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Part of me wishes the same. But I also realize that Lynch will take time to develop. Can the Browns be patient enough to draft another QB then wait on him?

If he has to sit at all, he is not worth taking where we will be drafting.

that Memphis/Houston game was crazy.

Memphis was up 34-14 in the 4th and Houston's star QB was out. Houston turned on the turnover machine (including an awful Lynch INT) and Houston ended up winning 35-34 on a missed FG by Memphis.

Did I mention I want Trevon Stewart on our team?

For what it's worth, with the Browns loss and the Lions win, the Browns now have the worst record in the NFL.

Well.. If Cook isn't hurt too bad, we will have a look at him this coming Saturday at 3:30pm.. he's gonna be playing a bona fide defense at Ohio Stadium

If by "wait on him" you mean live with his rookie mistakes, then I hope so. If by "wait on him" you mean endure another year of Josh McCown so he can sit on the bench, then no.

Well, the team could wait I'm sure... but there is zero chance that the fan base and media would ever allow it.

Lynch is a bit of a physical freak. He's 6'7" and very athletic. The mechanics of the human body work best within a height range which 6'7" usually exceeds. (Compare how Lynch moves to how Travis Wilson, another 6'7" QB, moves.) He's not unique, you can find several such individuals in the NBA. But in football, and specifically at the QB position, that height combined with that level of athleticism is very rare indeed. He checks all the physical boxes. The problem is lack of experience in a pro-style offense. And that is why he would need time to adjust his game.

We could go for Cook (or Goff) and get a more pro-ready QB, but I think that 3 years from now, Lynch could be the best of the 3...but we would have to have patience until then. And I agree with prpl, the team is more likely to be patient than the fan base/media.

I don't see any qb's in this class worthy of a top 10 this year. I think should probably trade down and fill a few holes

Who is out there, if not a QB, that is so compelling that a team is going to be willing to part with a bunch of picks to move up to #1?

Personally, I don't think you would have to sit Lynch. I think you could start him and similar production to what Mariotta and Winston Are giving the Titans and Bucs this year.

Do we even know if Lynch is coming out this year? I thought I read here that he was leaning towards returning to Memphis St.

No, we don't know, but with all these ranking sites ranking him so high, you can bet there will be pressure on him to declare.

We don't know if Lynch, Goff or Hackenburg are coming out this year

He'd be nuts to stay in college if he's the presumptive #1 overall pick.

I think that if Johnny continues to progress, it will make this conversation irrelevant. At least, that is what I am hoping for.

The kid played good yesterday. He's getting better. Let's see what he's got.

IMO, we will take a QB in the 1st round next spring regardless of Manziel's "progress". He took what Pitt gave him yesterday, and he deserves credit for that much, but come on man, 9 points.

He's my #1. I don't think that he is the presumptive #1. But a lot will change following the combine etc.

Problem with Manziel is, even if he has a few good games, do you feel comfortable that he will work at his craft more than he enjoys a craft brew?

We struggle in the red zone because we have midget receivers and make stupid penalties.

Don't forget the actual catching the ball part they have problems with too

Other than the "playing football" part, they've got it nailed.

Benjamin dropped a TD pass, but I thought that both Barnidge and Hartline were overthrows, although both were open. (On TV, Dan Fouts called them drops, and I thought "spoken like a former QB.") Then there was the interception in the red zone, when Manziel threw late over the middle ...

That INT. was on a 4th down and you can't blame him for trying to make something happen. Better thatn throwing it out of bounds with no chance at all.

Maybe the strategy behind those penalties is to take us out of the red zone ...

True, but on the other hand, he also wasn't the one holding, jumping off-sides, fumbling receptions, failing to pick up blitzes, and blocking for our -2 rushing yards...

If we take a QB with our first round pick, Manziel cannot be on the team. It would be a mess of epic proportions.

I'm not sure about "can't be," but if we do draft a QB I would keep McCown as a bridge/mentor and try to move JFF. If he plays well he may just end up with some trade value.

Round #1 - best WR (over 6'3")
Round #2 - best WR (over 6'3")
Round #3 - Stanford QB Kevin Hogan
Rounds #'s 4-6 -- any of these still available
Utah QB Travis Wilson
Western Kentucky QB Brandon Doughty
North Dakota St QB Carson Wentz

I've been playing with the Fanspeak On the Clock draft mocker, and while it's way too early to be even remotely accurate, one thing is clear, there are a lot of quality WR available. The drop off between WR available at the top of the draft and those available in rounds 3-5 is not as great as the difference at other positions.

It is looking very much like the Browns will have the first pick in the draft. As Bonefish has stated, and I completely agree, this could be the Browns chance at getting the best available QB. I don't think we can afford to pass that up. The trick is in getting the pick right.

hartline was iffy, but def within the catching radius of true #1 receivers. Barnidge pass hit him right in the hands, JFF put it only where Barnidge could make the play..it was the only throw he could have made there.

Having Manziel on the roster would undermine the new QBs ability to take the team as his own.

If we are taking a QB in the top five, we better be certain that guy "has what it takes."

"We could go for Cook (or Goff) and get a more pro-ready QB, but I think that 3 years from now, Lynch could be the best of the 3."
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That is very difficult to say.

It is extremely difficult to forecast what a guy can do in three years. There are just so many different variables.

First it all depends on what team takes him and what that particular situation is like.

Then you also are trying to project the players learning curve. Not to easy.

Goff is also coming coming from a spread offense. I can see that he is another guy far from were he will need to be.

The more you have to forecast the tougher it is to predict.

Sometimes what you see is what you may get.

There is no question in my mind that Connor Cook is way ahead of the others in regards to playing in the NFL. He has the most experience in running a offense that requires him to do what he will need to do in the NFL.

Is Cook a sure thing? NO. But he is the easiest guy to project. He has won and there is plenty of tape to see that he has done some impressive things.

There is still a long way to go before I cast a ballot but Cook has the lead at this point.