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I understand completely..and agree with 100% of what you just said..not a thread derailleur at all.

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maybe i'm alone in this, but i don't trust Saudi's in general. i know it's a generalization, but i don't know if you guys are aware of the amount of crap they've done while soldiers when in iraq.


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Wrong.

To say i'm more scared of their looks than their function is throwing mud. i know exactly what they're used for.

and you cops have been using your toys from the military to do everything from issue warrants to knocking down doors from drug bust of some low level drug dealers, hell, thats by your own admittance.

let's not play innocent. you guys love running around in ACU's, or those marine combat uniforms like you're playing soldier. we've all seen the videos.

need and want are two different things.


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maybe i'm alone in this, but i don't trust Saudi's in general. i know it's a generalization, but i don't know if you guys are aware of the amount of crap they've done while soldiers when in iraq.


Right now, I don't trust many musilms at all, and it doesn't matter what their nationality is. I worked with a guy from Afghanistan, and he was a nut job. Back then, he only hated (and swore to kill on site) Russians. I don't know what happened to the guy. I just hope that muslims start to call out their own, and push the radical ones to become peaceful. This will never end until that happens.


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those marine combat uniforms

Well he is a Marine poke

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Did anyone listen to barry just now?? Why is it a nut shoots up some poor people at PP..and right away from them and media..TERRORISM.

This freaking mooslim terrorist commits a real act of terroism..and its pushed as welll..we dont know at this time if its work place violence or something else..

Did somebody hear the shooter mumble something about baby parts? Because that would totally clear everything up.:/

one other thing he said..the guns where purchased legally..wtf could you do that wouldve prevented this???

Yeah barry dont let no good crisis go to waste.

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Did anyone listen to barry just now??


Yes, nothing new. If it doesn't match his agenda, it's downplayed.


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I just hope that muslims start to call out their own, and push the radical ones to become peaceful. This will never end until that happens.


Well, the Council on American-Islamic Relations went on TV last night and denounced this act of terrorism. I initially thought that was a good sign. What concerns me is that CAIR representatives rushed to speak to Farook's family members before law enforcement had a chance to.


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My final take (guess) on what happened is this...

The leader and his wife are terrorists who put together everything they needed to hit a target and hit it hard.

He went to that party and something or someone ticked him off. Witnesses said he stormed out of the place extremely angry.

He goes back to his wife and tells her plan-A is off, we have a new target and we are gonna hit it now.

They were prepared, had what they needed, got dressed, locked and loaded, and did this evil deed.

CNN is saying this couple left their baby with Grandma and went on Jihad! Rizwan Farook and Tashfeen Malik were committed Terrorists and were going to hit something very soon. I believe he got mad and changed it to this place.

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Damn, I should have tuned into Al Jazeera TV last night instead of CNN.


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i'll go with domestic terrorist.

but what makes you think they planned all along to hit anything? you know how easy it is to get that type of gear in a short amount of time?


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Now officials are reporting that the couple's home was turned into a "bomb making factory". A neighbor said that they've been acting "really suspicious" the last few days, but she didn't want to report anything because she was afraid of being accused of racial profiling.


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i guess we got too caught up with this story:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...-united-states/

nobody is talking about this shooting. wonder why.


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nobody wants to discuss motive of the shooters, or anything of this nature.


The various media outlets, certain politicians, and law enforcement agencies are pushing the gun control canard to avoid calling this what it pretty obviously is ... home-grown jihad.


Lets say the are home-grown.....currently any legal US citizen can go out and purchase these weapons very easily. So even if these extremest plan to do acts of terrorism they are legally allowed to purchase the equipment/weapons to harm people

How do you propose to fix this?

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you can't.

since the weapons is purchased legally, like all the other ones. We as americans just have to wait our turn to get shot.


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I read that some of the firearms were purchased by a roommate or someone else, legally, and used by the shooters. I've yet to confirm there was a third party involved, the details of this psycho attack are very slim. With the shooters names, sound Muslim for sure. Terrorist attack, or since they were citizens, domestic terror I'd assume the label would be.

Yet another sad event while Obama continues to preach gun control, no terrorist risk/threat and the rest of his crap.

We need a real leader.

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here you guys go with this "it's obama" crap again.

Dawg...if you have a pistol on you right now, i can still run up on you and pop you before you even reach for it.

having a gun doesn't protect you. yes, these losers go after soft targets, but the individual crimes that go on every half an hour, some people had guns on them and still got popped before firing a shot.

why? because having a gun does what if you aren't aware of your surroundings?

you can have a gun in the car with you. if you're stopped at a light, i can pop you before you even saw it happening. it happens everyday.

stop blaming obama for us as individual americans acting dumb as hell.


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I read that some of the firearms were purchased by a roommate or someone else, legally, and used by the shooters. I've yet to confirm there was a third party involved, the details of this psycho attack are very slim. With the shooters names, sound Muslim for sure. Terrorist attack, or since they were citizens, domestic terror I'd assume the label would be.

Yet another sad event while Obama continues to preach gun control, no terrorist risk/threat and the rest of his crap.

We need a real leader.


If there is no gun control at the government level to limit these weapons to the normal population. How do you plan to prevent these incidents in the future?

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i guess we got too caught up with this story:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...-united-states/

nobody is talking about this shooting. wonder why.


dont beat around the bush...spit it out

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and this is the thing. we as americans can run for office.

if you think you can do a better job, be a politician. or do SOMETHING.

sorry bro, but people complain about leadership and don't even know what being a leader means, or can't lead themselves.

"WE NEED A LEADER!!! no me, though, i dunno how to lead. but we need somebody!!!"


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i guess we got too caught up with this story:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...-united-states/

nobody is talking about this shooting. wonder why.


dont beat around the bush...spit it out


I'm not, i genuinely have no idea why.


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i guess we got too caught up with this story:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk...-united-states/

nobody is talking about this shooting. wonder why.


dont beat around the bush...spit it out




I'm not, i genuinely have no idea why.


I have an idea but its not PC, and I don't feel like any deep arguments today nanner nanner

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I just hope that muslims start to call out their own, and push the radical ones to become peaceful. This will never end until that happens.


Well, the Council on American-Islamic Relations went on TV last night and denounced this act of terrorism. I initially thought that was a good sign. What concerns me is that CAIR representatives rushed to speak to Farook's family members before law enforcement had a chance to.


That's BS. If the CAIR really wanted to do something about Islamic extremists they'd be headed to Syria and Iraq to fight ISIS right now. And those that can't go to fight, well they would be turning in those showing support and sympathy to the terrorist groups like Isis.

But instead they all come here to live free and to get away from their own dumpster fires and expect the U.S. to send our troops to fight their wars. Talking heads from CAIR needs to stop and real action from CAIR needs to begin.


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you can't.

since the weapons is purchased legally, like all the other ones. We as americans just have to wait our turn to get shot.


I agree you can't. And multi-victim shooting incidents are becoming an every day happening.

Before I get back to work; there are a couple of things that I have not seen addressed or I missed.

-They said on the scanner that they ran his name about a week ago and nothing came up on any "list", but they definitely knew something about him or had some intel on him.

-there were reports from witnesses who said they saw 3 with long rifles. Is the third subject the one who ran and was captured or is he/she still missing?

-Neighbors said that the couple had recently moved in the apartment and were receiving lots of packages and working in the garage well into the night. The neighbor said that there would be 3 or 4 people hanging out in the garage.

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If there is no gun control at the government level to limit these weapons to the normal population. How do you plan to prevent these incidents in the future?


All weapons MFG's want war and chaos. It works for their bottom lines. It's all about greed. The NRA does their bidding for them like an anonymous robot thinking they are doing all American's a favor that allows anyone in the U.S. to get their hands on an assault rifle and ammo.

It's only going to get worse until we all wise up to the real cause.....GREED.


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I just hope that muslims start to call out their own, and push the radical ones to become peaceful. This will never end until that happens.


Well, the Council on American-Islamic Relations went on TV last night and denounced this act of terrorism. I initially thought that was a good sign. What concerns me is that CAIR representatives rushed to speak to Farook's family members before law enforcement had a chance to.


That's BS. If the CAIR really wanted to do something about Islamic extremists they'd be headed to Syria and Iraq to fight ISIS right now. And those that can't go to fight, well they would be turning in those showing support and sympathy to the terrorist groups like Isis.

But instead they all come here to live free and to get away from their own dumpster fires and expect the U.S. to send our troops to fight their wars. Talking heads from CAIR needs to stop and real action from CAIR needs to begin.


Wow, I didn't expect that coming from you. thumbsup


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The neighbor said that there would be 3 or 4 people hanging out in the garage.


Shame on the neighbor for not calling it into the authorities for a quick look see.


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The neighbor said that there would be 3 or 4 people hanging out in the garage.


Shame on the neighbor for not calling it into the authorities for a quick look see.


and then it'd be racial profiling, and a huge payday.

it's a lose/lose.


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As an FYI, CAIR is part of the Muslim Brotherhood...so there is that.


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A young girl walking along a mountain path to her grandmother's house heard a rustle at her feet. Looking down, she saw a snake, but before she could react, the snake spoke to her.

"I am about to die," he said. "It's too cold for me up here, and I am freezing. There is no food in these mountains, and I am starving. Please put me under your coat and take me with you."

"No," the girl replied. "I know your kind. You are a rattlesnake. And if I pick you up, you will bite me and your bite is poisonous."

"No, no," the snake said. "If you help me, you will be my best friend. I will treat you differently."

The young girl sat down on a rock for a moment to rest and think things over. She looked at the beautiful markings on the snake and she had to admit he was the most beautiful snake she had ever seen.

Suddenly, she said, "I believe you. I will save you. All living things deserve to be treated with kindness."

She then reached over, put the snake gently under her coat and continued toward her grandmother's house.

Within a moment, she felt a sharp pain in her side. The snake had bitten her!

"How could you do this to me?" she cried. "You promised that you would not bite me, and I trusted you!"

"You knew what I was when you picked me up," he hissed as he slithered away.


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The neighbor said that there would be 3 or 4 people hanging out in the garage.


Shame on the neighbor for not calling it into the authorities for a quick look see.


meh, its not uncommon for me to have 3 or 4 friends over working in the garage having a beer or two. Nothing out of the ordinary, I bet it happens all across the country.

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just a general question about registering guns.

How will registering a gun prevent things like this?


Bingo Buddy!

Each and every one of the Terrorist's guns were legally purchased and REGISTERED!

Once again the Bleeding Hearts offer solutions that only punish the law abiding citizens!

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everybody is a law abiding citizen.

until they all of a sudden, aren't.


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CBS news just said a source is saying the suspects were viewing ISIS propaganda on the web.


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CBS news just said a source is saying the suspects were viewing ISIS propaganda on the web.


no surprise there

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The neighbor said that there would be 3 or 4 people hanging out in the garage.


Shame on the neighbor for not calling it into the authorities for a quick look see.


meh, its not uncommon for me to have 3 or 4 friends over working in the garage having a beer or two. Nothing out of the ordinary, I bet it happens all across the country.


You have nothing to hide then right? Would you rather see more dead in mass shootings or have your feathers ruffled while pounding beers in the garage?


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The neighbor said that there would be 3 or 4 people hanging out in the garage.


Shame on the neighbor for not calling it into the authorities for a quick look see.


meh, its not uncommon for me to have 3 or 4 friends over working in the garage having a beer or two. Nothing out of the ordinary, I bet it happens all across the country.


You have nothing to hide then right? Would you rather see more dead in mass shootings or have your feathers ruffled while pounding beers in the garage?


be realistic. without a warrant, they wasn't gonna find anything anyway.

and then on top of the shooting, they maybe would've waited until after their big pay day for racial profiling.


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Erik, what i tell you.

Them Saudi's ain't......forgot can't cuss on the boards.


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The neighbor said that there would be 3 or 4 people hanging out in the garage.


Shame on the neighbor for not calling it into the authorities for a quick look see.


meh, its not uncommon for me to have 3 or 4 friends over working in the garage having a beer or two. Nothing out of the ordinary, I bet it happens all across the country.


You have nothing to hide then right? Would you rather see more dead in mass shootings or have your feathers ruffled while pounding beers in the garage?


The Police can not confront you inside your garage without a search warrant. They can not act on the word of a squealer rat neighbor who can be arrested themselves for filing a false report and can be sued by you in civil court.

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thats what i was trying to tell him.

imagine what weapons and gear they could've got with free money to spend.


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