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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...-entire-season/Browns cornerback Ifo Ekpre-Olomu expected to miss entire season A former potential first-round draft pick, cornerback Ifo Ekpre-Olomu fell all the way to the seventh round in this year’s draft after an ACL tear and dislocated knee ended his college career. The injuries will keep Ekpre-Olomu off the field in 2015 as well. According to Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Browns head coach Mike Pettine said Ekpre-Olomu will likely miss his entire rookie season as he continues to recover from the injuries suffered last December. “Players that have had this injury before, it’s rare that you would return that season,” Pettine said. “Given our depth, we’re very comfortable with him sitting out. That’s just one that we felt it was a low-risk, high-reward move when we took him in the seventh round. There’s no reason to rush it back given the depth in that room now anyway.” The Browns took a flier on Ekpre-Olomu with their final selection, No. 241 overall in the seventh round, in hopes that he can return to his former self in time. Ekpre-Olomu posted 244 tackles and nine interceptions in four seasons at Oregon. He was injured in a December practice in preparation for the Rose Bowl against Florida State.
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That was expected IMO ... good to let him redshirt and recover to 100% ... I still really liked that we drafted him where we did
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No real surprise there. He was hurt in December, with a major injury, and it's only July. I would have been shocked if he would have been able to come back this soon.
The TE we drafted is also on the NFI list, and I read that he will miss all of training camp and half of the season, and then will be eligible to come back to the active roster.
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Not bad news, not good news. I think we all assumed this was going to be the case when he was selected.
Rehab, get well, see ya in 2016.
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Not that I want people to be injured..but man I love scooping up talent late. Frankly I'm more optimistic about this guy than both Gilbert and Desir.
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Not bad news, not good news. I think we all assumed this was going to be the case when he was selected.
Rehab, get well, see ya in 2016. That was my understanding as well. I was rather surprised when I read a while ago, that we may see him at some point this season...
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Yeah, taking a chance on him in the 7th round was smart.
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I LOVE this pick. IMHO, it's the right way to take a risk on a draftee. So much better risk than drafting for need (and overpaying) or grabbing a player with known character issues.
All are risks, and part of the draft game... but some are better than others.
From what I saw of him, he could truly become something special. Here's hoping he comes back 100%. With the NFL being a passing league, I want us to carry an embarrassment of riches at DB for years to come.
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Yeah, taking a chance on him in the 7th round was smart. Agree, how many 4-7th round guys actually make it. IEO pulls through and...good times!!! This is really a no brainer. You can say the the same for Telfer. Browns doctors can monitor their progress and provide the right care. In my opinion, it is no different drafting a person early and gets hurt.
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Good....his name is too whacked to pronounce anyways.
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Dude balled out in Oregon. Easily has 1st round talent (could have been a top 10-15 pick) and nothing bad character wise. Hopefully he can heal up.
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Any chance we lose him? There have been players in recent years like him that have been snagged by other teams, that were hurt and teams have tried to stash them for the year. They say there unwritten rules about this but it happens, I believe we had a db a few years ago we lost.
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Any chance we lose him? There have been players in recent years like him that have been snagged by other teams, that were hurt and teams have tried to stash them for the year. They say there unwritten rules about this but it happens, I believe we had a db a few years ago we lost. How did we acquire Michael Bowie?
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I think it's okay to take a chance on the character risk guys, too.
We got A. Bryant in the 7th and Crow as an UDFA. I'd say both were worth the risk.
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Wasn't that the expectation in the first place...
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Any chance we lose him? There have been players in recent years like him that have been snagged by other teams, that were hurt and teams have tried to stash them for the year. They say there unwritten rules about this but it happens, I believe we had a db a few years ago we lost. I don't think so. He'll just go on IR. It's not like they are putting him on the pup or PS......
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YAWN We knew this the day he was drafted.
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I think it's okay to take a chance on the character risk guys, too.
We got A. Bryant in the 7th and Crow as an UDFA. I'd say both were worth the risk. Ya Bryant had that DUI or whatever issue and then it's been 100% quiet. Crow hasn't had any hiccups. Gambles that indeed seem to have paid off.
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Any chance we lose him? There have been players in recent years like him that have been snagged by other teams, that were hurt and teams have tried to stash them for the year. They say there unwritten rules about this but it happens, I believe we had a db a few years ago we lost. Not if the Browns place them on injured reserve. Now Telfer, and the reserve eligible to return is different, I don't know for sure he's protected, or for that matter, the Browns would have to release someone on the 53 man roster at the time they bring Telfor back. If E-Fay, Ek-Pray, O-luh-Mu, is placed on IR, then the Browns have all the protection of keeping him to the start of next year as any other drafted player on the Brown's active roster through the season. I think Don Carey, db, was tried to be stored on the practice squad and taken by the Carolina panthers a few years ago. The practice squad is for almost ready players with 1 year of experience or less. Other teams can take a player from your practice squad, but that team must sign them to it's active roster. The Browns don't appear to be about to stash these guys on the practice squad, but on Ir, and ir eligible to return. If I recall correctly, only ONE player can be on Ir eligible to return during the season, per team. So if an unfortunate injury occurs to another Brown whom the team would want to put on Ir eligible to return more than Telfor, then Telfor would have to be either released, placed on full year Ir, put on the practice squad where he'd be eligible to be taken by another team, or required to take a 53 man roster spot. And at that point the 2nd player could be put on the IR elgible to return. And! I don't think that rules even let that happen, because I think a team can only use the IR eligible to return during the season for one player a year; so the above scenario could only happen sometime before the team actually places Telfor in that position, which it won't be required to do, until it starts making roster cuts.
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Informative post, thank you for that! 
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What happened with Carey is the way he went to IR. If you put them directly on IR, they count against your 90-man and your 80-man until final cuts to 53. If you want to put them on injured reserve and have them not count against those numbers you have to first give them "Waived-Injured" status.
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Any chance we lose him? There have been players in recent years like him that have been snagged by other teams, that were hurt and teams have tried to stash them for the year. They say there unwritten rules about this but it happens, I believe we had a db a few years ago we lost. Not if the Browns place them on injured reserve. Now Telfer, and the reserve eligible to return is different, I don't know for sure he's protected, or for that matter, the Browns would have to release someone on the 53 man roster at the time they bring Telfor back. If E-Fay, Ek-Pray, O-luh-Mu, is placed on IR, then the Browns have all the protection of keeping him to the start of next year as any other drafted player on the Brown's active roster through the season. I think Don Carey, db, was tried to be stored on the practice squad and taken by the Carolina panthers a few years ago. The practice squad is for almost ready players with 1 year of experience or less. Other teams can take a player from your practice squad, but that team must sign them to it's active roster. The Browns don't appear to be about to stash these guys on the practice squad, but on Ir, and ir eligible to return. If I recall correctly, only ONE player can be on Ir eligible to return during the season, per team. So if an unfortunate injury occurs to another Brown whom the team would want to put on Ir eligible to return more than Telfor, then Telfor would have to be either released, placed on full year Ir, put on the practice squad where he'd be eligible to be taken by another team, or required to take a 53 man roster spot. And at that point the 2nd player could be put on the IR elgible to return. And! I don't think that rules even let that happen, because I think a team can only use the IR eligible to return during the season for one player a year; so the above scenario could only happen sometime before the team actually places Telfor in that position, which it won't be required to do, until it starts making roster cuts. The Browns tried to put Carey on preseason IR, which exposed him to waivers.
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I think it's okay to take a chance on the character risk guys, too.
We got A. Bryant in the 7th and Crow as an UDFA. I'd say both were worth the risk. The interesting thing with Crow was both Tate and West ended up having the attitude issues. I think most of the NFL were fools to not take that bengals linebacker with all the problems and slow 40 speed. (who's name oddly eludes me right now) 4th round and beyond you're basically not going to get anything. I say take anyone with 1st round talent who has slipped for whatever reason. A bunch of first round guys don't slip despite off the field issues and a few will get injured their first season anyways. Snagging injured/mental guys late is a strategy I fully endorse.
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Good....his name is too whacked to pronounce anyways. It is pronounced exactly oh it looks. It is not hard at all, you just have to try. Or just call him IEO.
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I agree that we should have taken a flyer on him. Def liked the move at the time. Actually almost forgot about him, I was hoping we would take a 6th or 7th flyer on OT La'el Collins even if he was threatening at sitting out the whole year (and the issue with the law). Especially since we used all our 12 picks this past draft.
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Sorry,but this isn't Wheel of Fortune...where we use up all the vowels. Prefers names,where I don't need to decipher them with my Lucky Charms decoder ring.
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I'll take a player whose name is made up entirely of Y's, X's, Z's, U's, B's and M's ..... if he can play.
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I am not sure how to spell his name, but I believe you are speaking of Vontaz Burifict?
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Sorry,but this isn't Wheel of Fortune...where we use up all the vowels. Prefers names,where I don't need to decipher them with my Lucky Charms decoder ring. His name has only two more vowels than your name.
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Any chance we lose him? There have been players in recent years like him that have been snagged by other teams, that were hurt and teams have tried to stash them for the year. They say there unwritten rules about this but it happens, I believe we had a db a few years ago we lost. No. Bowie was placed of waivers. That way he wouldn't be counted on the training camp roster. It was during the waiver process we claimed him. This case is simply placing the player on IR. We lose a roster spot...can "only" have 89 in camp, but he remains our property. At least that is how I think it works, and I am pretty sure.
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I am not sure how to spell his name, but I believe you are speaking of Vontaz Burifict? Yeah Burfict, thanks.
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Does anyone have info on how Ekpre-Olomu is doing? Is the rehab going well? Will he be ready for 2016?
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I haven't heard anything about him which is typical of an injured late round player who has never taken a snap.
I made a reference to him in a post earlier today hoping that next year he'll be what we hoped Gilbert to be.
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I haven't heard anything about him which is typical of an injured late round player who has never taken a snap.
I made a reference to him in a post earlier today hoping that next year he'll be what we hoped Gilbert to be. Regarding your latter comment, if he can return to the form he showed at Oregon, then that may be the case. Regarding your former, late round draft picks aren't typically 1st round quality players either.
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I haven't heard anything about him which is typical of an injured late round player who has never taken a snap.
I made a reference to him in a post earlier today hoping that next year he'll be what we hoped Gilbert to be. Regarding your latter comment, if he can return to the form he showed at Oregon, then that may be the case. Regarding your former, late round draft picks aren't typically 1st round quality players either. Then there are guys like Crowell.. Probably not a first round talent, but clearly better than an UDFA. If not for issues, he'd have gone in the draft... and I think he's better than Trent Richardson...
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I haven't heard anything about him which is typical of an injured late round player who has never taken a snap.
I made a reference to him in a post earlier today hoping that next year he'll be what we hoped Gilbert to be. Regarding your latter comment, if he can return to the form he showed at Oregon, then that may be the case. Regarding your former, late round draft picks aren't typically 1st round quality players either. He was thought to be a late 1st round pick except for the fact he was injured which was the reason for the significant drop. He could possibly turn out to be a great pick by Farmer...
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The nature of the injury is also a risk. He may never regain that form. It's a total crapshoot. Regardless, I think it was an excellent pick. Low risk, high potential reward.
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and I think he's better than Trent Richardson... that's a glowing endorsement. 
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... late round draft picks aren't typically 1st round quality players either. True that. Kinda makes me think now that we should have heard something.
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... late round draft picks aren't typically 1st round quality players either. True that. Kinda makes me think now that we should have heard something. The beat writers probably haven't been thinking about him, but now that this has been floated and people are wondering, I would not be shocked to see an update soon.
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