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a lot to lose like what, their guns?

there's a movement, but it's not as big as the people who don't care about it either way.

you can risk your family. that's your right.

i will not.

my right to own a gun does not trump me being a dumbass and risking my daughters life over something like that.

my daughters > guns.

if you have a different opinion. thats great, have fun.


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if the government wanted our guns, they would've already taken it.


They do want to take them, but they know they can't. If they day ever comes that they attempt to forcibly take them, the idea of America is over anyway.

The idea now is to make them extremely hard to get, or prohibitively expensive to keep. Once again, would you want to live in a country where the only people with guns are the government or criminals?


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Originally Posted By: ErikInHell
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if the government wanted our guns, they would've already taken it.


They do want to take them, but they know they can't. If they day ever comes that they attempt to forcibly take them, the idea of America is over anyway.

The idea now is to make them extremely hard to get, or prohibitively expensive to keep. Once again, would you want to live in a country where the only people with guns are the government or criminals?


i already mentioned its too many weapons for the government to do anything about it at this point, i guess you missed that part.

and i already have.

it was very nice. drive as fast as i want on the autobahn, could drink on the train with my boys and not get in trouble, groceries were cheaper, and the women were hotter.


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Rights are rarely taken away all at once, where people will universally protest ..... they are taken piece by piece, so that few notice, and those who complain are thought of as unreasonable or paranoid.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
my daughters > guns.


And if they ever forcibly confiscate guns, they could also forcibly confiscate your daughters.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
if the government wanted our guns, they would've already taken it.


I was commenting on this statement. They do want them, but they can't take them. There would be too much trouble over that.

If they can erode our right over time, they will do that also.


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your under this impression that we live in a free country.

there's already tons of stuff that are against the law in this country. you're under this impression that guns is a top priority, when the fact of the matter is that we are already controlled and moved like cattle here.

we have rights that other countries don't have. countries have rights that we as americans don't have. so this notion that they are taking things piece by piece is paranoia, simply because we was never a truly free country in the first place.

hell, no country is.

the quality of living is better in Germany, for ME, thats my opinion. i will gladly give up weapons for that kind of lifestyle.

for you, it's different, thats fine, as well.

and i don't wanna hear about anything, when we have crap like the patriot act.

freedom...lol.

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my daughters > guns.


And if they ever forcibly confiscate guns, they could also forcibly confiscate your daughters.


and if that happens, you're right, we won't be living in america anymore.

but i don't live my life worried about that, because i don't have to. i don't live in the middle east.


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forget it u dont read what is in the post..you cherry pick a thought and not the whole message...and make dumbass jokes about it Aw forget it u dont get it anyway.

I'll go back to my own world yours is not real bright.

conspiracy stuff..thats what u got from my post thumbsdown

We can just stick to to other stuff.

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if you're gonna continue posting about not talking to me anymore, then do it.


i won't miss you. i promise.


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You say this... so this notion that they are taking things piece by piece is paranoia

and then drop this...i don't wanna hear about anything, when we have crap like the patriot act.

man wake up..it is being done in increments.

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I said this topic...quit ACTING like a dimwit

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want to say sorry to the other posters in this thread..clogged it with stupidity and it wont happen again.

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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/...l-never-forget/

Wonder if the poor couple in this story wished they was armed.

And bubba I'm armed to the gills have ccw and carry everywhere..but I guess someone could just run right up and kill me:/ if they wanted to.

My wife calls me paranoid because I'm constantly watching my surroundings..I call it being prudent.
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Truth is, the more we argue and divide ourselves as a nation, the more frequent these attacks will become. And yes, the media is responsible to a large extent for the biased reporting and stories they choose to make non stories. A nation divided......


Yes we are a nation divided and our only hope for our chil...

Oh look, a squirrel.


Since you continuously make light of loss of life, I will consider this an irrelevant and greatly immature comment to be disregarded by those who actually think.


In other words we as a nation have attention span of a gnat and are more often than not misdirected to what is really important by the news media, political leaders and anyone else with skin in the game.

I tend to go with a lighter approach as I find you bickering with someone solves nothing as no one ever really changes anyone else's mind. I just say my piece and move on. I don't have time for bickering.

My apologies to you, I will no longer bother you as I'm not serious enough and lack your oh so thoughtful approach.



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Back to the topic, the female pledged allegiance to ISIS on facebook prior to the shooting.


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Sorry I didn't catch up with eight plus pages, but it's confirmed they're related to ISIS and add in another lie from our POTUS about there being no ISIS domestic threat.

At this point, if you believe anything coming outta our Muslims president's mouth, I'm sorry for being blunt - but you're a sucker. We all are at risk because our POTUS doesn't believe, or doesn't care, that his fellow, radicalized jihadist buddies are drooling to massacre us.

What a F'N joke!

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Back to the topic, the female pledged allegiance to ISIS on facebook prior to the shooting.


Is el-presidente' still suggesting workplace violence?


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Has ever told the truth about anything? superconfused

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last I saw he was..

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is like saying that a drunk driver only drives drunk because there are too many cars. Access is not the major problem.
It's exactly like saying a drunk driver has access to his car.

Even with that he'd have to register it yearly.

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Sorry I didn't catch up with eight plus pages, but it's confirmed they're related to ISIS and add in another lie from our POTUS about there being no ISIS domestic threat.

At this point, if you believe anything coming outta our Muslims president's mouth, I'm sorry for being blunt - but you're a sucker. We all are at risk because our POTUS doesn't believe, or doesn't care, that his fellow, radicalized jihadist buddies are drooling to massacre us.

What a F'N joke!


What's really weird is a day or 2 ago the president said there was no risk of isis attacking in our country.

I didn't bother to read the article, but that's what the headline said.......and now I can't find any article about it at all.

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is like saying that a drunk driver only drives drunk because there are too many cars. Access is not the major problem.
It's exactly like saying a drunk driver has access to his car.

Even with that he'd have to register it yearly.


What would registering a gun do to prevent someone from shooting? I don't get it.

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/03/politics/barack-obama-isis/

Quote:
"ISIL will not pose an existential threat to us. They are a dangerous organization like al Qaeda was, but we have hardened our defenses," Obama told CBS. "The American people should feel confident that, you know, we are going to be able to defend ourselves and make sure that, you know, we have a good holiday and go about our lives."


He's made other comments about it too. His lies and weak leadership is gleaming with disappointment. And unfortunately, Christian/American lives are at risk because of his lack of care or total blindness/lack of common sense and/or leadership.

He needs to be Syria's president.

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Yeah, that was the headline.

My computer must be broke.

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so i should get waterboarded if my family in turkey did something stupid?


No, but I'd definitely be asking you about it. Now if they did something stupid here and you know and didn't say anything...what would be the consequence for that?
Isn't that conspiracy to commit murder or something?

And I didn't say waterboarded, what I meant was thoroughly investigate.


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I think this entire gun control deadbate is a waste of time. And here's why I say that:

Mass shootings, gang violence, accidental death by firearm... all of it is the price our society pays for the rights of some to legally own guns. It can't be helped, it can't be avoided. And it's never going to change. So there's absolutely nothing TO do. Nothing.

Death is the price of freedom. Quit bitching, pay up and move on. And pay again tomorrow. And Sunday. And Monday. And...

You see... it's not a one-time lump sum payment. This particular freedom is rented on the installment plan- and sooner or later, the rent always comes due. In this case, the price is wet streets and dead bodies.

For me, it's as simple as that.


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Officials tell CNN pledge to ISIS' Baghdadi was made on Facebook as attack was happening http://cnn.it/1jDvlpP


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BREAKING: Officials believe female #SanBernardino attacker pledged allegiance to ISIS leader http://cnn.it/1jDvlpP

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Yeah and to think they could have been stopped if the neighbor that noticed suspicious behavior going on in their garage had called the authorities. These lunatics need to be stopped before they act.


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I think this entire gun control deadbate is a waste of time. And here's why I say that:

Mass shootings, gang violence, accidental death by firearm... all of it is the price our society pays for the rights of some to legally own guns. It can't be helped, it can't be avoided. And it's never going to change. So there's absolutely nothing TO do. Nothing.

Death is the price of freedom. Quit bitching, pay up and move on. And pay again tomorrow. And Sunday. And Monday. And...

You see... it's not a one-time lump sum payment. This particular freedom is rented on the installment plan- and sooner or later, the rent always comes due. In this case, the price is wet streets and dead bodies.

For me, it's as simple as that.


Clem you and I may not see eye to eye on somethings..probably not even this issue but damn good post.

Believe it or not I read and reread your stuff..and while you may not change my opinion I love seeing things from a differing perspective and thinking....well I dont agree but at least its well thought it and expressed that way..Im glad to have had even if its been very limited..discussion with you.

and can see why a lot of people respect you on here..

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j/c....

The Situation Room Verified account
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Officials tell CNN pledge to ISIS' Baghdadi was made on Facebook as attack was happening http://cnn.it/1jDvlpP


The Situation Room Verified account
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BREAKING: Officials believe female #SanBernardino attacker pledged allegiance to ISIS leader http://cnn.it/1jDvlpP

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Yeah and to think they could have been stopped if the neighbor that noticed suspicious behavior going on in their garage had called the authorities. These lunatics need to be stopped before they act.


N I dont think it wouldve been...but we can agree on this...These lunatics need to be stopped

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Yeah and to think they could have been stopped if the neighbor that noticed suspicious behavior going on in their garage had called the authorities. These lunatics need to be stopped before they act.


If only there wasn't a certain segment of our society that tries to destroy anyone that does anything that can be construed as racist, she might have called.


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j/c....

The Situation Room Verified account
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Officials tell CNN pledge to ISIS' Baghdadi was made on Facebook as attack was happening http://cnn.it/1jDvlpP


The Situation Room Verified account
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BREAKING: Officials believe female #SanBernardino attacker pledged allegiance to ISIS leader http://cnn.it/1jDvlpP

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Yeah and to think they could have been stopped if the neighbor that noticed suspicious behavior going on in their garage had called the authorities. These lunatics need to be stopped before they act.


N I dont think it wouldve been...but we can agree on this...These lunatics need to be stopped


Yes, I think it could have been prevented.

And Eric it takes one to know one.


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By going to a garage?? superconfused because of noisy neighbors superconfused

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Takes one to know one what? Are you trying to imply something?


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Takes one to know one what? Are you trying to imply something?


Sorry, that didn't come out right. Not directed at you.

You are right there is a certain segment of society that pull the race card on everything. IMO they are as much a racist as who they are calling out.


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By going to a garage?? superconfused because of noisy neighbors superconfused


Who said they we're noisy and who said the authorities would directly go in before doing a surveillance?

The neighbor noticed suspicious people hanging around their garage alot.

IMO it could have been stopped if the authorities had been called. So get over it. Geez


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Interesting article here: http://www.vox.com/2015/12/4/9849524/gun-race-statistics

It says white males make up the largest group of gun owners here in the U.S. Okay, I can go with that, as obviously, there are more white males than minority males.

However - how do they know? Oh, cause gun owners report, or are know, to have guns. Okay. What about all the illegal guns that no one knows about?

Anyway, about 3/4 down on the link is a video. Watch it. Interesting. But, at about the 48 second mark it shows a graphic of deaths in the u.s. Cops kill about 1.4%. Homicides are 31%. Accidents are about 1%. MASS SHOOTINGS account for about 1.5%. Suicides account for 63%.

I found that interesting.

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