DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Who is Cam Erving on the field of play.

I like this one, "Looks like Wimpy, plays like Wimpy."



Tell me I'm wrong!

Erving's lower body is so weak. His legs buckle on almost every pass rush.

Additionally, he is a pretty tall guy and he plays high. No leverage and weak legs are a bad combo in the NFL.

He might end up being the worst of all of Farmer's picks. Well...other than Gilber, that is.

If given the choice of who we'd have to keep for 5 more years, who would everyone choose: Erving or Gilbert?

Erving by a slim margin would be my guess

Erving by a mile. At least he hustles, and tries his best to do anything ask of him. He is the kind of kid that will bust his butt to try to improve. Gilbert has more talent but no balls, heart, or commitment.

I agree bro. At least he's committed to trying. The team speaks highly of him, not even remotely do they do the same for Gilbert.

There's hope for Erving, but part of me wonders if it's the ol coach? And oc?

I know that other guy played worlds better, but the rest of the o line already knows how to play the position at the NFL level.

Plus, wasn't Erving here to be the center, anyway?

I'm with tab on this: assign him a position and stick to it.

I agree w/you guys about Erving over Gilber because you can see that Erving is enthusiastic out there. He's trying. He just stinks.

Not sure if the OL coach is going to help him to not get pancaked, though. LOL

Gilbert is a worthless mess.

Erving, I at least have faith in, will improve himself to some extent and that improvement I'm actually anticipating starting to occur this offseason. Hopefully he takes his technique serious, and does more than lift burgers into his mouth. He needs technique and strength.

Gilbert needs a new brain amongst other things. So of course everyone should pick Erving had they been giving the choice between the two. Justin one of the worst picks first rounders, IMO, in this franchise's history.

Erving needs a good steroid regimen.

IDK why, but this totally made me

Well, it was said pretty much in jest but really, could you blame him? You have a guy who was drafted pretty high, the biggest knock on him is lack of strength... you can only add so much strength through hard work in one or two off-seasons... so his choices might come down to... risk performance enhancing drugs or be out of the league in a couple years... We all sit in judgement of guys who try it, but really a lot of people would take the risk... the reward is just too great.

Maybe he should consult that one tackle who used to be on the Raiders. Can't remember his name or what team he's on now, but basically the guy who looks like a real life incredible hulk.

Jared Veldheer

Ha, yeah that's the one. It's funny too when you compare those pics to his combine pic. Looks like the evolution of Barry Bonds.

Thought we were talking about Robert Gallery. Raiders old guard who got caught taking steroids between the combine and the draft.

Erving was falling down before the ball was kicked.

What's most disturbing about that pic is that they were in a prevent mode, only rushing 6 and guarding against the fake.... and they STILL BLOCKED IT.

Disturbing is one word to describe it. Maddening is another.

Plenty of plug in adjectives to use to describe Cam Erving. Unfortunately, not many of applicable ones are of a positive nature.

Plenty of plug in adjectives to use to describe Cam Erving. Unfortunately, not many of the applicable ones are of a positive nature.

And many of them are not permitted to be posted on this board. lol

Erving had two defenders on him immediately on that play, one on each shoulder - literally. He was blasted up and back by them together.

I have little doubt that they targeted him because he's shown that he can be stood up, but at the same time, when you get hit by two guys at the same time, it's going to be a rough time.

If he's that weak of a link on our field goal team, he needs to be removed from it.

If putting 2 guys on him gives teams a decent chance of blocking a kick - guess what teams will.......wait, they already are.

There are always two guys on one guy during a field goal because no one can line up over the long snapper.

And with some coaching, he can learn to keep his pads lower and not be as easy to stand up, and then not be such a target.




Ummmm.... name one player where putting two players on him won't give you a better chance of standing him up so you can make a play.
It's a 2-on-1.... some guys will handle it better than others, but it will ALWAYS work in the defense's favor.

Um, name one player that has now become known as "easy to beat" other than Erving. Heck, he get's blown up when he plays guard on offense way to easily.

In your pic there's not 2 on 1 on the other side. They overloaded Cam's side.

Right. I'm not saying there are multiple guys on every side. I'm saying in every field goal scenario there are two guys going against one guy. Erving is the perfect foe because he sucks and they were going to double team someone anyway.

Cam has been knocked backwards on plenty of plays when we were on offense. His lower body appears to be weak.

I think he has been coached for technique. Shoot, middle school kids are taught technique. I am sure he has been coached to properly play w/leverage.

At this point, he just stinks and no amount of sugar-coating or excuse-making is going to change that.

Once upon a time, Robert Gallery was THE hot topic around these here parts

I'm adamant that Mack is goneski at seasons' end. With a full offseason of conditioning and in the (what?) system, I think the baptism of fire will serve him well. He's willing to work but thus far, the Browns have set him up to fail. I think we drafted for the future with one eye on Mack and we needed help all over the shop right now. The dude has been plugged in and chopped and changed all over the line except the one place he was drafted to be. The book ain't up on big Erv just yet.

The book isn't finished, but I hope to God that Mack stays and the the book on Erving stays closed for another year.

I think I have a better chance of hitting the powerball than we do Mack not opting out. Especially when the firings start.

As bad as Erving is, it'll be brutal next year if we need to plug him in at center. I really see John being moved back to C and someone else being inserted at guard while Erving continues to develop, serve as backup and etc.

Good eye and good explanation.

The problem w/excusing the block FG as a defense for Erving is that he got knocked backwards several times and pancaked twice while he was blocking as our LG in our regular offense.

You can point out the things that aren't a player's fault while still holding him accountable for the things that are his fault. You can even give him a pass on those things that aren't his fault on any given play and still call him out for that play.

Yes, he ABSOLUTELY has to get better with his pad levels & technique & he has to get stronger, but at the same time, it's not terribly hard to understand what happened there. ANY player that has two opponents get under his pads to blast him up and back is going to have a rough go of it.... and he literally had a guy on each shoulder on that play. Where he went wrong is in his technique in allowing those guys to get that position in the first place, but, once that happened, the rest is elementary physics.

I'm sorry. I thought the title of the thread was "Who is Cam Erving on the field of play," rather than "Who was responsible for a blocked FG attempt."

My bad..........