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I figured I'd get a little info on him since he could possibly end up the starter...

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/austin-davis?id=2533349


Overview

Second-team all Conference USA as a Senior, a conference which has surprisingly produced pro-ready quarterbacks over the years. He is a good athlete and an accurate short-intermediate passer. Started a lot of games and has the pocket presence to stand behind an NFL line early in his career. His prospects are hurt by the general elimination of the third-string quarterback in the NFL, and if he is selected on a flier late, will likely need some time to develop on a practice squad.
Analysis
Strengths
Davis is athletic and systematic in his dropback. Toward the end of his college career, he was hitting a lot of his second and third reads, a good sign when evaluating his NFL-readiness. He will need to show the ability to hit fast NFL receivers in stride on the deep ball, but shouldn't have any problems managing a West Coast offense.
Weaknesses
Davis hasn't played in many high-level games. Struggles with his deep ball at times and his arm strength has been a slow, yet steady progression throughout college. It remains to be seen whether or not he has the type of zip on his ball to hit a deep 15-yard out in the NFL.


http://www.ninersnation.com/2014/10/11/6958657/49ers-vs-rams-austin-davis-scouting-report

The St. Louis Rams 2014 season was supposed to begin with Sam Bradford at quarterback, but he went down in the third preseason game with a torn ACL. Shaun Hill started the regular season as the Rams starter, but didn't even make through the season opener before leaving the game with a thigh injury. Enter Austin Davis, an undrafted free agent signed in 2012 out of Southern Mississippi. Since then, Davis has bounced around from the Rams, to the Dolphins practice squad, and now back with St. Louis.

Davis's college career was an impressive one. At Southern Miss, Davis broke Brett Favre's career passing yards record, throwing for 10,898 yards, 83 touchdowns, and only 27 interceptions while completing 61.1 percent of his throws. Not only could Davis throw, he could run like Favre too, rushing for 1,375 yards and 25 touchdowns. In his college career Davis went to three bowls, winning two.

So far, Davis has had a fairly good year for the Rams, and his 96.8 passer rating is an indication of that. I took a look at all his film to give a scouting report on who Austin Davis really is. There's a lot to like about him. He has a lot grit, toughness, smarts, and some things in his game the 49ers can expose.
Pros

Quick Progressions: Davis makes the right read often and without hesitation. The pace that he looks at one receiver and moves on to the next is impressive considering Davis has limited experience as a starter. "The thing that impresses you on tape [is that] he doesn't force the ball,'' Eagles coach Chip Kelly said. "A lot of times he's checking it down to the back, but he really quickly gets through his progressions. It's one, two, down to the back, and trying to get the drive extended from that standpoint.''

Mobility: Davis has only rushed for 27 yards this season, but that's a deceptive number, Davis has wheels. So far this season Davis has mainly used his mobility to buy extra time in the pocket. On a 3rd and 10 touchdown in the red zone against the Eagles, Davis bought more time doing a Russell Wilson maneuver to fake out a defender and then send a bullet into the end zone to Brian Quick.

Poise: "He was calm, collected, and just so focused on what he needed to do, he was not flustered at all." Jeff Fisher said after the Rams loss to the Eagles, where Davis was 29-49 for 375 yards and three touchdowns. Davis has the grit to get off a throw on the money with a defender bearing down on him. Not all quarterbacks can do that.

Accuracy: Davis can deliver a lot of big time throws that have perfect timing and placement. From throwing shallow crossers with zip allowing receivers to not break stride from throwing back shoulder darts that cornerbacks can't really defend, Davis makes many great throws. On the season, Davis has a 67.8 completion percentage.

Davis possesses good accuracy on deep throws, not just his check downs. Per Pro Football Focus, Davis has completed 11 of 22 throws of 20+ yards for 346 yards, 2 touchdowns, 1 interception, and a 107.2 passer rating. He's currently tied for 7th in the league in yards per pass attempt, averaging 7.9.
Cons

Footwork: Davis is relatively good at throwing off balance on the run, but it's been inconsistent to this point in the season. At times Davis will throw off balance even in the pocket, or off his back foot, leading to errant throws and missed opportunities. Other times his footing is great and drives the ball with authority to exactly where he wants to be. Footwork needs to improve or interceptions will be soon coming Davis way.

Ball Security: In the game against the Eagles, Davis fumbled twice when both fumbles could have been avoided. Big defensive lineman can strip a ball from a player of his size most of the time when he has just one hand on the football. When defenders are closing in he needs to learn how to tuck it in, otherwise his fumble numbers will only increase.

Gun Slinger Approach: Although Davis only has three interceptions so far, I counted more than a handful of passes he has thrown that were either dropped or should have been picked if the defender turned his head around. The ball is forced into too small of a window occasionally, and throws are made that a corner could jump in front of the receiver or undercut the route. He has some of Jay Cutler's tendencies of forcing the ball down the field. I will stress that this doesn't represent the entirety of his throws, as Davis makes the right throw usually.

Different Numbers When Blitzed: When Davis isn't blitzed his passer rating is an impressive 109.0, when he's blitzed it drops down to a 67.4 passer rating according to Pro Football Focus.
How to beat Davis

The 49ers defense is the best one Davis has faced this season. If the 49ers are to limit his production, pressure must be applied. The 49ers don't normally stray away from their typical gameplan week to week, but I expect it to be modified this week somewhat.

- Vic Fangio does have a lot of exotic blitzes he likes to keep in his back pocket for the right time. Expect to see a few more blitzes in this game thrown at Davis to see how he responds. Some confusing zone blitzes could create a turnover with Davis being forced to make a very quick decision.

- Blitzes or no blitzes, Justin Smith and Aaron Lynch are going to be thorns on Davis' sides. If the Eagles front can strip the ball twice, I like the 49ers chances to make Davis fumble at least once.

- The 49ers have much more awareness play to play by their secondary than what the Eagles displayed last week. In that game alone, I counted five passes that should have gone for interceptions the Eagles way, one of which ended up being a touchdown pass. Antoine Bethea and Perrish Cox have been playing well together, and that side of the field could become a problem for Davis, they're usually looking at the quarterbacks eyes and not just the receiver. His best success against the 49ers will be on comeback routes or back shoulder throws. The 49ers have been doing well at limiting the yards on any check down recently.
Conclusion

Davis was really intriguing to scout, and he may have a bright future. His positives make him a quarterback not to take lightly. I much rather have the 49ers be squaring off with Shaun Hill this week. Davis has more to offer than Hill, he can do more things to will a team to victory. His numbers are good but I find them to be a bit deceiving and he can be exposed if the 49ers defense plays disciplined and applies pressure. If Davis is given time he will be able to make the right decision and put up a good state line yet again. It's all up to the 49ers defense as to how Davis will play.

Highlights: Davis in the Conference USA Championship against Rams quarterback Case Keenum

http://www.fanaticalyankee.com/2012-scouting-reports/austin-davis-scouting-reports

National FootBall League on Austin Davis:
"Second-team all Conference USA as a Senior, a conference which has surprisingly produced pro-ready quarterbacks over the years. He is a good athlete and an accurate short-intermediate passer.

Started a lot of games and has the pocket presence to stand behind an NFL line early in his career. His prospects are hurt by the general elimination of the third-string quarterback in the NFL, and if he is selected on a flier late, will likely need some time to develop on a practice squad.

***

Strengths: Davis is athletic and systematic in his dropback. Toward the end of his college career, he was hitting a lot of his second and third reads, a good sign when evaluating his NFL-readiness. He will need to show the ability to hit fast NFL receivers in stride on the deep ball, but shouldn't have any problems managing a West Coast offense.

Weaknesses: Davis hasn't played in many high-level games. Struggles with his deep ball at times and his arm strength has been a slow, yet steady progression throughout college. It remains to be seen whether or not he has the type of zip on his ball to hit a deep 15-yard out in the NFL."

NFL Draft Scout's Dane Brugler on Austin Davis:
"A four-year starter, Davis was a two-star quarterback recruit out of high school who received little attention from major programs, walking on at Southern Miss.

After redshirting in 2007, he earned the starting quarterback job in 2008 as a redshirt freshman (13 starts), going 261-of-454 (57.5 percent) for 3,128 yards, 23 touchdowns, eight interceptions and nine rushing scores, earning Freshman All-American honors.

Davis was again the starter in 2009 as a sophomore but missed the second half of the season with a foot injury (5 starts), finishing 108-of-156 (69.2 percent) for 1,165 yards, 10 touchdowns and two interceptions.

He returned healthy in 2010 as a junior and started all 13 games, going 278-of-442 (62.9 percent) for 3,103 yards, 20 touchdowns, six interceptions, 10 rush scores and one receiving touchdown, earning Second Team All-CUSA honors.

Davis had his best season in 2011 as a senior with 14 starts, finishing 286-of-475 (60.2 percent) for 3,496 yards, 30 touchdowns, 11 interceptions and four rushing scores, earning Second Team All-CUSA honors and leading his team to the CUSA title.

Davis, who was also an all-state baseball player in high school, won the Burlsworth Trophy this past season as the nation's most outstanding player who began his career as a walk-on. He compiled an impressive collegiate resume with 45 career starts and several school passing records, breaking many of Brett Favre's old marks.

Davis is a tough, gritty signal-caller with better than advertised mobility, but he has limited size and arm strength and does not boast many distinguishing traits. He is comfortable with his skill-set and gets the most out of his ability. Davis is built for a West Coast Offense and will battle in an NFL camp, but probably as a priority free agent.

***

Positives: A dual threat quarterback with athletic footwork and mobility. An instinctive runner with very good toughness ~ uses stiff arms and runs with good body strength. Has quick, smooth delivery with very good touch and anticipation as a passer. Has natural leadership traits and plays with his heart, willing his team to victory.

A smart and confident individual on and off the field. Plays like a veteran and executes ~ sells fakes well, doesn't force a lot and isn't afraid to throw it away. Does a nice job maneuvering in the pocket and is always a threat to run (1,375 rush yards and 25 rush scores in his career).

Very good starting experience as a four-year starter (45 career starts) with above average production ~ broke several of Brett Favre's school passing records including career pass yards (10,892), touchdown passes (83), completion percentage (61.1 percent) and total offense (12,267).

Negatives: Shorter than ideal and isn't physically imposing in any way. Limited arm strength with an unorthodox throwing motion; doesn't effectively use his body or footwork (almost like he's throwing darts). Inconsistent downfield passer and puts too much air under his throws ~ too many underthrows and streaky ball placement.

Tends to predetermine a lot of his passes and stare down targets. Wasn't asked to make a lot of defensive reads in Southern Miss' simple zone offense ~ inconsistent footwork in limited experience in his drops from under center. Suspect ball security as a runner."

-- Dane Brugler

http://nflmocks.com/2011/11/12/austin-davis-scouting-report-qb-southern-mississippi/

Every year there are some players who seemingly come out of nowhere to be selected higher than anyone expected them to, this year that player could be Southern Mississippi quarterback Austin Davis. Davis is an under-publicized name that might just shock some people in the pre-draft process. Davis plays at the same school Brett Favre played at in college and has broken some of Favres school records. Is Davis the next Brett Favre? No, but he will have a shot at making it in the N.F.L.

This Scouting report is a serious work in progress I have to watch more Austin Davis before I have a more informed opinion, but this is a start.


For all of our other scouting reports (and those ones are not works in progress) go to our scouting report page

Update: 12/3/2011

Looks like I posted this too early! Davis is a hot name today as he just ruined the Houston Cougars and Case Keenum’s hopes to make a BCS bowl, costing Conference USA millions. It was also kind of Davis’ coming out party as he threw four touchdown passes

Measurables

6’2 219 pounds

4.76 40 yard dash, 31 inch vertical, 109 inch broad jump, 6.73 3 cone drill, 4.11 20 yard shuttle.



Stats

2011:
Passing G Att Comp Pct. Yards Yards/Att TD Int Rating Att/G Yards/G
9 298 191 64.1 2147 7.2 18 8 139.17 33.1 238.6
Rushing G Att Yards Avg. TD Att/G Yards/G
9 71 217 3.06 2 7.89 24.11

2010:
Passing G Att Comp Pct. Yards Yards/Att TD Int Rating Att/G Yards/G
13 442 278 62.9 3103 7.0 20 6 134.09 34.0 238.7
Rushing G Att Yards Avg. TD Att/G Yards/G
13 145 452 3.12 10 11.15 34.77

Pros

Good athlete..good, but not great arm…has been productive with inferior talent…film room junkie (reportedly)…added 20 pounds from last year to this year in an attempt to improve arm strength…heady..moves around well in the pocket…doesn’t force a ton of throws…picks up yards on the ground, but isn’t a run first quarterback by any means…throws a pretty spiral most of the time…improved with his progressions throughout college

Cons

Doens’t have ideal quarterback height…has a pretty good arm, but doesn’t have a great arm…doesn’t stretch the field…need to see more accuracy on his down the field passes that he does make

Player comparison:

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Buffalo Bills (without the creepy beard)

I think Davis could develop into a Fitzpatrick kind of player, a guy who can run some kinds of offenses use some mobility be a guy that starts for a few years, but never really a franchise guy.

Bio

Earned second team All-Conference USA honors and was a C-USA All-Academic Team member for his successful season both on the field and in the classroom … Graduated earlier this month in business administration … Started in all 12 games and has started in all 30 games he has played in his career, missing eight contests in 2009 with a foot injury … Posted an 18-12 record as a starter … Thrown for 2,898 yards on 259-of-410 passing attempts (63.2) with 18 touchdowns and just six interceptions … Has thrown for a touchdown pass in each of the last nine games and in 27 of 30 games in his career … Has 51 career TD passes, just one behind school leaders Lee Roberts (1995-98) and Brett Favre (1987-90) … Ranks third on the school’s career passing charts with 7,191 yards … Has five multi-TD throwing games, including each of the last three contests … Tied a career-best for TD throws with four in knocking off nationally ranked UCF (11/13) … Threw 41 passes of 20 or more yards during the season, including a season-long 67-yard strike to Quentin Pierce against Tulsa (11/26) for a touchdown … Needs 102 yards to throw for over 3,000 yards for the season (the only QB to accomplish that feat; he tallied 3,128 yards in 2008) and 231 yards to become the school’s all-time leader for passing yards … Has posted 10 rushing touchdowns to give him 21 for his career, trailing Reggie Collier’s 26 (1979-82) for the most by a Southern Miss QB … Ranks third on the team in rushing with 436 yards on 132 carries … Notched second 100-yard rushing game with 111 on 17 carries and four rushing scores against Houston (11/20) … Added two TD passes to give him six total touchdowns for the contest … Named C-USA Offensive Player of the Week (11/22) for his exploits against Houston … Was Rivals.com’s C-USA’s Player of the Week following both the UCF and Houston games … A C-USA Commissioner’s List honoree for the 2009-10 academic year … Named to Athletic Director’s Honor Roll during the spring semester …

He is a backup we'll never talk about again after next season. When will this franchise apply my theory. Draft round 1 QB every single year until you hit on one.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/10/how_the_cleveland_browns_are_t.html

How Cleveland Browns are trying to develop quarterback Austin Davis and the challenges involved with it

BEREA, Ohio – Austin Davis dropped three steps, looked at his first option and worked through his progressions before targeting tight end Gary Barnidge over the middle during a recent Browns' practice.

The quarterback's arm came forward releasing nothing but air.

Barnidge caught a football thrown from Josh McCown, who stood about 15 feet in front of where Davis was simulating the rep. It's about as close as the third-string quarterback comes to running the first-unit offense.

It's the same for Johnny Manziel, who might take the occasional practice snap from starting center Alex Mack, but mostly is confined to sharing scout-team duties with Davis. Once the regular season begins, the idea of on-field development for NFL backup quarterbacks becomes nearly as imaginary as the balls Davis and Manziel throw while parroting McCown's drop.

"You can't really simulate being under center, but it's the best you can do," said Davis, the fourth-year pro who joined the Browns on Sept. 7. "It keeps you dialed in and it keeps you from losing focus.

"There's only one starter on the field and it's not like there's a rotation. You better make the most of your opportunity because you can go years without taking a real snap."

The dearth of young, quality quarterbacks is evolving into a major story around the league as they struggle to transition from high-tempo college offenses. Taking snaps under center, commanding a huddle, calling out protections and working through progressions are lost arts on many campuses.

The learning curve always has been steep for rookie quarterbacks. Nowadays, it's akin to scaling the Matterhorn. And if you're an undrafted free agent like Davis, coming from a spread offense at Southern Mississippi, it's ascending the Matterhorn in sneakers.

The Rams signed the 26-year-old in 2012 – one year after the new collective bargaining agreement reduced OTA and training-camp practice times and limited offseason interaction with coaching staffs. It's made the process of grooming a "developmental quarterback" tougher for all NFL teams.

"I've heard about quarterback schools, quarterback-specific training that used to be done in the NFL," Davis said smiling. "I wouldn't know what it's like."

Since arriving in Berea, the third stringer has taken maybe three practice snaps with the first unit while serving as Manziel's backup for the Titans game that McCown missed due to concussion.

Davis is enjoying a bit of celebrity this week because of his ties to Sunday's opponent. He spent three years with the Rams before they released him Sept. 5. He's served as the exclusive scout-team quarterback, spoken with defensive coordinator Jim O'Neil and conducted a handful of media interviews about the intel he's providing the Browns.

The 6-foot-2, 221-pounder from Ringgold, Ga., knows plenty about the St. Louis' offense. A year ago, he was running it.

Change of fortune

Davis' unlikely rise from college walk-on to Rams' starter for eight games was aided by his current team.

Former St. Louis starter Sam Bradford suffered a season-ending knee injury against the Browns last August before backup Shaun Hill was sidelined in the regular-season opener.
Browns season opener | Sunday at N.Y. Jets, 1 p.m., WOIO Ch. 19 Manziel throws, says he can play Browns from B1Austin Davis started eight games a season ago for the St. Louis Rams, winning three. He returns to St. Louis with the Browns this weekend.Associated Press

In a three-week span, Davis went from hotel valet to racecar driver. No more mental reps in practice. No more Sundays spent on the sidelines wearing an earpiece.

The entire Rams' ecosystem existed to prepare Davis for game days.

"It's amazing how quickly things can change in this game," he said. "You just have to adjust to different situations and do the best you can."

The quarterback who broke many of Brett Favre's records at Southern Miss – Davis knows the future Hall of Famer -- started eight games. He beat the Seahawks, Niners and Buccaneers relying on his athleticism, football acumen and moxie.

"I've got a strong place in my heart for Austin," Rams coach Jeff Fisher said in a conference call this week. " . . . He worked and worked and worked. He was not a 9-to-5 guy. He was so committed to spending the extra time to making himself good. He got an opportunity last year . . . and put together some good games for us and won some tough games."

Davis could not sustain his run, however. Interceptions and indecision crept into his game. He couldn't throw the deep ball with enough accuracy. The quarterback committed three fourth-quarter turnovers against the Cardinals on Nov. 9 with two of them returned for touchdowns. Fisher benched him the next week in favor of Hill.

Appearing in 10 games, Davis threw for 2,001 yards, 12 touchdowns and nine INTs while posting an 85.1 passer rating.

The Rams retooled the position in the offseason, trading for starter Nick Foles and drafting Oregon State's Sean Mannion in the third round, a move which helped make Davis expendable.

"I think about it a lot," Davis said of his time as a starter. "I think about what I did well and what I could have done better, where I can improve. It's hard to go back and watch yourself play poorly but that's what you have to do."

Back to reality

Three seasons removed from his rookie season, Davis admits he never could have started his first year in the NFL.

A dual-threat college quarterback, he needed two years to untangle the complexities of a pro-style offense. The game began to make sense just as his opportunity to play beckoned.
Cleveland Browns at Baltimore RavensCleveland Browns backup quarterback Austin Davis, right, has spent all but one game day inactive. John Kuntz, NEOMG

Every quarterback learns at his own pace. Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo believes youngsters who entered the league prior to 2011 had the advantage of time no longer afforded to quarterbacks.

The new CBA eliminated two-a-day practices in training camp. It also restricted the time coaching staffs could spend with players in the offseason, limiting the OTA periods. DeFilippo recalls working three days a week in March with Kevin O'Connell when the Browns quarterbacks' coach was a Jets' prospect in 2009.

DeFilippo helped conduct offseason "quarterback classes"

"We would go over the installation of the offense at a snail's pace," he recalled. "It was so beneficial, but you can't do that anymore."

The Browns assistant was asked if the unintended consequences of the new CBA have hindered the development of young quarterbacks. DeFilippo paused.

"I can tell you it's not helping," he said.

Browns quarterbacks spend 12-hour days at the facility. They meet in the morning, pour over the game plan, take the field for a walk-thru, eat lunch and prep for practice. After the training session, they meet again, break down practice film and do some individual study before Davis goes home to his wife, Heather.

Davis and Manziel are McCown's equals throughout the day until practice starts. Then, it's all about prepping the starters. The Browns conduct 11-on-11 sessions on one field. The starting offense gets a rack of eight plays against the scout-team defense before the roles reverse. They alternate throughout the afternoon.

The backup quarterbacks run the opponents' plays, seldom earning the chance to practice what they learn all day in meetings. It's the same all over the league. When McCown is taking snaps his understudy work behind him, pantomiming his drop back and looking for the open receiver.

"You try to use those reps as your reps and make them as live as possible and try to get better that way," Davis said.

"In my opinion mental toughness is the No. 1 quality of a good quarterback because of all the things you have to deal with and the ability to be confident in yourself when you're not getting a ton of reps or be confident in yourself after you played a bad game or two."

Browns coach Mike Pettine wants to see the NFL establish an American-based developmental league similar to the one it operated in Europe from 1991-2007. With projected revenues at $12 billion for this season, funding a 10-team D-League, where NFL franchises could send prospects, shouldn't be a financial.

Given the state of NFL quarterbacking and the obstacles impeding youngsters it seems like a prudent idea. Imagine Manziel and Davis getting to play in six to eight games instead of waiting for an injury or poor performance from McCown to see the field.

"I think it would be good," said Davis, who spent part of his offseason with quarterback tutor Todd Durkin in San Diego. "I don't know what that looks like or how it works out, but I'm all for it."

The Browns believe Davis is worth developing – whatever that term means in today's NFL. They signed him to a two-year, $4.173 million contract extension with $500,000 guaranteed less than a month after he arrived. Left unsaid is he's a reliable backup in case Manziel derails himself with further off-field problems.

"He's a self starter, smart, loves football, loves being in the building," DeFilippo said of Davis. "He's giving himself a chance to be a quarterback in this league for awhile."

Davis spends a good chunk of every day studying the habits of quarterback who's been in the league for 13 years.

The young backup quizzes McCown. He seeks advice. He searches for clues to his longevity.

"What does Josh do well?" he said rhetorically. "What makes him successful? 'Do I do that? Well, maybe I need to do that.' I try not to annoy him, but once a day I will ask him something."

Maybe Davis grows into nothing more than a career backup. But third stringers in this organization tend to get their opportunities, usually against a division rival late in the season.

And so he studies and breaks down film and waits for his chance to throw something more than an imaginary pass to Barnidge.

oh yea. waste a first round pick without giving the guy at least 2 years. we have better things to do with our first round picks than waste th.... oh wait....

Austin Davis is our backup for the rest of the season.

Can someone find out when was the last season that we didn't play all 3 backup QB's? I'm fairly confident it was in 2008, but I could bee wrong.

LMAO

I think Austin Davis is a viable starter (think Kyle Orton). IMO he is better than many who have started here, but he lacks elite qualities that are coveted everywhere else. It won't surprise me if he gets the nod because Pettine and company are fools but I won't hold that against Davis.

I looked at everything I could find on him when we signed him and I think it's one of the better signings this FO has made.

Some will call him a career backup and I agree he is better suited for that role, but in today's NFL elite QBs don't grow on trees and I would put Davis in the lower half of the next tier or the top of the one after that.

Probably right, but when your 3rd string QB is a good FA signing it really speaks to how much of a failure the season has really been.

Preaching to the choir.

Does anybody know how many years since the return have the Browns started at least 3 QBs in the same year? Utter ridiculousness. Every year we say it can't get any worse then it does. I'm numb to this whole BS.

The Rams might have the worst qb situation in the entire NFL and they cut him this year. That is who Austin Davis is.

https://twitter.com/Browns/status/672082805170421760

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...35-b83b2bd038bd

What a waste.

Oh boy, this is going to start a deadbate..LOL

You know, if this doesn't wake Manziel up, nothing will..

Manziel was punished. Start him now. We need to know if he can play and the sample is already too small.

Idiots. All of them.

As long as the Browns keep on Starting 2 3 QBS a year they will never be a playoff team.
Show me a playoff team and I will show you one starting QB.

2014 Cardinals.

(I agree with you, I just wanted to get that in there before someone else did.)

Maybe it's just me, but this just confirms what I thought of Pet. He knows he's gone and this is his way of saying "up yours' to the FO.

I think this pretty much says the plan is to move on from Johnny.

I don't think there is a plan.

This definitely has the feel of something personal.

Yeah true but Palmer went down with a injury
Their isn't any bozos in the Cards front office.everyone
Is on the same page with the QB.

I'm not sure this staff, from GM down, is capable of making a logical decision.

Cut JF if you won't play the annoying lil punk. I think this staff all goes to a room when time comes to make decisions, and trip out on acid beforehand.

I can't believe it, but somehow I felt this would happen. Unbelievable.

wow. just wow.

Steelers this year will make the playoffs

Did Pet say that Davis was well-prepared for Monday's game?

All I can do is laugh at this point. This is worse than a dumpster fire.

What did i tell y'all a while back?

it's a browns christmas tradition to start the 3rd string QB at the end of the season.

It's no wonder JFF is drinking again. Screw Pettine!

I just hope the wusey Media REALLY tackle Haslam when the season is over ! Well the season is already over ; I mean when it all ends .. I would like to see his head swell up and neck turn Red Neck Red ! lol

Not much else we can do.

This is a complete standoff with the FO. Pettine wins either way. He either gets to stay the coach or get fired and collect a check.

If I am forced to give the organization the benefit of the doubt, maybe they feel tough love is the only way Johnny will survive when dealing with his personal demons and ultimately survive in football.

I can't wait to hear Pettine's presser.

I saw this come over my phone and I was sure there would be at least 50 responses by now..

lol, there is bro. it's just spread throughout the threads.

Denver, Houston?, Jets?, Bills, Colts, Washington?, Eagles

Not sure that there is a plan but keeping JFF gives us the opportunity to trade him in the off season and potentially get something back. Even if only a 6th or 7th round draft pick.

Except the FO doesn't want to trade him.

This is an example of an entire organization not being on the same page.

We dont, the coaches do. Maybe they have seen what they need to already...