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Garbage time…oh wait, it's been that way since halftime.


It's been going on for a while now. I don't think it's been since halftime.


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Watching Austin Davis play QB makes me wish Spergeon Wynn was back under center for the Browns.


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Like pet said, it's 'fluid'.


I thought it was more of a solid.


Runny maybe?


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Like pet said, it's 'fluid'.


I thought it was more of a solid.


No, too much stool softener will make it fluid.


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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


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And there it is: Dieken just said "A lot of guys getting their varsity letters today." LMAO


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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


Unless we surprise ourselves against the 9ers, I don't see a win on the schedule no matter who is playing.


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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


I would like to see him ANYWHERE but Cleveland next year. The circus must stop.


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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


One problem with that: Goff and Lynch are Juniors, and even though Cook is a senior, he's hurt his throwing shoulder and will probably fall in the draft because of it. And unless you run a 4-3, there really is no player worth taking #1.

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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


Unless we surprise ourselves against the 9ers, I don't see a win on the schedule no matter who is playing.


Lets hope so. We don't have much to offer a coach or GM. Having the first pick at least gives them that. Hopefully, that plus a TON of money can gets us a decent GM and HC. I don't expect great, I'll settle for good and solid.


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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


One problem with that: Goff and Lynch are Juniors, and even though Cook is a senior, he's hurt his throwing shoulder and will probably fall in the draft because of it. And unless you run a 4-3, there really is no player worth taking #1.


Guys rarely go back to school if they are the guaranteed first overall pick (Andrew Luck is the exception).

And who knows, we could have a 4-3 next year. . .

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Having the first pick would probably be the worst thing for us.

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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


One problem with that: Goff and Lynch are Juniors, and even though Cook is a senior, he's hurt his throwing shoulder and will probably fall in the draft because of it. And unless you run a 4-3, there really is no player worth taking #1.


We run a 4-3 now. Almost every play we have 4 down linemen. We could use a serious ELITE pass rusher. But I'd still like the best QB on the board. Either that or make a trade for one like Rivers or Stafford.


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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


why?


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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


One problem with that: Goff and Lynch are Juniors, and even though Cook is a senior, he's hurt his throwing shoulder and will probably fall in the draft because of it. And unless you run a 4-3, there really is no player worth taking #1.


We run a 4-3 now. Almost every play we have 4 down linemen. We could use a serious ELITE pass rusher. But I'd still like the best QB on the board. Either that or make a trade for one like Rivers or Stafford.


Detroit confuses me, how is it with a guy like Stafford and another guy like Johnson do you lose so much?


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Do you really think it's QB play that's killing us? IF we get Josh Gordon back next year and pair him with TPryor...I think any QB would look good.

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Erving got benched.

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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


One problem with that: Goff and Lynch are Juniors, and even though Cook is a senior, he's hurt his throwing shoulder and will probably fall in the draft because of it. And unless you run a 4-3, there really is no player worth taking #1.


We run a 4-3 now. Almost every play we have 4 down linemen. We could use a serious ELITE pass rusher. But I'd still like the best QB on the board. Either that or make a trade for one like Rivers or Stafford.


Nah..you run a hybrid 3-4, if it were a true 4-3, Kruger wouldn't be standing up.

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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


One problem with that: Goff and Lynch are Juniors, and even though Cook is a senior, he's hurt his throwing shoulder and will probably fall in the draft because of it. And unless you run a 4-3, there really is no player worth taking #1.


We run a 4-3 now. Almost every play we have 4 down linemen. We could use a serious ELITE pass rusher. But I'd still like the best QB on the board. Either that or make a trade for one like Rivers or Stafford.


Rivers just signed a huge extension, he's not going anywhere. Stafford has been good since that Cooter guy took over.

Pipe dream: Drew Brees might be a free agent.

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Do you really think it's QB play that's killing us? IF we get Josh Gordon back next year and pair him with TPryor...I think any QB would look good.


Because Terrelle Pryor is a proven NFL receiver.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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Do you really think it's QB play that's killing us? IF we get Josh Gordon back next year and pair him with TPryor...I think any QB would look good.


Because Terrelle Pryor is a proven NFL receiver.


So proven we signed him and left him inactive for today…why not bring in a guy who could contribute?


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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


why?


Why don't I like him? He's too short. In his own words he can't see much in the pocket, so he HAS to run out of the pocket to throw. He's to small, so he is an injury waiting to happen. He doesn't put in the work that is required to be a franchise QB. He tries to get by on doing just enough.
He roughed his GF up after a day out drinking. I don't like guys that rough up women. He would rather party than play.
He thinks because of his celebrity he doesn't have to follow rules or work on his game. Finally, he is a HUGE distraction. The hype that follows him distracts the team and is not worth it.


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Do you really think it's QB play that's killing us? IF we get Josh Gordon back next year and pair him with TPryor...I think any QB would look good.


Because Terrelle Pryor is a proven NFL receiver.


So proven we signed him and left him inactive for today…why not bring in a guy who could contribute?


None of our players contribute.

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Do you really think it's QB play that's killing us? IF we get Josh Gordon back next year and pair him with TPryor...I think any QB would look good.


Because Terrelle Pryor is a proven NFL receiver.


So proven we signed him and left him inactive for today…why not bring in a guy who could contribute?


Thats just not how Farmer does things...see Dwayne Bowe.

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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


One problem with that: Goff and Lynch are Juniors, and even though Cook is a senior, he's hurt his throwing shoulder and will probably fall in the draft because of it. And unless you run a 4-3, there really is no player worth taking #1.


We run a 4-3 now. Almost every play we have 4 down linemen. We could use a serious ELITE pass rusher. But I'd still like the best QB on the board. Either that or make a trade for one like Rivers or Stafford.


Rivers just signed a huge extension, he's not going anywhere. Stafford has been good since that Cooter guy took over.

Pipe dream: Drew Brees might be a free agent.


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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


One problem with that: Goff and Lynch are Juniors, and even though Cook is a senior, he's hurt his throwing shoulder and will probably fall in the draft because of it. And unless you run a 4-3, there really is no player worth taking #1.


We run a 4-3 now. Almost every play we have 4 down linemen. We could use a serious ELITE pass rusher. But I'd still like the best QB on the board. Either that or make a trade for one like Rivers or Stafford.


Nah..you run a hybrid 3-4, if it were a true 4-3, Kruger wouldn't be standing up.


We play 4 guys with their hands in the dirt and all are rushing.... that is a 4-3. No matter how you slice it.


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Meathead won't be coming back. Even if he did he will be a shadow of what he was having not played in almost 2 seasons.


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Originally Posted By: SunDawg
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Do you really think it's QB play that's killing us? IF we get Josh Gordon back next year and pair him with TPryor...I think any QB would look good.


Because Terrelle Pryor is a proven NFL receiver.


So proven we signed him and left him inactive for today…why not bring in a guy who could contribute?


Thats just not how Farmer does things...see Dwayne Bowe.


Nobody sees Dwayne Bowe! rofl Anywhere!


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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


One problem with that: Goff and Lynch are Juniors, and even though Cook is a senior, he's hurt his throwing shoulder and will probably fall in the draft because of it. And unless you run a 4-3, there really is no player worth taking #1.


We run a 4-3 now. Almost every play we have 4 down linemen. We could use a serious ELITE pass rusher. But I'd still like the best QB on the board. Either that or make a trade for one like Rivers or Stafford.


Rivers just signed a huge extension, he's not going anywhere. Stafford has been good since that Cooter guy took over.

Pipe dream: Drew Brees might be a free agent.


Doesn't play well in cold weather unfortunately.


Neither does anyone else.

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I'm hoping we don't see Johnny at all. First I don't like the idiot and second we really really need to lose out. We MUST draft a QB next year. HAVE to. The higher the pick the better.


why?


Why don't I like him? He's too short. In his own words he can't see much in the pocket, so he HAS to run out of the pocket to throw. He's to small, so he is an injury waiting to happen. He doesn't put in the work that is required to be a franchise QB. He tries to get by on doing just enough.
He roughed his GF up after a day out drinking. I don't like guys that rough up women. He would rather party than play.
He thinks because of his celebrity he doesn't have to follow rules or work on his game. Finally, he is a HUGE distraction. The hype that follows him distracts the team and is not worth it.


no. why bother with the draft?


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