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Even if there wasn't, there was definitely an agreement about this weekend.

We don't know that for sure, but how can you explain today's reaction from the team without that.

It seems lime there has to be more to this than what any of us know. Might there be other things that have gone on that we don't know about that the Browns do know about?

It seems lime there has to be more to this than what any of us know. Might there be other things that have gone on that we don't know about that the Browns do know about?

It seems lime there has to be more to this than what any of us know. Might there be other things that have gone on that we don't know about that the Browns do know about?

JM drinking--or holding--champagne is not that big of a deal.

What a bs article, "Tired that his shot at being an NFL head coach had been cursed by the decision to gamble on Johnny Manziel". QB play is the least of this teams problems, his shot at NFL coach being cursed by the fact he was supposed to be this defensive guru and it is the worst aspect of this team. A hard nosed run first AFC north team he said, we are one of the worst in the league. What a bunch of crap!

That is what I posted earlier in the thread. If that is the case, I'll take back all of the rotten things I've been saying. If it turns out they benched him because of what we already know, their asses can't be booted out of Berea fast enough.

I can't believe that you and I actually agree about something. LOL

You're kidding right? Guy calls into a sports talk show and starts crying? Really? And you think that's appropriate, admirable, and something we should use to guide ourselves going forward? GMAFB! Are you people Browns fans or Johnny fans?

Johnny Manziel has shown a lack of professional integrity and has been demoted to third string.

Did you see all the party pics of Gronk all off season?

Sorry, Manziel is the only one in the NFL that drinks during his time off. These pics do not exist.

Man.........one guy goes from starting to 3rd string because of a freaking picture
Look...........I wouldn't have benched Ben, either. However, unless there is a lot more to this story about JM, this is the dumbest demotion EVER!!!!!!!

To me.. the article may have regurgitated information, but it also put forth in an articulate manner, the feelings of the Organization, as well as many fans. Manziel is being paid money that many of us can only dream of, to be a professional.

Teachers can lose their jobs for being unprofessional in their personal lives, just as Doctors, Professors, Prosecutors, Journalists and even Military commanders can be called on to keep their indiscretions "away from the flag post." It is all a part of growing up and learning to be an adult.

I'm sure we all know someone this has happened to and we all said.. the dumbass should have known better. I know a male high school principal who at a party, told a sexual joke to female teacher. The party was not related to the school, just a group of mutual friends at a non-school event. The female teacher complained, and the principal was suspended. The board of education cited a lack of professional integrity. The principal served his suspension and retired.

Johnny Manziel has shown a lack of professional integrity and has been demoted to third string. The reasons are all well known, and have dated back since he became a Brown. He does still has a job, and he is still getting paid. This is Thanksgiving. Johnny should be thankful he is still getting paid bib money to be part of a game he loves.

JMHO

Would it?

Has he been identified by the NFL for violating the league's substance abuse policy?

Has he had several DUI's?

Heck, has he had one?

Did he beat the crap out of a woman while drunk?

Did he urinate in public? Who knows, maybe he peed on Pet's steps????

We know you hate the guy........but, please Barnie, tell us how his sins are worse than Greg Hardy's?

I do gotta say this, though................hey YTown, Rish, arch, and others..............you still think we should have taken Johnny over Teddy? Good call, guys.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/86708/johnny-manziel-timeline-with-cleveland-browns

Mike Pettine's decision to take the Cleveland Browns' starting quarterback job from Johnny Manziel came because of a series of off-field missteps by the second-year quarterback, which culminated with the most recent video of him holding what appears to be a pink champagne bottle at a club in Austin, Texas. Here's a look at Manziel's time with the Browns, going back to the draft:

Feb. 14, 2014 -- Before the draft, Manziel says many things about Johnny Football being gone and taking his job seriously.

May 9 -- Manziel texts the Browns during the draft and urges the team to take him so they could “wreck this league” together. After being taken 22nd overall, Manziel does his money sign as he walks on stage.

May 10 -- After the draft, Manziel parties the night away with magnums of champagne and celebrities.

May 26 -- Manziel appears in several online photos in Vegas during a down time in the team's offseason work.

June 10 -- The infamous photo is taken of him on the floating swan with a bottle of champagne.

June 16 -- The “money phone” video appears.

June 27 -- At the rookie symposium, Manziel speaks with the media and says he would not change his life for anybody.

July 4 -- A photo of Manziel rolling money into a small tube in a Vegas bathroom appears.

July 25 -- The Browns admit they are “alarmed” by some of Manziel’s behavior.

July 26 -- The Browns call Manziel in the day before training camp and speak pointedly to him about his off-field habits. Owner Jimmy Haslam says the team “expects better from him.”

Aug. 14 -- Manziel is late for a training camp meeting, saying he “misread the schedule.”

Aug. 18 -- Manziel extends his middle finger to the Redskins' bench in a nationally televised game, for which he is fined $12,500.

Aug. 20 -- Brian Hoyer is named the starter and Manziel admits to not being ready.

Nov. 22 -- There is a lobby incident/fight between Manziel, a friend and a fan Manziel describes as aggressive and intoxicated. The Browns express disappointment at the timing of the incident, at 2:36 a.m. the morning the team is flying to Atlanta for a game.

Dec. 1 -- Manziel replaces Brian Hoyer in Buffalo and runs for a touchdown to end his first drive.

Dec. 12 -- Yahoo! posts a story detailing the crazed lifestyle Manziel had in college, and how he went from being a college player "to Elvis."

Dec. 14 -- Manziel starts his first game against Cincinnati and throws for 80 yards as the Browns lose 30-0.

Dec. 21 -- Manziel pulls his hamstring and leaves the game just before halftime in Carolina.

Dec. 23 -- Manziel says he intends to take his job more seriously, that “it’s a job for me now.”

Dec. 27 -- Manziel does not show up for a team walk-through and treatment, with Browns security going to his home to find him. He later admits to being out the night before.

Dec. 29 -- Manziel says he can't say anything more to prove himself, that he has to put his words into action. The team agrees.

Dec. 30 -- The Instagram video appears with Manziel wishing LeBron James happy birthday.

Jan. 16, 2015 -- Manziel and Josh Gordon spend time in Aspen, Colorado.

Jan. 23 -- An ESPN.com story appears chronicling Manziel’s rocky rookie season.

Jan. 28 -- Manziel enters treatment at the Caron Center outside Reading, Pennsylvania.

April 11 -- Manziel leaves treatment after an extended 10-week stay.

June 1 -- Manziel throws a water bottle at a badgering fan at the AT&T Byron Nelson golf tournament in an incident that is dismissed as "fairly straightforward" by a police spokesman in Irving, Texas.

June 17 -- Manziel meets media for the first time, promises to junk the signature “money sign” and says he will do all he can to tamp down the off-field hype.

Aug. 13, 20 -- Manziel has a running and passing TD in each of the first two preseasons games.

Aug. 23 -- Manziel leaves practice with elbow soreness. He would miss the final two preseason games.

Sept. 13 -- Manziel takes over after Josh McCown leaves the opener with a concussion and has poor results.

Sept. 20 -- With McCown out, Manziel throws two long TD passes to Travis Benjamin in the Browns' first win of the season.

Sept. 27 -- McCown returns to the starting lineup against Oakland.

Oct. 12 -- Manziel is questioned by police after witnesses called to report he had been driving dangerously on the shoulder. He parks his car in Avon, Ohio, where his girlfriend tells a witness he had been beating her. Manziel admits to drinking downtown during the day. No charges are filed and the couple is allowed to leave together.

Nov. 5 -- Manziel starts for an injured McCown in Cincinnati and struggles in a 31-10 loss.

Nov. 7 -- Manziel is honorary captain at Texas A&M and parties that night in College Station, Texas. Photos appear on social media early the following week.

Nov. 15 -- Manziel starts in Pittsburgh and plays well, throwing for 372 yards in a 30-9 loss.

Nov. 17 -- Mike Pettine names Manziel the starter for the rest of the season. In doing so, he tells Manziel he has to live up to the responsibility. Manziel promises he will do nothing the bye week to embarrass the team or the organization. Later that day, the NFL announces Manziel will not be disciplined for the Oct. 12 incident under the league’s personal conduct policy.

Nov. 23 -- A video appears online on bustedcoverage.com and TMZ.com showing Manziel singing a hip-hop song while holding a bottle that appears to be pink champagne at an Austin, Texas, club. Other photos appear from his Thursday and Friday evenings in Austin.

Nov. 24 -- Pettine expresses his disappointment and frustration with Manziel’s actions, then announces he has lost the starting job. Pettine says McCown will start Monday night against Baltimore. Manziel is made the team’s third quarterback.

Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right,

the guy basically got in trouble for having a good time and somebody putting it up on social media.

is anybody gonna show up the last bunch of games to watch the mccown show?