DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Johnny Manziel will start for the rest of the season.

Can we send Mary Kay to rehab for horrendous reporting or how about Pettine to rehab for horrible coaching? I'd rather send those two away than Manziel.

Geez, the media even got McCown saying he wants to help Manziel make healthier choices.

In the end, if he plays well, this is all meaningless.

People talk about how no one will want to come here if Pettine is fired. What about Manziel? What kind of coach wants to walk into a situation where you have to deal with the constant Manziel crap?

Pet better thank the heavens for the Manziel distraction. If not for Johnny football maybe some of these reporters would be asking what is wrong with your defense instead of did u see the photo or video.

I look at it with the glass half-full. Pretty soon University Hospitals will be out bid as a lead sponsor by TMZ Sports.

Let the $$ roll in!

https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/669205842374164481

Nate Ulrich ‏@NateUlrichABJ 2m2 minutes ago
#Browns QB Josh McCown said it'd be tough for Manziel, hard to swallow if starting job taken from him, we'll sort thru it if that's the case

I'm confused. We're those pictures old, or weren't they? Are there multiple stories getting spun into one?

We don't know for sure yet. At this point, it seems as if they are not old. Which means Manziel lied. Again. Twice.

How stupid is this guy?

lied? he didn't deny anything .

What a joke this is turning out to be! If they turn around and bench Manziel over this, that tells me it is nothing more than inner turmoil in the front office. A picture of him holding a champagne bottle? Really! I thought his rehab was voluntary and the last I checked he was over 21 and living in a country where people have freedom. He has had no real legal trouble, no suspensions for anything and fans and the media hound him like he is in the same category as Rice, Hardy, Smith etc.

I'm sorry, did Manziel get arrested this past weekend or did he get in trouble with the law, was he cited for anything? I must have missed that part...

No? You mean it's just a video of him partying? ok on to game planning for Baltimore end of story... This is what Pettine should have said. Why is Pettine even responding to this crap instead of worrying about how to fix a horrific defense, or how to fix their awful running game?

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/browns-johnny-manziel-starter-rest-season-35253478

Totally agree here. A simple "no comment on internal matters" would have sufficed.

Manziel = media's wet dream. Even if he doesn't do anything, one article causes mass hysteria/page clicks.

I really think this is all part of ESPN's plan. With a 2-8 team vs a 3-7 team MNF, they needed to boost ratings somehow!

/tinfoil hat

Manziel knows that the media will eat him alive for any misstep (no matter if it small or not). And he still can't lay low for one week. I am not saying don't party, have all the hookers and blow you want if you win. Just do it discreetly. Especially when you say, "I don't think they're going to have to worry about me this week."

GTFO

Because he hates Manziel and will hang him out to dry any chance he gets.

He promised not to be a distraction. He couldn't promise that the news hound media would not paint him as a distraction.

I think he's done his part all year. When he went to Texas earlier this month he was able to rekindle his relationships with his former team mates and coaches and and be the honorary captain for the game vs Auburn. (Remember, Texas is his home, it's not like he went to Vegas. He went home.) In the pictures that were posted in the media I never saw that 'happy drunk' face that we used to see when he was partying. He looked grown up.

When he went into rehab the reason he gave was to "figure out his value system".

"The quarterback is voluntarily entering treatment as a direct result of his lifestyle away from the field, and he informed people in his circle last week that he wants to "figure out his value system," a source said."
espn

That's why no one knows if he went for alcohol or another drug. It's possible that neither was a large issue for him, rather just a small part in a much, much bigger picture. Mostly I believe his issues were created by being a rich, ungrounded, spoiled brat kid who found himself as a National celebrity, who could do no wrong. He was a 'rock star' in the country's most popular sport at much too young an age for a rich, ungrounded, spoiled brat kid to handle it properly. Especially when you consider that he did/does possess some sick, mad skills. It would be easy for a guy like that to buy into his own hype.

He was/is more than a National celebrity. He was dubbed the pinnacle player of college football and all that goes with it. Johnny Football. Imagine having football named after you, and not just in your own circle but on a National level. That's a lot to deal with at that age. TV as well as print/internet media always in his face, following his every move, hanging on his every word, creating his persona for him. Unlike so many other quality, college QBs, who among us didn't know his face? I think he may have started to believe his press. Maybe he felt he could handle all that attention with no repercussions. That's the kind of thinking a good rehab program will correct. It will make one learn humility.

I do know from my own personal experience that rehab will help you get your priorities in line, to help you figure out your value system, to learn exactly what is and what is not important to you, not the you you think you are, but the you of whom you really are. You will gain humility, you'll learn you're not nearly as bad as you/they think you are and certainly not as good as you/they think you are. It's life changing, especially for someone who never looked at life from that perspective.

In one month of rehab I came out of that a completely changed person. And don't confuse me with the 'poster child' of rehab success.

Do I think I know the mind of Johnny Manziel? To a degree, yes. If you've never gone to rehab you don't have that insight. I see many people in my daily life who have no addiction issues but it would do them well to experience the life changing self-evaluation that you get from rehab.

I think Johnny is doing well from what I see. Of course, since I don't buy into the media hype but instead attempt to look at only the facts of his off-field lifestyle as I can see it and observe him on the field and his progress as an NFL QB, I think he's doing very well.

Now my hope is that he can develop the skills needed to succeed in the NFL.

why? because it has worked so well in the past?

maybe they are trying public humiliation to get him to straighten out?

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/11/mike_pettine_disappointed_by_j.html#incart_2box
Johnny Manziel might get benched by Mike Pettine for partying video

BEREA, Ohio -- Browns head coach Mike Pettine said Tuesday he's disappointed and frustrated by the video of Johnny Manziel partying in Texas over the weekend, and that Manziel might not start Monday night against Baltimore.

"When it's a repeated pattern of behavior, it's a concern," Pettine said.

Manziel is scheduled to start Monday against the Ravens but that could change after what transpired over the weekend. Pettine said Josh McCown is cleared to play from his rib injury and is good to go if they decide to start him instead.

Pettine has talked to GM Ray Farmer and owner Jimmy Haslam about Manziel, though he wouldn't say if the organization would require him to get more help.

McCown said Tuesday that he will be prepared if the Browns need him Monday. "I'll be ready to go," he said.

Bustedcoverage.com first published a video posted on DJ LX's Instagram account of Manziel partying at the Summit Rooftop Lounge on Friday night in Austin. The video shows Manziel holding a bottle of what looks like champagne and singing and dancing with the DJ. The caption on the Instagram read, "Sippin on Dom Perignon for no reason with Johnny Manziel.''

Another Instagram photo of him at Austin's RIO rooftop lounge was published on Thursday night. A source confirmed for cleveland.com that Manziel at least stopped into RIO on Friday.

Later Monday afternoon, after DJ LX removed the video from his Instagram account and made his account private, TMZ Sports published a story saying that it had obtained its own footage of Manziel partying at Summit Friday night. The site said multiple witnesses saw Manziel -- who vowed not to do anything to embarrass the organization over the bye week -- "boozing'' at the clubs on back-to-back nights.
Johnny Manziel speaks at Thanksgiving-week event Johnny Manziel talked with reporters Monday, Nov. 23, 2015, at a Thanksgiving-week charity event.

While volunteering at the Greater Cleveland Food Bank on Monday, Manziel hinted that the video of him posted Friday night with the bottle in his hand could be old.

"You know there's all kinds of people that come out,'' he said. "Videos can be old. Videos can be all kinds of different things. So like I said, I'm not in a state to be able to speak on it because my focus has been on this today and what really matters in this game on Monday. So that's where my focus has been. I did get a chance to relax. So I haven't seen anything like that, and I'm not going to be able to speculate on it right now."

Asked specifically Monday if the video was old, Manziel said, "I haven't seen it, so I can't speak on it."

He did not, however, deny partying in Austin on those nights when given the chance to do so Monday.

"I've been here for this (volunteer) event, and that's really what I want to talk about, the things that are really important, not what I'm doing off the field,'' he said. "It's what we're doing here in the community and what we're doing to get ready for this game on Monday night. So that's where my focus is, and I haven't had my focus anywhere else. I know that."

Manziel, who vowed that no one would have to worry about him over the bye week, acknowledged that he went home to Texas and returned to Ohio Saturday morning and attended the OSU-Michigan State football game.

"The bye week was great,'' he said. "I got a chance to go to see the Ohio State-Michigan State game. For all of the Ohio people, I don't think it went as well as they would've liked to but I got a chance to go back home for a little bit and come back early on Saturday and just get a chance to start looking over for the game and watched Baltimore play and obviously get kind of a jump on them and come here today and do this. I was very excited to do that.''

Manziel noted that he returned to Ohio a few days early, like he said he would. The players had five days off, from Thursday through Monday.

"(I was) able to come back early on Saturday, see a cool game and then get to spend some time getting ready for the week and for the game on (Monday) which is obviously going to be really big,'' he said. "I think this will be my first night game at FirstEnergy other than a preseason game since I've been here, so really looking forward to seeing what the atmosphere's going to be like, especially for a Monday night game.

"I'm pumped. I'm looking forward to this week of prep, getting a chance to get a day off on Thanksgiving. So much to be thankful for but it's a big week and I'm very excited to be back here and ready to go.''

Before Manziel left Cleveland for his five days off, Pettine sat him down and warned him to be a model citizen, especially since he had named him the starter for the final six games of the season.

"I let him know that I'm not going to do anything that's going to be a distraction to this team or be an embarrassment to the organization,'' Manziel said before leaving town. "I'm going to get a chance to go and relax like everybody else in this locker room is. I don't think they're going to have to worry about me this week."

Manziel, who was cleared by the NFL last week for a possible violation of the personal conduct policy, insisted he's on solid ground. But he admitted to drinking during the day during his roadway incident Oct. 12 with his girlfriend, Colleen Crowley. He also spent his mini-bye two weeks ago out and about at Texas A&M.

For most 22-year-old, a few drinks is no big deal. But Manziel spent 10 weeks in an addiction treatment center in the offseason, and photos of him partying on social media are red flags for the Browns. That's why Pettine felt the need to address Manziel's behavior after handing him the reins.

I agree.

I've been all for keeping Pettine for the sake of continuity in letting the team develop. But if he does this he can be fired Tuesday morning and I wouldn't disagree.

Think of everything that is wrong with Cleveland sports, Browns, Cavs, Indians, shoot even throw in OSU after Saturday's game and you want to report on a video?

We need Allen Iverson to do his "practice?" speech but instead insert the word video... We are 2-8, we don't have any playmakers, 31st ranked defense, worst ranked rushing offense, how many first round picks are starting for this team again? Don't even start on Bowe and FA pickups, and you guys want to talk about a video? A video? C'mon man...

Both need to go.

Fire Pettine and release Manziel.

Good post. I think it's ridiculous for a guy to be getting so much hate and he hasn't even broken the law. Sheesh.......we got guys like Greg Hardy for beating the crap out of a woman in the league and he gets less negative attention than Manziel, who has some drinks.

Again, I really don't think most posters realize how much partying goes on w/professional athletes.

If you think it's about the video, you are missing the point.

Straightened out from what exactly???

Partying is one thing. Repeatedly lying is a whole different thing.

And we are not talking about the average NFL player. Manziel was in REHAB this calendar year.

most people in rehab drink after they get out.

also--- I doubt there was anything in his contract that doesn't allow him to drink on his time off.

It's not about the video, that is my whole point man... Let the guy be 22 years old and if he wants to party so what it's not like he is missing a practice to go and party. If he's partying and late for film or misses a practice because he overslept because he's hung-over then yeah fine him, bench him, whatever the policy is because the NFL is a corporation and it's just a job. Let the guy live his life because ultimately it's up to him what he makes out of it.

And everyone that is saying he just went to rehab, so what it's HIS life not mine or yours. Every single time the guy turns around it's Johnny did this, Johnny was speeding, Johnny was fighting with his girlfriend, Johnny was in Texas partying, etc. Good lord if the media was up my rear like they are with him I'd probably be flying to Texas to party too to get away from it for a weekend.

Great. What about the fact that he is stupid enough to continue to put him in the public eye when he knows it will have an adverse effect on his career? And that he keeps lying?

Yes, it really looks like he got away from it for a weekend.

I agree, it's not my life. He literally can do whatever he wants. I just don't think we should be counting on him to be a reliable football player.

The Cowboys would snap him up in a heartbeat.

I sure wish this guy would have gotten cut from his team after partying... Or I'm glad he got benched... wait you mean they didn't bench him? haha

http://peerie.adaptive.net/faces/full/5/29514-185378.jpg

This is EXACTLY what needs to happen. Pettine is clueless. Manziel is nothing but a constant distraction. If anyone is going to change the culture, Manziel cannot be around. Period.

Let them. Jerry Jones loves publicity, good or bad.

Jerry Jones:



http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/p...-to-be-relevant

Because Manziel had Roethlisberger-level success so far in his career. . .

He hasn't, but why the double standard?

You act like life isn't just one big double standard.