Thing is Lynch is from the spread and its likely gonna take him a couple years to play the NFL game. I think the kid can be a star in the league but he will need to develop.
Thing is Lynch is from the spread and its likely gonna take him a couple years to play the NFL game. I think the kid can be a star in the league but he will need to develop.
I really don't see how anyone can be a star in the league with the QB draft class coming out next year...
if we compare them to other "good draft classes" i doubt they would get drafted in the second round let alone the first round.
I see the potential there but I just dont think u can take a spread QB top 10. To much risk involved and I thought the Titans were complete morons but then they tried to do things he was used to. They used the read option which we damn near killed him with and he has been up and down but he appears to be another yar or so away from taking that true step forward.
I see the potential there but I just dont think u can take a spread QB top 10. To much risk involved and I thought the Titans were complete morons but then they tried to do things he was used to. They used the read option which we damn near killed him with and he has been up and down but he appears to be another yar or so away from taking that true step forward.
Mariota is almost an elite QB already.
The spread is only a hindrance if the player is unwilling to work (like our current starting QB). Great players will figure it out.
You guys do realize that we'll see Terrelle Pryor at QB vs Pittsburgh in game 16. Its pre-ordained, since the Browns returned in '99, that the 3rd string QB starts the last game of the season.
That there is a fast big man. Its a shame he throws like a shot-putter.
Mike Pettine indicates Johnny Manziel on short leash
Browns coach Mike Pettine said Wednesday that "repercussions would be harsh" if quarterback Johnny Manziel has another off-field transgression.
"[It's] hard to put things in a vacuum," Pettine said. "I don't want to sit here and say, 'Look at the degree of discipline.' It's hard to say we have a zero-tolerance policy. If something were to occur, I imagine the repercussions would be harsh."
Pettine also conceded that the Browns might not have been aware of how "deep-rooted" Manziel's off-field issues were when they drafted him in the first round in 2014.
"You see the reputation, what was out there," he said. "I don't think we anticipated that his problems, his issues, how deep-rooted they were, the extent of it."
Pettine said if every player with an issue were removed from the draft board, he would be left choosing from five or six players.
"You have to decide how much of this is maturity," Pettine said. "Is it early in college career? Is it continuing? You do as much as you can."
Manziel spent 10 weeks in a treatment facility after his rookie season, then lost the starting job after a video of him partying in Austin, Texas, during the Browns' bye week surfaced on social media.
Manziel compounded the problem by lying to the coaching staff about when the video was filmed. He then was demoted from starter to third team, but the team's quarterback situation changed when Josh McCown broke his collarbone and Austin Davis lost to the Cincinnati Bengals 37-3.
"We have to be able to put a team out there and play," Pettine said. "We know that there are some off-the-field issues there with Johnny. It's been very public and debated. Those are things that we're well aware of.
"We're going to spend some time, whether it's now doing what you can and after the season addressing those."
Pettine said Manziel has improved as a quarterback from his rookie season, when in some ways he was at an "elementary level." But the coach emphasized that Manziel has to earn the respect of teammates and the trust of coaches and that there is a bigger responsibility for a quarterback.
Before naming Davis starter last week, Pettine said he was going to review it "week to week"... so is Manziel the starter for the duration or will this be re-evaluated next week again?
Are we assuming Pettine is still making the QB decisions right? He usually has a press conf for these announcements. Not this time. My guess is he's being forced into starting JM against his will.
I'm not making any assumptions on who is making what decisions because I don't know.... I'm not sure THEY know.
We have so many other issues to worry about. McCown was not costing us games.
Let me think about this, okay didn't take long....
He sure in the hell didn't win us any, and his holding onto the ball for 3 + seconds is why Joe Thomas looks bad.
People want Joe gone because of his play this season.. maybe his QB should release the Ball quicker.. get the ball to the receivers quicker..
Look, Josh was beaten up this season, and guess what ? He ain't coming back a year younger. So anybody who thinks a career backup at 37 who was beat to hell is going to give us a winning season next year...Better be ready for another miserable season.
He may not of been costing us games, He better not be our starting QB next season, or expect another 2-14.
Arps your right, we have other issues, but buddy McCown needs to mentor...
People want Joe gone because of his play this season..
Those people are stupid.
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He may not of been costing us games, He better not be our starting QB next season, or expect another 2-14.
He didn't play defense for us, you know. We've seen it... we could do a LOT worse at QB than what McCown gave us this year. No, there is no way at all that he is any sort of even a medium-term answer for us, but compared to what we've trotted out there at the position for the last 19 years, he was pretty darn solid and whether it is him or someone else, I would happily take what he brought to the position next season.
Anyway, I think you were just missing the point of Arps' comment -- that, for once in our lives since The Return, QB wasn't a concern. Granted, that was because the entire rest of the team was so incredibly godawful that it is actually mind-blowing, but that's beside the point.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
I think if the rest of the team had been average, then QB would have still prevented us from winning. It just gets glossed over because other parts of the team are so glaringly bad.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
I think if the rest of the team had been average, then QB would have still prevented us from winning. It just gets glossed over because other parts of the team are so glaringly bad.
That is the same conclusion I have come to as well. The whole team is awful, QB just seems better than usual because it isn't the "awfulest" (yes I know that isn't a word).
Anyway, I think you were just missing the point of Arps' comment -- that, for once in our lives since The Return, QB wasn't a concern. Granted, that was because the entire rest of the team was so incredibly godawful that it is actually mind-blowing, but that's beside the point.
Good point, I do believe all this losing is causing a little stress among us all... Thanks
I think if the rest of the team had been average, then QB would have still prevented us from winning. It just gets glossed over because other parts of the team are so glaringly bad.
That is the same conclusion I have come to as well. The whole team is awful, QB just seems better than usual because it isn't the "awfulest" (yes I know that isn't a word).
It's a word now - although I'd use to "Ls." As in "awfullest".
By Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland.com on December 09, 2015 at 6:54 PM, updated December 09, 2015 at 6:55 PM
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Johnny Manziel didn't pretend to agree with Mike Pettine's decision to bench him. Nor did he apologize for being a distraction or promise he'd never do it again.
"I was forced to learn a hard lesson,'' he said. "I had to learn the hard way and I'm lucky to be back in the position that I'm in and being the starter again so I'm definitely not taking that lightly. That's for sure."
And what exactly did he learn?
"Obviously, there's a way to conduct yourself that 31 other guys in the league do each and every week,'' he said. "You have to follow that example and realize that this is a very prestigious situation that I'm in being a starting quarterback in the NFL so I have to take pride in that and act accordingly."
He made it clear that he wasn't happy with Pettine's decision to demote him to third string two weeks ago and backup last week.
"Um. In coach Pettine's mind, he thought that was necessary to get the harsh point across to me,'' said Manziel. "Did I like it? No. Did I have to sit there with a bad taste in my mouth and accept the consequences for my actions? Sure. I did and I tried to help the guys out these past couple weeks as best I could and it was hard going into the uncertainty of last week and not know was going to happen either and have to sit another week.
"So I'm just sitting here today very thankful to be back in this role and be back in front of these guys and being in the huddle calling plays again and trying to go out and salvage what's left of this season and take some pride in these last four games."
How much did it hurt not to start the Monday Night Football game against the Ravens?
"It sucked,'' he said.
He wouldn't admit he lied to Pettine about partying over the bye weekend, which is what got him demoted from starter to third-string quarterback in the first place. In fact, he sounded more miffed that someone leaked the fib than contrite that it happened.
"What was said between me and coach Pettine and (offensive coordinator John DeFilippo and quarterbacks coach Kevin O'Connell) stays in that room,'' said Manziel. "I'm a firm believer in what coach Pett has preached, and that's there's certain things that are family business and stay within this organization.
"What I told them is between me and them. I'm not going to speak on it any further.''
Asked how he didn't realize his partying video from an Austin, Texas nightclub, in which he rapped vulgar lyrics and danced with a bottle of champagne in his hand, he said, "It was a lapse in judgment, that's what it comes down to."
And did he need yet another off-the-field incident to wake him up?
"I don't know, but there's nothing you can do now to go back and change that."
Manziel, who spent 73 days in an addiction treatment center, continues to defend his off-the-field actions despite the fact he's been seen out drinking on numerous occasions, including back at Texas A&M over the mini-bye weekend after the Cincinnati game and in Austin over the regular bye weekend. He also admitted to having a few drinks four hours before his roadway incident with his girlfriend, Colleen Crowley, on Oct. 12.
"I, by far, in a way have improved from where I was last year,'' he said. "Now am I perfect by any means? No. But there has been improvement all the way around from the way I've conducted myself in the building and for the majority of the time for the way I conducted myself off the field.
"Now is there obviously times where I need to be better and like I said act the way I want to each and every day, every second of every day? Sure. But from where I was last year to where I am today, I'm still extremely proud of where I am."
Pettine is a little less proud at this point after Manziel lied to him just seven days after he named him the starter for the final six games of the season on Nov. 17th -- the same day Manziel was cleared by the NFL of harming his girlfriend during their in-car argument. Manziel's violation of trust still has the coach on high alert and skeptical about his 2014 first-round pick.
"It would be hard for me to sit here and say, 'We have a zero-tolerance policy,''' said Pettine. "But if something were to occur, I could imagine that the repercussions would be harsh."
He acknowledged the club knew Manziel had issues before they drafted him, but didn't realize how bad it it was. Ultimately, things came to a head in the offseason when checked himself into inpatient rehab after a season of hard partying from coast to coast.
"I don't think we anticipated that his problems, his issues, maybe how deep-rooted they were, the extent of it,'' Pettine said. "You have to decide how much of this is maturity. Was it early in his college year? Is it continuing? You do as much research as you can. ...That's why the draft is hit or miss with so many guys.''
But Manziel isn't viewing this as his last chance with the Browns, even though Pettine's patience is wearing thin.
"No. I haven't gotten that impression from this organization,'' Manziel said. "These last four weeks for me are just a chance to go out and take pride in this job and this position and get these guys rallied around and try and provide a spark.
"I'm completely bunkered in for these last four weeks, I'm going to come in here every day and give every ounce of energy that I have to try and win these last four games, whether the odds are against us, whether we're favored, whether we're huge dogs or whatever the case may be, we need to win some of these games.''
So, with the way things have transpired -- and with Manziel obviously in disagreement with Pettine over his benching -- wouldn't he rather play with a team like the Cowboys, where Jerry Jones is still effusive in his praise of Manziel despite all of the transgressions?
"I'm not giving up on myself being here,'' he said. "That's been talked about since the day I came out to enter the draft, leaving A&M. I'm not giving up on my situation here. I was brought here and I believe I still have people in this organization that want me to be here and I'm still here for a reason.
"So I'm here now and controlling what I control, and that's going out on Sunday and trying to play well. That's what it comes down to, I want to play well. I still have a lot to prove in this league, obviously I haven't really done anything. So that's my focus.''
Manziel turned 23 on Sunday, the same day the Browns got blown out 37-3 by the Bengals with Austin Davis as the starter and Manziel the backup. Later that night, he tweeted a photo of himself from last season flashing his trademark money sign, which he said in June was no longer part of his life. The caption read, "23 and blessed.'' Was the money sign an act of rebellion? A statement that Manziel is going to live his life he way he wants to?
"It was just a happy birthday thing on the internet,'' he said. "So that's kind of just a non-factor, at least from my point of view. I know you guys like to talk about it a lot, but I wouldn't look too much into it.''
Despite the benching, Manziel believes he can get his mind right to face the 4-8 49ers on Sunday.
"I'm not looking at it as anything else in the past,'' he said. "I put that behind me and I'm moving forward and really focusing on this San Francisco gameplan.
After about half a dozen questions about off-the-field incidents, Manziel tried to shift the focus to football.
"I've answered the majority of the questions and I've answered those adequately,'' he said. "We do have a game this week, so as much as everybody wants to talk about what's gone on off the field, we do play the Niners on Sunday at home so I would love to sit here and talk to you guys about that and I'll stay up here as long as you guys would like. But for the most part, I think I've answered the way that I wanted to about everything that happened the past weekends.''
The Browns are hoping that over the next four weekends, Manziel has nothing to talk about but football.
lol !! I'll wipe it off with a terrible towel, oh wait, no way I touch one of those. I guess the nose stays brown, maybe I can add a little orange to it.
"I was forced to learn a hard lesson,'' he said. "I had to learn the hard way and I'm lucky to be back in the position that I'm in and being the starter again so I'm definitely not taking that lightly. That's for sure."
It sounds as if Pettine may have gotten his message through..only time will tell.
And THAT was the purpose behind the punishment..to "try" to teach this young man a lesson concerning his conduct off the field.
For all of Manziel's off field conduct from HS to his most recent incident, this is the toughest punishment Manziel has ever been forced to endure..I hope it works!
Now Manziel can start the process of trying to rebuild his relationship with his coaches..O'Connell, Flip and Pettine.
As for Manziel's drinking again, it is up to him to control it..another lesson he had to learn the hard way.
Now that the Browns have done all the work and suffered all the embarrassment..confronting Manziel's addiction issues and now his conduct off the field..I'm hoping Manziel proves himself as a QB, on the field.
Can Manziel become the franchise QB the Browns hoped for...I hope so.
IF Johnny strings together 4 good games, I'd be comfortable going in to next season with the same QB's we have now to be honest. I think McCown has been a pretty good influence on Johhny and I think he's good enough to keep him as a 2nd string guy.
I wouldn't be unhappy with that, as none of the QB's in this class have me excited. However, if the new FO (assuming we have a new one) feels we need a QB and likes one of them I'd have no problem with taking one with our first pick. I think Lynch would be my first choice at this point.
As cfr stated, we've see too many times where QB's string together a nice set of games only to completely suck once designated "the one".
All well and good I suppose, but the real problem still exists.
Let's say he strings together 4 good games. Win or lose, the problem of what goes on between the kids ears is still there.
For me, it's tough to believe he's going to get his mind right. I still have that fear.
I'd like nothing better than for him to prove me wrong, but I've seen nothing that says that's likely.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
All well and good I suppose, but the real problem still exists.
Let's say he strings together 4 good games. Win or lose, the problem of what goes on between the kids ears is still there.
For me, it's tough to believe he's going to get his mind right. I still have that fear.
I'd like nothing better than for him to prove me wrong, but I've seen nothing that says that's likely.
He hasn't done anything wrong the entire year, so for me, it is a non-issue at this point. Mike made the last "incident", which I use that term loosely, into a full blown scandal somehow. We'll see. If he actually does something stupid, I'll admit I was wrong and move on.
All well and good I suppose, but the real problem still exists.
Let's say he strings together 4 good games. Win or lose, the problem of what goes on between the kids ears is still there.
For me, it's tough to believe he's going to get his mind right. I still have that fear.
I'd like nothing better than for him to prove me wrong, but I've seen nothing that says that's likely.
He hasn't done anything wrong the entire year, so for me, it is a non-issue at this point. Mike made the last "incident", which I use that term loosely, into a full blown scandal somehow. We'll see. If he actually does something stupid, I'll admit I was wrong and move on.
He hasn't? What about partying in a public setting making it easy to get videoed, having it posted online and worst of all, when confronted by his coach, lying about it. I don't call that nothing. I call that a pretty big hint that the kid can't be trusted.
The worst part about it, had he said, hey, it wasn't as bad as it seemed and explained himself, maybe Pettine takes it in a different direction.
Instead, he lies about it. Yeah, no problem there.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
He hasn't? What about partying in a public setting making it easy to get videoed, having it posted online and worst of all, when confronted by his coach, lying about it. I don't call that nothing. I call that a pretty big hint that the kid can't be trusted.
The worst part about it, had he said, hey, it wasn't as bad as it seemed and explained himself, maybe Pettine takes it in a different direction.
Instead, he lies about it. Yeah, no problem there
No, he hasn't. He did what likely 95% of the team did on their vacation time. There should have never been a problem as Daddy should not have put those rules into place. Mike is a high school coach at best - certainly not a pro coach. I've said that I don't like that he lied, but he should have never been put into that position by a pea-brained egomaniac coach. I'm sure none of us ever lied about something stupid when we were 22
or maybe the head office knows how bad a problem manziel has with drinking and anger issues and they are trying to keep him from self destructing instead of just saying screw it.
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
or maybe the head office knows how bad a problem manziel has with drinking and anger issues and they are trying to keep him from self destructing instead of just saying screw it.
or maybe the head office knows how bad a problem manziel has with drinking and anger issues and they are trying to keep him from self destructing instead of just saying screw it.
The Browns have a significant investment in Manziel and NEED him to succeed. If (as columbusdog has stated) the "restrictions" on him for the bye week were unfair, I believe that was something that was put in place for the "greater good" of all...
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers...Socrates
As usual Manziel said all the right things...I'm glad with the way Pettine has groomed Manziel. Hopefully it saves his career and gets us a stud Franchise QB finally!
I just thought the slant and bias of the author was evident. For instance stating Manziel confessed to having a FEW drinks earlier in the year when he was stopped regarding the GF argument. TWO BEERS is what I recollect the facts were and no where near being inebriated as there were no drinking charges brought up nor a reason to test him as a driver. Few Drinks implies a bit more.
jmho
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Boils down to the story you want to write and objectivity be damned. So much of so many of these stories just cut & pastes of previous negativity articles. The thrill about mentioning our rotten Qb's, the number of them, rehab, losing records, and the drivel list goes on and on. The obvious intent is to avoid team coverage, and also to throw mud and rocks at the Browns because JFF continues to make it possible. I see that as ethically challenged journalism IMO. Pontificate away! All Johnny, all the time, and quite a number of disappointments and black eyes. I am sorry to see yet another of these sorry fluff repeats.
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
or maybe the head office knows how bad a problem manziel has with drinking and anger issues and they are trying to keep him from self destructing instead of just saying screw it.
Standing behind a podium after two of the toughest weeks of his NFL career, Johnny Manziel called himself “obviously very fortunate” to be back in the role as Cleveland’s starting quarterback.
His demotion from starting quarterback to third-string leading into Cleveland’s Monday Night Football game against the Ravens, and his subsequent role as the backup to Austin Davis for last week’s loss to the Bengals, was “a hard lesson” he’s ready to leave in the past as he prepares for Sunday’s game against the 49ers.
“I had to learn it the hard way,” Manziel said. “I am lucky to be back in the position that I am in and being the starter again. I am definitely not taking it lightly, that’s for sure.”
“I am just sitting here today very thankful to be back in this role to be back in front of these guys and be in the huddle calling the plays again and trying to go out and salvage what is left of this season and take some pride in these last four games.”
For Manziel, his on-field focus centers on the good that came from his last start, a 372-yard effort at Pittsburgh that drew rave reviews from coach Mike Pettine and offensive coordinator John DeFilippo. It was a big step in the right direction for Manziel on the field that was followed by a step backward away from it.
As Pettine said Wednesday, there’s so much more to being an NFL quarterback than what happens between the lines, and Manziel acknowledged that fact Wednesday.
“There is a way to conduct yourself that 31 other guys in the league do each and every week,” Manziel said. “You have to follow that example and realize that this is a very prestigious situation that I am in being a starting quarterback in the NFL. I have to take pride in that and act accordingly.”
If Manziel completes this upcoming four-game stretch of starts, it will be his longest string of games as a starting quarterback since his 2013 season at Texas A&M. It’s a chance to show he can be a consistent option at one of the toughest positions in sports against a string of opponents that only gets tougher with each passing week.
After the 49ers on Sunday, Manziel would be set to face Seattle and Kansas City on the road before taking on Pittsburgh at FirstEnergy Stadium to close out the 2015 season. His mind isn’t wandering beyond that, even when he was asked about what the next four starts mean for his future with the Browns in 2016 and beyond.
“I am excited to get these starts for the remainder of the season and put my total at seven or eight starts over the past couple years,” Manziel said. “For me and my progression as a quarterback, it is another time to go out with these guys and try to get a win and put our team and our offense in a position to score more points than they do.”
When Manziel last saw the field, he had a full arsenal of receivers at his disposal. Against the 49ers, he could be without a significant chunk of that group, as Taylor Gabriel and Andrew Hawkins have been sidelined with concussions since Manziel’s last start and leading receiver Travis Benjamin is dealing with a shoulder injury that kept him out of practice Wednesday.
Like Davis did against the Bengals, Manziel will strive to bring the best out of whomever is on the field with him during an opportunity he’s not taking lightly.
“Would it be nice to have some of those guys back? Sure, but we can only play with whoever we have on Sunday,” Manziel said. “I know whoever is in there is going to go and fight extremely hard. I don’t have any doubts about those guys coming in and playing hard.”
I listened to Johnnys presser this morning from yesterday, I really hope he lights it up. He seemed humbled and appeared he was very aware and apologetic of his previous behavior..
Don't look back, tear it up or try. I'm tired of failed QB's. I want to see this young man succeed. For his sake,the teams sake and mostly for the sake of winning.
Wouldn't it be great to be a winning franchise again.So the last thing I'm going to do is wish for him to fail. That is being a bad fan.. I want to be proud again, and if he can do it,, then bless him for it.
I listened to Johnnys presser this morning from yesterday, I really hope he lights it up. He seemed humbled and appeared he was very aware and apologetic of his previous behavior..
That's because he has a lot of practice at giving this response. He did it last year too.
I listened to Johnnys presser this morning from yesterday, I really hope he lights it up. He seemed humbled and appeared he was very aware and apologetic of his previous behavior..
That's because he has a lot of practice at giving this response. He did it last year too.
Ouch!...
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers...Socrates
Lmao ! I did expect this from you, and it really is funny.
If he turns this team around, I'm getting you an Autographed Johnny Manziel bobble head...
Manziel apologizes to police officer for being drunk:
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“We have to keep him focused; Johnny needs incentives,” Michelle Manziel said as she put away food in the house. They found, John Paul added, “Johnny needs structure all the time, because down time for Johnny is the worst time.”
His point: this past June, amid a competition for the starting quarterback spot, Manziel was arrested and put in jail for an incident outside a bar in College Station. As he and a friend were leaving, the friend had shouted a racial slur to a man on the street. Manziel stepped in between, trying to be a peacemaker, a witness told the police, when the man pushed against Manziel, who shoved the man, precipitating a fight.
He eventually gave the police a fake ID. The police said he appeared too intoxicated to answer questions, but he managed to apologize and ask for a ride home.
John Paul met with the first-year Texas A&M coach Kevin Sumlin. Johnny Manziel was to be subject to random drug testing, undergo drug and alcohol counseling, complete more community service and have a daily schedule “mapped out to the minute,” John Paul said.
Manziel apologizes to Texas A&M coaches (7/16/13):
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Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel has apologized to the Aggies' coaching staff and is being advised to be honest about what led to his much-discussed departure this past weekend from the Manning Passing Academy, a source told ESPN.
The Heisman Trophy winner did not finish his scheduled stay as a college coach/counselor at the camp at Nicholls State University in Thibodaux, La., because he missed assigned meetings and practice sessions, citing dehydration and illness. He apologized privately to camp officials for being unable to fulfill his commitment.
According to some Internet reports, Manziel was sent home by Archie Manning because of "partying," although ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported that camp officials were adamant those reports were inaccurate.
Manziel, who is scheduled to speak at SEC media days Wednesday, was "very upset" as he headed home from the academy and has privately conceded that he needs to continue to mature, the source said. He is preparing for an anticipated difficult line of questioning at media days. The turnout of media is expected to number around 1,200.
“I owe private apologies to a lot of people that I disappointed but a very public one to the Browns organization and the fans that I let down,” Manziel said in a statement released Friday by the Browns. “I take full responsibility for my actions and it’s my intention to work very hard to regain everyone’s trust and respect. I understand that will take time and will only happen through what I do and not what I say.”
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