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Gilber has been a bigger bust and had a worse attitude than Johnny, yet all the posters who rip on JM 10+ times a day never say boo-peep about Gilber.
Wonder what their real motivation is? Probably because there's nothing to discuss. No one is disagreeing with the fact that Gilbert is a sad sack of crap. Nothing more needs to be said. With Johnny there are still other thoughts and differing opinions.
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worse attitude than Johnny, how you get that? what was gilbert doing in the offseason? what was the cocaine cowboy doing?
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I got it from actual quotes from players and coaches and not from guys like you. Does that help?
Oh........and quotes from Gilber himself.
Like this one when asked if was working hard to try and earn a starting position this year: "We'll see what happens."
Or, this one when asked about if K. Williams studying motivated him: "I'd rather sleep in than study."
LMAO..........the guy was drafted 14 spots higher than Johnny and you guys say he is going to have a break-out season and then give him a free pass all year long while bashing JM 10+ times a day.
More hypocrisy.
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Like this one when asked if was working hard to try and earn a starting position this year: "We'll see what happens."
Or, this one when asked about if K. Williams studying motivated him: "I'd rather sleep in than study."
Did we really draft a kid who is too cool for school? Ugh.
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I don't like to use that word bust freely...just so you know where my head is at...the day he is done with football is the day he becomes a bust.
But just about everything I agree with. The only mystery to me is what went on his rookie year for Pettine to almost apologize as he said he just learned of it when the season finished. Just curious. You are correct he put a lot of effort in getting into NFL condition this off season. But he lost ground to DeSir who spent most of the off season in Berea studying film. I wish DeSir had the physical attributes of Gilbert. Just needs more speed.
Does Gilbert have ADD? Dixlexia??? I like the effort he has put in special teams which somehow tells me he likes football his two runbacks were around the 40. Defense his first play out there he had no clue what his assignment was Gibson had to point and yell and he started running as the ball got snapped and they passed to the guy for a 10 yard gain. This is with him practicing all week for the start. Will it come to him...will he sit down with Trent in the off season and work on the knowledge and recognition part of the game?
Just cause I don't piss on him - my choice - doesn't mean I'm satisfied with his play remotely satisfied. I'm the Black Knight...Come Back - its only a Flesh Wound!
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I got it from actual quotes from players and coaches and not from guys like you. Does that help? is that right. words like compared to last year? pffft the drunken liar should have been cut by week 4. pfft. should have been suspended the last game same as gordon. if only the new gm and coaching staff treated him as harshly as they did gordon then maybe he would have got it and not be a embarrassment now!!! but no.... shanny wanted gordon so.... everyone knows pettine stayed out of the offensive side last year....
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What? LOL..........I can't follow that. I'm sorry, but man are you wasted already??? 
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Would anyone really shed a tear if Gilbert was cut and Jim O'Neill was fired?
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Would anyone really shed a tear if Gilbert was cut and Jim O'Neill was fired? You mean between toasts?
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Who is Gilberts position coach? Is it possible that his position coach baby's him? I fear that their is culture in Berea that even if You don't go all out their is no reprocussions.
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Would anyone really shed a tear if Gilbert was cut and Jim O'Neill was fired? You mean between toasts? I laughed!
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Gilbert has been a bigger bust and had a worse attitude than Johnny, yet all the posters who rip on JM 10+ times a day never say boo-peep about Gilbert.
Wonder what their real motivation is? Fixed his name for you. People probably don't bring him up because I think everyone knows and agrees that he is a complete bust. Unequivocally. The only thing to debate, at all, in regards to Gilbert is when will he get cut. Manziel, however, still has people thinking he will turn a corner. If he does, great, but everything he's shown says it isn't very likely. Go ahead and keep playing your little persecution angle though, it works for ya.
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Have you ever looked at the thread title?
Btw--------nice spin. You have a gift for it.
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Who is Gilberts position coach? Is it possible that his position coach baby's him? I fear that their is culture in Berea that even if You don't go all out their is no reprocussions. DB coach is Jeff Hafley. I don't know much about him, but when I listened to his pressers early season, he seemed like a no bs kinda guy. I think if Gilbert was being babied, he'd see the field on circumstances other than a plethora of corner back injuries. If Noone got hurt, Gilbert would solely be a special teamer. Jmo
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Have you ever looked at the thread title?
Btw--------nice spin. You have a gift for it. The original title? the one I made preseason and note it was a question form. Or the now revised title Rocky ride not getting Smoother... ??? But I don't know how that would apply in your point...was it because this became a Manziel thread at some point? I don't remember if it did or not.
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I don't think it's all that complex. Manziel plays a more critical position that gets a ton more scrutiny than any other.
As far as comparing their performance to their respective expectations? I don't know who is worse, and I don't care to investigate. Both are not performing anywhere near the minimal expectations I had due to severe maturity issues.
JFF came into the league with maturity baggage, and really hasn't shown much in the way of getting past that. I believe that he does want to grow up, just not enough to actually do anything about it.
Gilbert's issues sound like they might be more serious. There have only been these one off, unconfirmed stories about how little he cares and how big a brat he is. I just don't see the value in figuring who is the biggest loser when they're both huge losers.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
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Seems like you're trying to pick a fight where one doesn't exist.
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Really? Seems like you are. Seems like Purp was. I didn't mention his name. He clicked on my name and said this: Go ahead and keep playing your little persecution angle though, it works for ya. But yeah, I started it.  You guys are so full of it. You know.......you "long-time posters." LOL
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You're accusations of people "ignoring" the Gilbert situation while jumping on Johnny doesn't hold water. Nobody here is giving Gilbert a "get out of jail free" card or speaking in his defense. That's what I was getting at by saying you're looking for a fight where there is none. Stop playing the victim card, it's getting old. You replied to eo. Is that who you meant to reply to?
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Really? Seems like you are. Seems like Purp was. I didn't mention his name. He clicked on my name and said this: Go ahead and keep playing your little persecution angle though, it works for ya. But yeah, I started it.  You guys are so full of it. You know.......you "long-time posters." LOL You're accusations of people "ignoring" the Gilbert situation while jumping on Johnny doesn't hold water. Nobody here is giving Gilbert a "get out of jail free" card or speaking in his defense. That's what I was getting at by saying you're looking for a fight where there is none. Stop playing the victim card, it's getting old.
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Have you ever looked at the thread title?
Btw--------nice spin. You have a gift for it. Yes, I did. Did you? There's no spin there at all; it is exactly what it is. There's no point in everyone constantly beating up Gilbert because we all know and agree that he's a bust. There isn't a single person who can make even a halfway compelling argument to the contrary. On Manziel, there is room for debate. Go ahead and try to imagine a conspiracy or hypocrisy at every turn, but realize it is usually there only because you've put it there in your own mind.
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Wow. Missing posts. Wonder why?
Wonder if the guy who suggested someone was a moron got suspended?
LOL............don't think so. Different rules for different people.
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You don't enjoy life, do you? Everything is a fight, and you are always the battered person, right?
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Hey, I see arch clicked on my name for the millionth time. Bet he talked about Gilber. No way did he act like a middle school girl and insult me...........right?
Who was that guy that said arch was a great guy. Hmmmmm.....00 or was it jif?
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Hey, I see arch clicked on my name for the millionth time. Bet he talked about Gilber. No way did he act like a middle school girl and insult me...........right?
Who was that guy that said arch was a great guy. Hmmmmm.....00 or was it jif? Dude, you're half the reason I come here. Hearing you whine about others that do exactly what you do? Hearing you complain about exactly what you do? It's hilarious. Yeah, it gets tedious at times, but I like watching a train wreck, and I love watching 2 faced posters bury themselves. Your double standards are so laughable..........griping about people calling management names, then you go on calling others names. And all the "gilber" posts you've made, while you gripe about it. And just today you went off on "troll" and "agenda" posters and how you don't like that, yet, you dude, are the worst offender in terms of accusing others of having an agenda. It's enormously entertaining. The concerning part is you don't seem to realize it yourself. Oh, I should add: I see vers, who has me on ignore, apparently DOES read my posts. Vers - you constantly talk about middle school girls. Why is that? You accuse others of acting like that.........but, for the life of you, you don't see that in yourself? Amazing.
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you're acting like a middle schooler calling one of our players gilber, though.
i don't get it. how can you stress to people to act mature when you're being just as childish?
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you're acting like a middle schooler calling one of our players gilber, though.
i don't get it. how can you stress to people to act mature when you're being just as childish? QFT
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Did arch make another football post? Or, did he get on me again?
The girls are at it again.
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Gilber? I explained why I call him that. What's the big deal?
Is it worse than Johnny Drunk? Johnny Punk? Johnny Bust?
Seriously?
Look Swish.............I was talking about Gilber. Other people couldn't deal w/it and made it about me. I expect that from the Middle School Girl's Club on this board. I didn't expect it from you.
You wanna talk about the thread.......or join the club?
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Did arch make another football post? Or, did he get on me again?
The girls are at it again. Oh, so you can call me a girl? That's fine. I know plenty of girls that have more fortitude than you. By the way, nice "football" post.
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