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Dwayne Bowe caught a pass for the Cleveland Browns

By Dan Hanzus
Around the NFL Writer
Published: Nov. 6, 2015 at 07:56 p.m.
Updated: Nov. 6, 2015 at 08:19 p.m.

The moon landing. The fall of the Berlin Wall. The O.J. verdict. The Seinfeld finale. When a moment is truly huge, you always remember where you were when it happened.

So I ask you, dear reader: Where were you when Dwayne Bowe caught his first pass with the Cleveland Browns?

In case you missed it, here it is, captured for posterity:

Bowe actually finished the game with three catches for 31 yards on five targets. Pedestrian totals, sure, but undeniable progress for the veteran wideout. This is the part of the story where we remind you that the Browns gave Bowe a two-year, $12.5 million contract in March that included $9 million guaranteed.

That's a lot of scratch for three catches through nine games. Thursday night was only the fourth time Bowe was even active this season, so it's safe to say that Browns coach Mike Pettine doesn't have a warm place in his heart for the former Chiefs playmaker.

That said, is this clearly lesser version of Bowe significantly worse than what the Browns are running out at wide receiver this season? Did we watch what Taylor Gabriel did against the Bengals? It's grim stuff.

General manager Ray Farmer made a massive, employment-endangering decision to sign Bowe. Now Bowe is the responsibility of coach Mike Pettine, whose own job is in serious peril. In a few months, all three men could share the same descriptor: Former member of the Cleveland Browns.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...leveland-browns

Bowe's agent called. He wants a raise

Purp could put up a clock, like the national debt clock that counts down Bowe's relative cost with each reception. It wouldn't even be a drain on memory as it would only have to update quarterly.

I don't see any real point in cutting Bow at this point. He has been hurt for a few games, and then not played. My feeling is to start playing the guy and see if he has anything left in the tank.

If we are going to cut anybody, maybe Gabriel needs to be the target...shoot, he had passes bouncing off his facemask the other night for crying out loud..

To be fair so did Benjamin.

Apparently hobbits can't catch. We need wookies.

Point noted....and to be a bit fair to both, the ball from Johnny gets there faster then it does from Josh. Johnny can spin it pretty good.

the fact that bowe actually contributed was shocking to say the least.

*tin foil hat* what if it was the plan all along to save Bowe for when Manziel takes over?

I wake and baked, i'm sorry.

I don't think it was a plan. I think is was simply a matter of people being out with injuries.

At any rate, I hope Bowe is ready to go and starts to pay dividends.

Gabriel had three drops.

Again, why not?

Originally Posted By: OrangeHelmet
Other practice squad WR players over 6'2"'s available;
Austin Hill - NE; Shakin Phillips - Steelers; Andrew Turzilli - 49's; DiAndre Campbell - 49's; Nick Toon - Rams; Daniel Brown - Ravens; Jake Kumerow - Bengals; Dezmin Lewis - Bills; Jordan Leslie - Jags; Rashad Lawrence - Jags ----
And that's not all of them ----- REPLACE BOWE!!!!!

Miles Austin would have x10 cheaper and x10 more productive. Bottom line.

Hard to argue that point.

So 20 catches for 300 yards?

compared to bowe thats pro bowl production.

Yep, what he said haha...

Marlon Moore has been more productive than Bowe, and I'm not sure that kid gets much more than league min.

I just read that Tom Brady now has more receiving yards than Dwayne Bowe.

well, to be fair he has been targeted 5 times, caught 3 for 31 yards and only been active for i think 3 or 4 games lol. Pretty pathetic for $9m. However, is he really so bad that Marlon Moore and this Jennings kid off the practice squad are better options and "Give us a better chance to win" ? Or is it maybe some more of Pettine's pettiness coming out? Did Dwayne maybe go to a restaurant and have a scotch or two after dinner or something?

Well he should. He makes a hell of a lot more than Bowe does

If I was Haslam, I would force Pettine to play Bowe. And I mean on every play. Don't throw to him, just make him block. I don't know if he could be considered a decoy. Then call an end around to him, and everybody does the "longest yard" thing. Then when he pulls his lazy butt up, call a screen to him, and do the same thing. Hell, I would make him return a kickoff. Got to get something for the 9 million.

The emotional side of me says "yes, make Bowe have to take some shots and pay for being a bum this year."

But then I realize that treating players (especially FA vets) like that is not wise when dealing with FA in the future.

We signed the guy and then never played him. I think we're past that point.

I think he basically was a no show all camp and season ... not an excuse for signing him though

Get a new GM and let him decide what happens with Bowe.

... and our future draft selections.

I think that this is same as playing Manziel. Farmer has control of the 53, Pettine the 46.

It is painfully obvious that the opinion about Bowe is not the same.

Nice point.

The whole team is a disaster.

I still want to cut this pudding. Can he go IR or some manly option. I'd run him over the middle regularly. WAWOM! (What a waste of money!)

More fuel for the fire.

Browns' Dwayne Bowe: 'I've never been through anything like this in my life'

Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland.com By Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland.com
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on December 15, 2015 at 4:31 PM, updated December 15, 2015 at 4:32 PM

BEREA, Ohio -- Receiver Dwayne Bowe, the poster boy for everything that's wrong with the Browns this season, knows he can still play even though he can't get on the field.

"I've never been through anything like this in my life,'' Bowe told cleveland.com last week. "It's the ultimate challenge.''

Signed as a free agent in the offseason to a two-year contract worth $12.5 million -- including $9 million guaranteed -- Bowe stood on the sidelines in streetclothes during Sunday's 24-10 loss to the 49ers for the seventh time as a healthy scratch this season. Instead, the Browns activated newcomer Terrelle Pryor and rookie Darius Jennings.

Bowe also missed the opener with the pulled hamstring that caused him to miss most of training camp.

In five games this season, he has three catches for 31 yards -- about $3 million per catch. That's 63.5 fewer receptions than he averaged in eight years in Kansas City 863 fewer yards.

All told, he's played only about 38 snaps this season and has barely been target.

"It's hard because I feel like I can contribute,'' said Bowe, who turned 31 in September. "If something's not working, you might want to go to something else, but I'm a player, not a coach. I'm also a team player, so whatever they want to do, I'm all about that.''

Bowe is still confident that if the Browns had put him in the game and threw him the ball, he would've matched or exceeded his 66 catches and 894 yards. At 6-2, 222, he also felt he could've been the big-body wideout the Browns needed in the red zone -- a role that Terrelle Pryor will now likely play over the final three games.

"Of course I can still play,'' said Bowe. "I show it every day in practice. I feel like if they put me in there and threw the ball to me, I would've made big plays.''

Two weeks ago against the Bengals, he stood on the sidelines with Pryor despite the fact the Browns were without concussed receivers Taylor Gabriel and Andrew Hawkins. By the end of the game, the Browns were down to two healthy receivers, and one was rookie Darius Jennings, who had just been promoted from the practice squad.

"I just sit back and when my number 80 is called, I'll just go in and do the best I can,'' he said.

With Hartline undergoing surgery Tuesday to repair a broken collarbone suffered against the 49ers, Bowe could see action in Seattle. But coach Mike Pettine said Pryor -- who played 16 snaps Sunday in his NFL debut at wideout -- will see more action, and the Browns signed receiver Ranell Hall of the Tampa Bay practice squad, an undrafted rookie out of the University of Central Florida.

Related: Brian Hartline placed on IR after collarbone surgery
Related: Brian Hartline placed on IR after collarbone surgery
Receiver Brian Hartline is out for the season after getting hot in his last four games, averaging 7.5 catches and 85 yards.

The Browns also have Gabriel ready to return from his concussion, meaning Bowe could be inactive again.

"All I can do is look forward to the next opportunity,'' he said. "I love football. I love to be a role model for the young guys. When you're losing it doesn't seem like fun, but at the end of the day, you're still teaching somebody something and that's what I do.''

Bowe, who caught 60 passes for 754 yards last season in Kansas City, isn't really sure what happened to him here.

"Honestly I have no clue,'' he said.

He surmised that he was never able to catch back up after missing most of training camp with the pulled hamstring, especially with a new offensive coordinator in John DeFilippo who was installing a new scheme.

"When I got hurt, it set me back as far as the coach getting to know what I can do and things like that,'' he said. "I just got so far behind in the playbook and they added most of the main content when I was out. When I was got back, they were so far ahead, and to go back for me would've set the whole offense back.''

Bowe also underestimated the adjustment to a new team and new city after spending the first eight years of his career in Kansas City, where he was a first round pick (23rd overall) in 2007 out of Louisiana State. He was brought in by Browns general manager Ray Farmer, who had spent six years with him in Kansas City. He also knew linebacker Karlos Dansby, who shares the same agent.

"I thought it would be easy because I had a few guys I knew from Kansas City,'' he said. "But to get the same kind of supporting cast I had in Kansas City, you have to build that, and it's going to take more than one year.''

He said friends and coaches he knows in the league often ask him what's up.

"Everybody's wanted to see it,'' he said. "It's just unfortunate. The game I was activated and they threw me in, I made some big plays. It just depends on when you want it to happen.''

Bowe said it hasn't tempered his love for the game or his desire to keep playing, although he's realistic enough to know it probably won't be here.

"It doesn't matter where, as long as I'm playing football,'' he said. "I thought I'd never leave Kansas City, but it doesn't matter. I just want to play.''

While waiting for his opportunity, Bowe has tried to help the young receivers such as Gabriel and Jennings learn the game. He's also been a big help to Pryor, another big-body wideout.

"I'm just keeping the guys motivated, just helping them stay positive,'' said Bowe. "I just want to let everybody know it's not the end of the world if you're losing. You're still building chemistry. You still have a job. There's still a lot of positives to take out of this situation.''

As for his own situation, "things could always be worse. You look around the league, a lot of my friends have had season-ending injuries. I'm just glad I'm not on that side of the ball. That's how I keep a positive light on it.''

Bowe also takes some solace in the fact he's showing the young guys more than just how to run a route or get leverage on a defensive back.

"When it's their turn to deal with adversity, hopefully they'll remember to come to work with good energy and keep the guys around them together,'' he said. "You have to contribute in some type of positive way, or it will drive you crazy.''
Linky

Bowe is a joke.

I didn't realize we lost to the 49ers?

Now I really don't care for him.

He's blaming others.


[bold]In five games this season, he has three catches for 31 yards -- about $3 million per catch. That's 63.5 fewer receptions than he averaged in eight years in Kansas City 863 fewer yards[/bold]

And then followed by [bold]Bowe is still confident that if the Browns had put him in the game and threw him the ball, he would've matched or exceeded his 66 catches and 894 yards. At 6-2, 222, he also felt he could've been the big-body wideout the Browns needed in the red zone -- a role that Terrelle Pryor will now likely play over the final three games.[/bold]

Followed by [bold]"Of course I can still play,'' said Bowe. "I show it every day in practice. I feel like if they put me in there and threw the ball to me, I would've made big plays.[/bold]

Followed by [bold]He surmised that he was never able to catch back up after missing most of training camp with the pulled hamstring, especially with a new offensive coordinator in John DeFilippo who was installing a new scheme.

"When I got hurt, it set me back as far as the coach getting to know what I can do and things like that,'' he said. "I just got so far behind in the playbook and they added most of the main content when I was out. When I was got back, they were so far ahead, and to go back for me would've set the whole offense back.[/bold]

So, he knows why he doesn't play, on one hand, but he laments the opportunity on the other hand. He blames the team, yet says he was so far behind in the playbook......

You're a veteran. Getting behind on the playbook means you weren't studying the playbook. In fact, if you're injured and can't practice or play, that should enable you to get ahead in the playbook, not behind.

He's not a rookie. Not knowing the playbook, as he self confessed, is terrible.

Yes. Please.

its alex smiths fault!!!!!

I honestly don't know what to make of that article other than we're a joke.

He made some big plays in a game? I could be wrong, but I really don't remember that. I remember him having one catch and fighting for a few extra yards, but I don't remember "big plays."

Am I wrong?

he must be high (only half joking)

I vote yes.

The game I was activated and they threw me in, I made some big plays. It just depends on when you want it to happen.