it. I agree the Republicans show more common sense than the Democrats when it comes to business, taxes and spending.

As far as companies moving overseas, many are returning but leaving their money over there. Why do you think that is?

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Try taxes.


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You really provide your own answers if you were only willing to look at a common sense solution.

Tie these huge corporate tax breaks with keeping money in the U'S. We're not going to give you millions in tax breaks just to move your investments outside the U.S.

It's not complicated.

Also, since many wealthy corporations end up paying little to no income tax, using taxes as a reason they're investing elsewhere.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/26/us-usa-tax-corporate-idUSBREA1P04Q20140226


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Saying taxes cause them to move is like saying the confederate flag only represents states' rights.

The idea that taxes cause companies to leave completely misses the point. The overall idea is blooddrunk capitalists would rather hoard money, and not reinvest it into their workers, the well being of the country's citizens, or give it to others to make their lives better. Do we need profits? Of course we do, but deliberately avoiding taxes is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
Saying taxes cause them to move is like saying the confederate flag only represents states' rights.

The idea that taxes cause companies to leave completely misses the point. The overall idea is blooddrunk capitalists would rather hoard money, and not reinvest it into their workers, the well being of the country's citizens, or give it to others to make their lives better. Do we need profits? Of course we do, but deliberately avoiding taxes is ridiculous.


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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
Saying taxes cause them to move is like saying the confederate flag only represents states' rights.

The idea that taxes cause companies to leave completely misses the point. The overall idea is blooddrunk capitalists would rather hoard money, and not reinvest it into their workers, the well being of the country's citizens, or give it to others to make their lives better. Do we need profits? Of course we do, but deliberately avoiding taxes is ridiculous.


So, the government should go in and take over these companies? Take a look at this.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkb...to-dodge-taxes/

Here's a thought, maybe if the government would lower corporate taxes, as the corporations just raise their prices to pay those taxes anyway, more of them would stay here, and reinvest in their infrastructure and workers. What a novel idea, huh? If the US was the best place in the world to do business due to a friendly tax structure, more companies would come here, meaning more tax revenue.

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My perspective on this thread was to address the topic: declining student resilience: a serious problem for colleges.

it is with the topic of this thread in mind I make the observations I have. The effects of entitlement on students of any age are far reaching.
How is having a tuition around 12 times more expensive than tuition in the 70s be an entitlement.

Actual entitlements have been around forever. How about the Founding Fathers? They make a law that only white, male property owners could vote. That's a pretty sweet entitlement.

How about when whites in the south beat the crap out of black teens sitting at a lunch counter? I'd call that a sense of entitlement.

How about insisting guns don't kill people and gun rights should be increased? I know you wouldn't agree, but most people see that as a sense of entitlement.

How about having a population that consumes more and throws away more than any other country?

How about CEOs feeling entitled to raise their salaries 400% more than employees?

The issue of "entitlements" is a complaint made up by people who feel entitled to convince others that the problem with the world is other people getting stuff.

So is the real problem young people feeling entitled to an education because they got participation trophies? grin

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Actual entitlements have been around forever. How about the Founding Fathers? They make a law that only white, male property owners could vote. That's a pretty sweet entitlement.

How about when whites in the south beat the crap out of black teens sitting at a lunch counter? I'd call that a sense of entitlement.

How about insisting guns don't kill people and gun rights should be increased? I know you wouldn't agree, but most people see that as a sense of entitlement.


Actually, at the founding of the country, only land owners could vote. Most of them were white males. Women did vote at that time, as did free blacks that owned land.

Jim Crow laws were passed in mostly democrat run states, that were democrat run states that used to own slaves.

Guns are a right as guaranteed by the 2nd amendment, not an entitlement. If most people see that as an entitlement, their free public schooling is failing them.


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Indoctrination of, I mean teaching our children...

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Actually, at the founding of the country, only land owners could vote. Most of them were white males. Women did vote at that time, as did free blacks that owned land.

Makes you wonder what the point of the 15th or 19th amendments was.

Jim Crow laws were passed in mostly democrat run states, that were democrat run states that used to own slaves.

The same democrats who are now staunch conservative republicans and say the confederate flag is about state's rights?

Guns are a right as guaranteed by the 2nd amendment, not an entitlement.

You say tomato I say tomato.

If most people see that as an entitlement, their free public schooling is failing them.

Would that be the same public schooling that gave you the idea that the amount of women and blacks who voted in the 1700s was worth mentioning?


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My perspective on this thread was to address the topic: declining student resilience: a serious problem for colleges.

it is with the topic of this thread in mind I make the observations I have. The effects of entitlement on students of any age are far reaching.
How is having a tuition around 12 times more expensive than tuition in the 70s be an entitlement.

Actual entitlements have been around forever. How about the Founding Fathers? They make a law that only white, male property owners could vote. That's a pretty sweet entitlement.

How about when whites in the south beat the crap out of black teens sitting at a lunch counter? I'd call that a sense of entitlement.

How about insisting guns don't kill people and gun rights should be increased? I know you wouldn't agree, but most people see that as a sense of entitlement.

How about having a population that consumes more and throws away more than any other country?

How about CEOs feeling entitled to raise their salaries 400% more than employees?

The issue of "entitlements" is a complaint made up by people who feel entitled to convince others that the problem with the world is other people getting stuff.

So is the real problem young people feeling entitled to an education because they got participation trophies? grin


Sorry, but I need to convince no one of anything. Just observations from 32 years in the system. All can choose to ponder or continue doing what they always did and getting what they always got. That, my dawg, is the definition of insanity.


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well, you're a teacher so i trust your judgement. i have no experience in the matter so i guess you're my main source.

but rock also teaches, just in case you didn't know.


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You do realize the same democrats who wanted Jim Crow to stick around got absorbed into the Republican Party back in the 60s, right?

Someone needs to educate the chain email system about Dixiecrats.

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You do realize the same democrats who wanted Jim Crow to stick around got absorbed into the Republican Party back in the 60s, right?

Someone needs to educate the chain email system about Dixiecrats.


I thought the Jim Crow laws were abolished.

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You do realize the same democrats who wanted Jim Crow to stick around got absorbed into the Republican Party back in the 60s, right?

Someone needs to educate the chain email system about Dixiecrats.


That's why MLK Jr. was a republican, right?


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I thought the Jim Crow laws were abolished.


Just like racism


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You do realize the same democrats who wanted Jim Crow to stick around got absorbed into the Republican Party back in the 60s, right?

Someone needs to educate the chain email system about Dixiecrats.


That's why MLK Jr. was a republican, right?


He never supported a political candidate... Where are you going with this?


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The most popular story on social media right now is a high school kid in South Carolina who was playing on her phone in class. Teacher told her to stop, she wouldn't. Teacher told her to leave the class, she wouldn't. Teacher got the administration involved, she wouldn't listen to them either. Teacher finally had the police officer come in, he asked her several times to leave the room, she wouldn't. He tried to pick her up and forcefully remove her from the class, her chair flipped over, he dragged her out of the desk, cuffed her and dragged her out. (Of course there are video's out there but they only show the few seconds of her chair flipping over which looks very violent.. oddly enough, nobody got video of anything she said or did.)

Now the cop has been fired and the teen girl is a martyr who will probably get a very nice pay day out of this.

I will say this, there are rumors (and actual cases) against this cop. He did cross a line, he very well may be a bad dude. But almost NOBODY on social media will even acknowledge this girls participation in what happened to her. She is a victim, a poor innocent victim.. who should have been reasoned with, maybe given another chance.


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The Cop screwed up. He should have asked her twice and then said, "Nothing I can do here." Then leave the room.

This is somewhat like Maryland Cops are acting today.

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