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Sorry but we need a QB still jmo.


Hopefully you're not basing that on that late interception.

The only red flag on Manziel is off the field. I understand that's a concern.

If you commit to him and build the rest of the team up (and he stays out of trouble), we will be rewarded.


Thats what I think as well...

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GEEZE is Shelton fat. Holy crap he needs to get in the gym! I'd hate to see what he looks like after an off season.


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Originally Posted By: Rishuz
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Sorry but we need a QB still jmo.

If you commit to him and build the rest of the team up (and he stays out of trouble), we will be rewarded.


Unless we aren't.

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Sorry but we need a QB still jmo.


I don't get how you can get a new coach and tell him Manziel has to be his QB. Talk about limiting the possible candidates.


That's unfortunately why we have to roll with Pettine.

But he has to fire O'Neil.


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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
GEEZE is Shelton fat. Holy crap he needs to get in the gym! I'd hate to see what he looks like after an off season.


He is really fat. Like the fattest dude in the league fat.

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GEEZE is Shelton fat. Holy crap he needs to get in the gym! I'd hate to see what he looks like after an off season.


Farmer probably wants him to gain a few and Erving to.


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IF he stays out of trouble. And IF he stays healthy. And if he can actually play the position at a high level(which has not been determined yet). Maybe he can be a franchise QB. I sure as hell wouldn't bet the franchise on that. I'd still keep looking. It's not a sin to keep yyour options open. Two QB's aren't a bad thing.


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IF he stays out of trouble. And IF he stays healthy. And if he can actually play the position at a high level(which has not been determined yet). Maybe he can be a franchise QB. I sure as hell wouldn't bet the franchise on that. I'd still keep looking. It's not a sin to keep yyour options open. Two QB's aren't a bad thing.


That's why I draft a QB with the second pick.


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Two QBs are a bad thing.

You claimed Manziel would get hurt today. He didn't.

Commit and build. Be smart for once.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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GEEZE is Shelton fat. Holy crap he needs to get in the gym! I'd hate to see what he looks like after an off season.


He is really fat. Like the fattest dude in the league fat.


First guy I can remember getting fatter as the year goes on. Usually by now the fatties are in shape. At least reasonably so. I take that back. I do remember. Shaun Rogers

How scary is that


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IF he stays out of trouble. And IF he stays healthy. And if he can actually play the position at a high level(which has not been determined yet). Maybe he can be a franchise QB. I sure as hell wouldn't bet the franchise on that. I'd still keep looking. It's not a sin to keep yyour options open. Two QB's aren't a bad thing.


That's why I draft a QB with the second pick.


I don't like the way you think.

The Titans are going to win one of their last two and we are going to pick first!

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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
IF he stays out of trouble. And IF he stays healthy. And if he can actually play the position at a high level(which has not been determined yet). Maybe he can be a franchise QB. I sure as hell wouldn't bet the franchise on that. I'd still keep looking. It's not a sin to keep yyour options open. Two QB's aren't a bad thing.


The only time two QBs ever works is when the other one is already a Franchise QB.

If you have two unknowns, you have nothing, actually, less than nothing, because all it does is cause problems.


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IF he stays out of trouble. And IF he stays healthy. And if he can actually play the position at a high level(which has not been determined yet). Maybe he can be a franchise QB. I sure as hell wouldn't bet the franchise on that. I'd still keep looking. It's not a sin to keep yyour options open. Two QB's aren't a bad thing.


That's why I draft a QB with the second pick.


I don't like the way you think.

The Titans are going to win one of their last two and we are going to pick first!


I hope! Who do they play?


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IF he stays out of trouble. And IF he stays healthy. And if he can actually play the position at a high level(which has not been determined yet). Maybe he can be a franchise QB. I sure as hell wouldn't bet the franchise on that. I'd still keep looking. It's not a sin to keep yyour options open. Two QB's aren't a bad thing.


That's why I draft a QB with the second pick.


I don't like the way you think.

The Titans are going to win one of their last two and we are going to pick first!


I hope! Who do they play?


Texans, then Colts.

The Texans might be starting Weeden.

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Two QBs are a bad thing.

You claimed Manziel would get hurt today. He didn't.

Commit and build. Be smart for once.


And that means he will never get hurt? Fine. Committ. But that means sign him long term. REALLY commit. Bet the FARM on Johnny. Hand him a shot and a beer and stand back.


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Two QBs are a bad thing.

You claimed Manziel would get hurt today. He didn't.

Commit and build. Be smart for once.


And that means he will never get hurt? Fine. Committ. But that means sign him long term. REALLY commit. Bet the FARM on Johnny. Hand him a shot and a beer and stand back.


You can apply your "hurt" logic to any QB.

Be straight with me....you're a comedian by profession, right?


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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If we get the #1 pick trade it for a kings ransom and build around Johnny ... my last comment tonight, later ... thumbsup


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Two QBs are a bad thing.

You claimed Manziel would get hurt today. He didn't.

Commit and build. Be smart for once.


And that means he will never get hurt? Fine. Committ. But that means sign him long term. REALLY commit. Bet the FARM on Johnny. Hand him a shot and a beer and stand back.


LOL! ..And a couple of plane tickets to see his buddies in Texas!


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GEEZE is Shelton fat. Holy crap he needs to get in the gym! I'd hate to see what he looks like after an off season.


He is really fat. Like the fattest dude in the league fat.


First guy I can remember getting fatter as the year goes on. Usually by now the fatties are in shape. At least reasonably so. I take that back. I do remember. Shaun Rogers

How scary is that


Did you see the DL for the Seahawks, (MeBane, 6'1" and at least 311#) early in the game, doing a dance, bouncing his gut and manboobs up and down.

This is his "dance" after a sack:



A lot of DL are fat.


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If we get the #1 pick trade it for a kings ransom and build around Johnny ... my last comment tonight, later ... thumbsup


That would be the smart thing to do.

Unfortunately, we are the Browns. We are not likely to do the smart thing.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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IF he stays out of trouble. And IF he stays healthy. And if he can actually play the position at a high level(which has not been determined yet). Maybe he can be a franchise QB. I sure as hell wouldn't bet the franchise on that. I'd still keep looking. It's not a sin to keep yyour options open. Two QB's aren't a bad thing.


The only time two QBs ever works is when the other one is already a Franchise QB.

If you have two unknowns, you have nothing, actually, less than nothing, because all it does is cause problems.


Tell that to the Cowboys. They took Aikeman and Walsh. Eventually going with Aikeman and trading Walsh.... worked out fine. Brees and Rivers. Brees wasn't a franchise QB or at least the Chargers didn't see him that way.


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If we get the #1 pick trade it for a kings ransom and build around Johnny ... my last comment tonight, later ... thumbsup


That would be the smart thing to do.

Unfortunately, we are the Browns. We are not likely to do the smart thing.


No one is giving up a "king's ransom" for a top pick again. Washington ruined it for everyone.

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Give it up for whatever you can get.


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I just hope that we draft smart, and make a few wise free agent signings. We should, again, have tons of cash and cap space available.


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Give it up for whatever you can get.


What about a seventh rounder?

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I just hope that we draft smart, and make a few wise free agent signings. We should, again, have tons of cash and cap space available.


Many will sign extensions or be tagged, but there are a lot of good free agents available.

We won't get any of them.

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If we get the #1 pick trade it for a kings ransom and build around Johnny ... my last comment tonight, later ... thumbsup


That would be the smart thing to do.

Unfortunately, we are the Browns. We are not likely to do the smart thing.


How about this? Commitment goes both ways. So if we commit to Johnny and he has just ONE dumbass twitter pick or other brian fart, we CUT him immediately. Fair enough? As long as he is the first player in the building, and the last one to leave? We are committed. The MINUTE he is NOT that guy, we aren't married anymore. I want to see if he is willing to do what it takes before I commit. So far he's shown he ISN'T. Time to show and prove.


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Two QBs are a bad thing.

You claimed Manziel would get hurt today. He didn't.

Commit and build. Be smart for once.


And that means he will never get hurt? Fine. Committ. But that means sign him long term. REALLY commit. Bet the FARM on Johnny. Hand him a shot and a beer and stand back.


You can apply your "hurt" logic to any QB.

Be straight with me....you're a comedian by profession, right?


Maybe he thinks he is right and well youre not poke

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If we get the #1 pick trade it for a kings ransom and build around Johnny ... my last comment tonight, later ... thumbsup


That would be the smart thing to do.

Unfortunately, we are the Browns. We are not likely to do the smart thing.


No one is giving up a "king's ransom" for a top pick again. Washington ruined it for everyone.


And this is why it scares the hell out of me placing all of our hopes on Johnny. One hit and he could be done. If he DIDN'T have that escape-ability? If he had a bad knee? How good would Johnny be? His legs are all of him....


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If we get the #1 pick trade it for a kings ransom and build around Johnny ... my last comment tonight, later ... thumbsup


That would be the smart thing to do.

Unfortunately, we are the Browns. We are not likely to do the smart thing.


How about this? Commitment goes both ways. So if we commit to Johnny and he has just ONE dumbass twitter pick or other brian fart, we CUT him immediately. Fair enough? As long as he is the first player in the building, and the last one to leave? We are committed. The MINUTE he is NOT that guy, we aren't married anymore. I want to see if he is willing to do what it takes before I commit. So far he's shown he ISN'T. Time to show and prove.


but...but... he is so young.....


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Yes other QB's get hurt. NOT all QB's need their legs as much as Johnny does. Not every QB is as small as Johnny. Cam Newton is huge. Now if we had that guy I wouldn't mind him running around. Not like this is my call anyway. I'm sure you'll be happy and Johnny will be the man next year. Maybe it will work out. Odds are against it. But who knows? Peace


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If we get the #1 pick trade it for a kings ransom and build around Johnny ... my last comment tonight, later ... thumbsup


That would be the smart thing to do.

Unfortunately, we are the Browns. We are not likely to do the smart thing.


How about this? Commitment goes both ways. So if we commit to Johnny and he has just ONE dumbass twitter pick or other brian fart, we CUT him im[spoiler][/spoiler]mediately. Fair enough? As long as he is the first player in the building, and the last one to leave? We are committed. The MINUTE he is NOT that guy, we aren't married anymore. I want to see if he is willing to do what it takes before I commit. So far he's shown he ISN'T. Time to show and prove.


but...but... he is so young.....

I'm so tired of this crap. WTF has he done wrong this year other than disobey daddy?!? I honestly think you guys are trolls who never want us to win. The hatred for this kid is just mind boggling to me.


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If we get the #1 pick trade it for a kings ransom and build around Johnny ... my last comment tonight, later ... thumbsup


That would be the smart thing to do.

Unfortunately, we are the Browns. We are not likely to do the smart thing.


How about this? Commitment goes both ways. So if we commit to Johnny and he has just ONE dumbass twitter pick or other brian fart, we CUT him im[spoiler][/spoiler]mediately. Fair enough? As long as he is the first player in the building, and the last one to leave? We are committed. The MINUTE he is NOT that guy, we aren't married anymore. I want to see if he is willing to do what it takes before I commit. So far he's shown he ISN'T. Time to show and prove.


but...but... he is so young.....

I'm so tired of this crap. WTF has he done wrong this year other than disobey daddy?!? I honestly think you guys are trolls who never want us to win. The hatred for this kid is just mind boggling to me.


If you haven't seen Manziel glaring red flags that have hampered Manziel since college, then you have blinders on. He is not a person to be relied on.

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Columbus, I've said it before and I'll say it again...Browns fans love being losers.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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If we get the #1 pick trade it for a kings ransom and build around Johnny ... my last comment tonight, later ... thumbsup


That would be the smart thing to do.

Unfortunately, we are the Browns. We are not likely to do the smart thing.


How about this? Commitment goes both ways. So if we commit to Johnny and he has just ONE dumbass twitter pick or other brian fart, we CUT him im[spoiler][/spoiler]mediately. Fair enough? As long as he is the first player in the building, and the last one to leave? We are committed. The MINUTE he is NOT that guy, we aren't married anymore. I want to see if he is willing to do what it takes before I commit. So far he's shown he ISN'T. Time to show and prove.


but...but... he is so young.....

I'm so tired of this crap. WTF has he done wrong this year other than disobey daddy?!? I honestly think you guys are trolls who never want us to win. The hatred for this kid is just mind boggling to me.


Just to be clear. I was happy when we drafted Manziel and wanted him to start game one of this season.

Things have changed.

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Your dislike for Johnny is obvious, He drinks he lies, He doesn't come to the stadium from the Heavens riding his Golden Chariot on a cloud made by God...

I'm anxious to see bad boy Johnny and bad boy Josh next season... The alter Boys haven't gotten it done ..

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