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I want Smith or Jack if we don't draft a QB.

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so it appears we will be drafting #2 unless Weeden and the Texans can do us a favor and lose against Tennessee. Cmon Flipper!


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Well, actually the strength of schedule (SOC) changes with every win or loss by every team the Titans and Browns play/have played. Yesterday the Titans lost to NE, so their SOC increased relative to ours. Was it enough to make a difference? And what will the final SOC be?


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Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
The 12/9 Drafttek mock draft has the Browns taking Goff with the 2nd pick, and the Redskins taking Smith with the 14th. Following is the paragraph explaining the pick;

"Every great defense has, or had, a stud middle linebacker running the show. From Jack Lambert and Mike Singletary to Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacher to Patrick Willis and Luke Kuechly, the NFL has seen a few transcendent talents change the culture of a defense from the inside out. As any Redskin fan witnessed on Monday Night Football against the Cowboys, a linebacker like Sean Lee can single-handedly take over a game on defense. Jaylon Smith has a chance to be one of these talents. Smith can play with his hand in the dirt and rush the passer, he can diagnose the run as quickly as anyone on the field, and he can cover receivers and tight ends like a safety. NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah stated of the Notre Dame linebacker, 'The player he reminds me of is Patrick Willis just in terms of sheer explosiveness,' and I'm quite certain any Redskin fan would jump for joy at the prospect of inserting Patrick Willis 2.0 into the middle of a young and surging Redskin defense."


That describes, very well, why I think Smith should be the Browns 1st round target.


I'd be ok with Smith


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If he is that kind of player, I'd be MORE THAN Ok with taking him #1 Overall - provided that we don't see a QB that we just have to have.

Actually, even if we see a QB we like... I'd go for that MLB.


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I want the best player at any one of these need positions:

RB: Crowell is not the answer; Duke is wonderful in the passing game

WR: Gordon is a question mark; Hartline is a possession guy

DE: Need someone who can consistently pressure the QB

LB: Need a run stuffer

DB: Still need a safety that operate in the midde and another corner

There are too many holes to focus on only one position. Take the best TALENT on the board.


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Bosa should be the #1 pick. Jaylon is going to get exposed trying to stop Zeke in the bowl game.

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If he is that kind of player, I'd be MORE THAN Ok with taking him #1 Overall - provided that we don't see a QB that we just have to have.

Actually, even if we see a QB we like... I'd go for that MLB.


This.

If you can, trade out of #1, and get him later.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
Well, actually the strength of schedule (SOC) changes with every win or loss by every team the Titans and Browns play/have played. Yesterday the Titans lost to NE, so their SOC increased relative to ours. Was it enough to make a difference? And what will the final SOC be?


The Titans strength of schedule is much worse than ours because they play in the crappy AFC South. The combined record of their remaining opponents is 13-15. The combined record of our remaining opponents is 18-10. They got the #1 pick locked up if they lose the last two games and they will probably be starting Mettenberger.

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But it also changes with the teams already played. As their record changes, so does their influence on the SOC even though those games are in the past.


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I want the best player at any one of these need positions:

RB: Crowell is not the answer; Duke is wonderful in the passing game

WR: Gordon is a question mark; Hartline is a possession guy

DE: Need someone who can consistently pressure the QB

LB: Need a run stuffer

DB: Still need a safety that operate in the midde and another corner

There are too many holes to focus on only one position. Take the best TALENT on the board.

I agree with you that we need talent, we need difference makers, we could use one at almost any position... I agree with your list, but I'll put it in my order of preference...

1. DE: Need someone who can consistently pressure the QB
2. WR: Gordon is a question mark; Hartline is a possession guy
3. LB: Need a run stuffer
4. DB: Still need a safety that operate in the midde and another corner
5. RB: Crowell is not the answer; Duke is wonderful in the passing game


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Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
But it also changes with the teams already played. As their record changes, so does their influence on the SOC even though those games are in the past.


Right, but they already have a huge lead over us.

The Titans opponents currently have a .492 winning percentage. Our opponents have a winning percentage of .520. That is a huge gap to be made up in two weeks.

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But it also changes with the teams already played. As their record changes, so does their influence on the SOC even though those games are in the past.


Right, but they already have a huge lead over us.

The Titans opponents currently have a .492 winning percentage. Our opponents have a winning percentage of .520. That is a huge gap to be made up in two weeks.


Mariota is out for the final two games.

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But it also changes with the teams already played. As their record changes, so does their influence on the SOC even though those games are in the past.


Right, but they already have a huge lead over us.

The Titans opponents currently have a .492 winning percentage. Our opponents have a winning percentage of .520. That is a huge gap to be made up in two weeks.


Mariota is out for the final two games.


So you are saying they have a chance to win them then.


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But it also changes with the teams already played. As their record changes, so does their influence on the SOC even though those games are in the past.


Right, but they already have a huge lead over us.

The Titans opponents currently have a .492 winning percentage. Our opponents have a winning percentage of .520. That is a huge gap to be made up in two weeks.


Mariota is out for the final two games.


So you are saying they have a chance to win them then.


Funny.

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Today I looked at a number mocks. Most had us taking a quarterback; either Goff or Lynch.

So I spent some more time watching game tape. Highlights just don't show much other than TD's. Proof is in details.

This year I watched every game Cook played in and feel pretty confident in what I have seen from him. The big unanswered question for Cook is his character/personality.

In watching Goff I see a number of things I like very much. He has very quick feet and uses them to get into good throwing positions. He has a natural quick delivery. For the most part he is accurate. I believe he will fill out and get stronger. He displays good field vision and can go to second and third level targets.

Like most young guys(junior)he can believe to much in his arm which can lead to int's. Again a spread offense, all shotgun etc. He will need more time in the NFL to learn the game. You have to be able to look at him and see what he will look like in 2 or 3 years.

Lynch has played inferior competition and comes from a read/run option, spread offense. Again a 2 or 3 year project. Goff is a little ahead there.

Lynch has the great size and athleticism. He is a darn good runner. For such a tall guy he has a rather compact delivery. He will need some coaching on footwork. He makes all the throws. Displays good accuracy and touch. Most of his throws come off single reads with lots of short screens and throws to the flats.

Very interesting prospect. He has what the NFL likes in physical traits. The mental part of the game is going to take time. But when watching him you can not help yourself from thinking Whoa this guy may turn into something really good.

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Kinda interesting that 2 spread QBs are better than Andrew Luck right now. Cam came from a heavy run spread offense and he's leading an undefeated team to an MVP season.

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Today I looked at a number mocks. Most had us taking a quarterback; either Goff or Lynch.

So I spent some more time watching game tape. Highlights just don't show much other than TD's. Proof is in details.

This year I watched every game Cook played in and feel pretty confident in what I have seen from him. The big unanswered question for Cook is his character/personality.

In watching Goff I see a number of things I like very much. He has very quick feet and uses them to get into good throwing positions. He has a natural quick delivery. For the most part he is accurate. I believe he will fill out and get stronger. He displays good field vision and can go to second and third level targets.

Like most young guys(junior)he can believe to much in his arm which can lead to int's. Again a spread offense, all shotgun etc. He will need more time in the NFL to learn the game. You have to be able to look at him and see what he will look like in 2 or 3 years.

Lynch has played inferior competition and comes from a read/run option, spread offense. Again a 2 or 3 year project. Goff is a little ahead there.

Lynch has the great size and athleticism. He is a darn good runner. For such a tall guy he has a rather compact delivery. He will need some coaching on footwork. He makes all the throws. Displays good accuracy and touch. Most of his throws come off single reads with lots of short screens and throws to the flats.

Very interesting prospect. He has what the NFL likes in physical traits. The mental part of the game is going to take time. But when watching him you can not help yourself from thinking Whoa this guy may turn into something really good.
Like I said in the M,M,M thread, there are good arguments for all three. I watched about 5 Memphis games, 3 Cal games and 3 MSU games this year. I am most intrigued by Lynch, seeing him as Roethlisberger-esque when he matures.


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If we stick with Manziel:

1. Joey Bosa, DE, Ohio State
2. Desmond King, CB, Iowa
3. Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan
4. Sterling Shepard, WR, Oklahoma
5. Bucky Hodges, TE, Virginia Tech
6. Aaron Green, RB, TCU
7. Safety depth

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I like that draft. A guy the might fit your safety depth is Tanner McEvoy from Wisconsin. I like what I read about him but cannot find any cutups or highlights on him to get a good look myself. Without actually seeing him, he is an intriguing late round flyer/

He has played all over. A qb for a while, but terribly inaccurate. I think he also played some Wr then moved to safety this year. He ended up with 6 interceptions or so.

Looks like he may have gotten arrested for underage drinking and driving in 2012.


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Just a note:

This is for all those comments about the quarterbacks in this draft and how none of them are any good.

I don't know the exact number of colleges that play football but there are many. Nobody will convince me that in the entire junior and senior class of all the college football programs that not one is going to be a really good NFL quarterback. Not going to happen.

At least one or more of the these young quarterbacks are going to be good. If the Browns get to select the top quarterback in this draft it is up to them to find that quarterback.

You can talk all about the needs of the team and there are many. But all of the needs pale in comparison to finding a quarterback that can lead the Browns to a championship.

There is just not enough evidence that Manziel is that guy and this season will not produce an answer.

The Browns will have the opportunity to select the best quarterback in this draft. That chance does not come often even with all the failures of the Browns.

Taking another position? Tell me who in the draft?

Is there a slam dunk monster pass rusher?

Want to take an inside/or outside linebacker? A receiver, tackle, corner?

Let's accomplish one damn thing first like ending the search for a quarterback.

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We've seen draft classes not produce ANY decent QBs. It's not that hard to believe.

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I also like Jacoby Brissett of NC State.

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At this point in the season ( up coming draft ) I don't see any of the a fore mentioned QB's as atop 10 pick .. Will one or more go in the top 10 , probably ..

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So... Scooby is entering the draft.


If we can trade down in the top 10:

1td) WR Laquon Treadwell, Ole Miss
2) WR Josh Doctson, TCU fingers crossed.
2td) S Vonn Bell, Ohio State
3) ILB Scooby Wright, Arizona
4) OLB Yannick Nkagoue, Maryland
5) C Jack Allen, Michigan State
5c1) ILB Casanova McKinzy, Auburn
5c2) OLB Tyrone Holmes, Montana dominated NDSU's vaunted OL week 1. Led FCS with 18 sacks.
5c3) DB Trevon Stewart, Houston
6) RB DeAndre Washington, Texas Tech
7) QB Brandon Allen, Arkansas
7c) FB Kody Walker, Arkansas

Projected Depth:

Offense (25)
QB: Manziel, Davis, B. Allen would be happy to have McCown back but he got beat up so bad
RB: Crowell, Johnson, Washington Save drafting a RB high until next year with Fournette, Cook, McCaffery, and Harrington coming out
FB: Walker
TE: Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer
WR-X: Benjamin, Doctson
WR-Z: Treadwell, Hartline, Moore
WR-Y: Hawkins, Hall
LT: Thomas, Miller
LG: Bitonio, Pasztor
C: J. Allen/Erving, J. Allen/Erving
RG: Greco
RT: Schwartz

Defense (24)
NT: Shelton, Meder
3T: Hughes, Wynn
5T: D. Bryant, Cooper
LOLB: A. Bryant, Holmes
SILB: Dansby, McKinzy
WILB: Wright, Kirksey
ROLB: Orchard, Nkagoue
Nickel LB: Mingo
CB-O: Haden, T. Williams, Gilbert
CB-I: K. Williams, IEO
FS: Bell, Stewart
SS: Whitner, Campbell

Special Teams (4):
K: TBD
P: Lee
LS: Hughlett
RS: Mostert

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I don't know the exact number of colleges that play football but there are many. Nobody will convince me that in the entire junior and senior class of all the college football programs that not one is going to be a really good NFL quarterback. Not going to happen.


Who were the good qbs in the 2013 draft?

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So... Scooby is entering the draft.


3) ILB Scooby Wright, Arizona



A guy named Scooby... in the Dawg Pound.

Scooby Snacks at the concession stands??


Browns is the Browns

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I don't know the exact number of colleges that play football but there are many. Nobody will convince me that in the entire junior and senior class of all the college football programs that not one is going to be a really good NFL quarterback. Not going to happen.


Who were the good qbs in the 2013 draft?


People loooooooooooooove the exception.

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So... Scooby is entering the draft.


3) ILB Scooby Wright, Arizona



A guy named Scooby... in the Dawg Pound.

Scooby Snacks at the concession stands??


It's marketing brilliance, so of course Scheiner will draft him!


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I don't know the exact number of colleges that play football but there are many. Nobody will convince me that in the entire junior and senior class of all the college football programs that not one is going to be a really good NFL quarterback. Not going to happen.


Who were the good qbs in the 2013 draft?


People loooooooooooooove the exception.

2010? 2007? Looks like we're due for another one.

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So... Scooby is entering the draft.


3) ILB Scooby Wright, Arizona



A guy named Scooby... in the Dawg Pound.

Scooby Snacks at the concession stands??


And he's white. What are the chances of a guy named Scooby being white?


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Last year there was all kinds of negative media about Mariota and Winston.

Both have had excellent rookie seasons.

Just because nobody is gaga over a Peyton or Luck type guy that does mean not there is no gem in this draft.

Lynch, Goff and Cook will all most likely go in the first round. There are others that will go later and could very well develop over time not unlike Tony Romo did.

Carr and Bridgewater were later picks both look to be good young quarterbacks.

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So... Scooby is entering the draft.


3) ILB Scooby Wright, Arizona



A guy named Scooby... in the Dawg Pound.

Scooby Snacks at the concession stands??


And he's white. What are the chances of a guy named Scooby being white?



I'd say those odds are pretty high, actually.


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I think my opinion might be biased because there was a black guy at my high school nicknamed Scooby.

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Honestly I'd take him in the second if he's there. He was a beast last year. Hurt this year, but who cares lol

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bone, you ignored my question. You said that it couldn't happen, but I only had to go back a couple of years ago to find that it does indeed happen.

The Browns have a TON of very real needs. Gambling on guys who are going to be journeymen when we have this many needs is ignorant.

We had our chance two years ago. Bortles, Johnny, Teddy, Carr, and maybe even Jimmy G were legit prospects. We took JM. He may work out. He may not. All I know is that if Farmer had taken either TB or DC, we would not be having this conversation right now.

I do NOT like this year's qbs. Goff makes the dumbest decisions. He plays in the weak Pac 12, where defense is a dirty word and he still throws dumb-ass picks. Cook has accuracy problems. Throws too high too often and he just seems to be lacking leadership abilities. Lynch is intriguing, but he is a project.

I say we stick w/JM and improve the overall talent of the team. I really don't get how you guys can watch the games [then again, maybe you don't] and think that the QB has been the problem this year AND how you don't see that we are outclassed talent-wise in almost every freaking single game we play.

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The playcalling has been beyond obvious on both sides of the balls. That's why it's a coaching problem.

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bone, you ignored my question. You said that it couldn't happen, but I only had to go back a couple of years ago to find that it does indeed happen.

The Browns have a TON of very real needs. Gambling on guys who are going to be journeymen when we have this many needs is ignorant.

We had our chance two years ago. Bortles, Johnny, Teddy, Carr, and maybe even Jimmy G were legit prospects. We took JM. He may work out. He may not. All I know is that if Farmer had taken either TB or DC, we would not be having this conversation right now.

I do NOT like this year's qbs. Goff makes the dumbest decisions. He plays in the weak Pac 12, where defense is a dirty word and he still throws dumb-ass picks. Cook has accuracy problems. Throws too high too often and he just seems to be lacking leadership abilities. Lynch is intriguing, but he is a project.

I say we stick w/JM and improve the overall talent of the team. I really don't get how you guys can watch the games [then again, maybe you don't] and think that the QB has been the problem this year AND how you don't see that we are outclassed talent-wise in almost every freaking single game we play.


Vers,

I think in many cases or at least for some posters it's more a thought of, "we'll have the #1 or #2 overall pick, so we have to take the best QB." I get that because it seems like most years we're picking in that 8-12ish range and the "best" QBs have been taken. Unfortunately, that kind of thinking can lead to desparation. With a team that has this many holes, the only way I take a QB at 1 or 2 is if he is that projected franchise guy. I realize that there are no sure things, but QB is even more of a crap shoot, so I tend to agree with your stance on this one.

The bottom line for me is this - we have few, if any, playmakers on either side of the ball, and my focus starts right there. I see teams like Pittsburgh with so many offensive weapons and ask myself who the Browns have that scares any opposing defense. Barnidge? Johnson? On defense, I ask myself who is the one guy opposing offenses have to be aware of on every play. Anyone? Those two questions are it in a nutshell for me!


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Found a mid round Olb prospect that I kinda like. Jatavis Browns from Akron. Watched the cutup from the Pittsburgh game and liked what I saw. 5'11 222# fifth in the nation in sacks with 12. Seemed to be fairly stout at the point of attack, and at times looked explosive attacking the Qb.


Rockyhilldawg, I know you are a big fan of the MAC conference. Do you have any good insight?
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Cleve, I know you like Ngakoue from Maryland. So do I. I have seen him projected as a 4th round selection. I don't get it. I see him as a 2nd round talent. Can you explain why he is projected to go so late in the draft? He had 13.5 sacks vs a big ten schedule, has excellent size and plays fast.


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