DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Browns' Mack on opt-out clause: Winning is important

I don't understand the scathing regard that Mack is being held to .... he can say whatever he wants in public and he should. Of course he should - because agents rarely say "This is Mack's big pay day and he needs to squeeze the most money out of any team that's willing to ante up" ...... of course they are going to talk about going somewhere to make an impact/win/blahh blahh blahh.

That's how the game is played and if you think he needs to be honest - you're in total denial of how the BUSINESS works.

Mack has earned his pay day and I don't care if he goes to Jacksonville for mega bucks or Pittsburgh for less than we offer him .... he's earned the right to negotiate and sign where he wants.

Obviously he's proven during his less than one season in the NFL, while not playing Center at all, that he cant play Center ever..

Mack has been excellent for most of the season. I'm sorry, but I don't think you guys watch the OL.

No way is Schwartz better than Mack. I like Schwartz and I hope we keep him. He's a good player, but we give him all kinds of help and he makes dumb decisions on stunts, X's, Devil dogs, etc...

Mack is dominating right now. I mean.............dominating.

I REALLY hope Mack stays, he has played well. Erving...man I hope he turns is around. I wonder how bad losing our OL coach affected this team, they really seemed lost at times.

I think it hurt somewhat, but I actually think our OL has played well this year.

The pass protection, other than Erving, has been excellent. All three of our QBs hold the ball a long, long time.

I think Flip's run blocking schemes leave a bit to be desired.

I'm okay w/the OL provided Mack stays. In fact, they are the least of our problems.

Oh...........and again...........JMO

I agree with you. I am glad the OL allows our QB's to hold the ball that long, it allows alot to develope downfield. But they do seem to get overpowered at the point of attack in the run game, not sure why that is..scheme or just not physical guys.

If winning is important...then that is that. See ya Alex. Next man up.

Come on man, it will not be easy to replace Mack. The guy is a beast and it will not be easy to replace him, I would sure hate to have to spend a draft pick on a center.

Not trying to be mean, but did any of you guys read the original article?

There was one comment about winning is important and then there were several comments about why he would want to stay w/the Browns.

The editors chose to run w/the headline about Winning because the masses would find that more intriguing and once again..............they were right in their evaluation of the general public.

Vers u are the only ones that watches games or reads articles. We all just come on here and talk out our ass. Now u can feel real superior. lol

We're supposed to watch the games?

I've just been watching the commercials this entire time

Wasn't that done with the 19th overall pick this year ?

yes...and probably no.

Not only did we pick a backup center with a first round pick, we picked a backup center who is not even good with a first round pick.

That is so Browns.

I'm sure they will make it right and use the number one pick to get Cams back up..

WTF?

Why are we giving ANY credit to an article like this?

This will be my only post in this thread:


"Until there is some real news about Alex Mack, this blog post (and its subsequent thread at DawgTalkers never actually existed.


This is not real.
It never happened.

The article is from NFL.com and has direct quotes from Alex Mack. It is also assumed that Mack will at least opt out. It is definitely worth discussing.

How did you get that out of what I said???? Then, others pile on.

My point was that most of Mack's comments are about him wanting to stay here. There was ONE comment where he said "winning is important" and that became the headline and so-called proof that he is gone.

I don't know if he will stay or go, but I believe the author of the article took a lot of liberties w/his comments.

I don't think there is any question Mack will be gone.

Vers, You know me, and it was a joke. Put it up there because u referenced not watching the Ol and then not reading the article. I thought it was funny at the time lol as most of us are talking out our ass by monday even after watching the game.

Anyway, I think the OL coach situation really hurt us but it was a guy that Pet hired knowing his history with Alcohol. That may have also played a huge part into his discipline of Johnny which I dont think anyone considered. You see a friend going down the wrong path give him a chance it blows up, then u see a young kid going down the same road.

Anyway, I hope Mack decides to stay, I dont think he will get more money elsewhere but he could decide to go for winning and or location.

So you think we should just throw him in at center and if he sucks like he has this year then the season is over. We'll just lose an entire season because YOU think he's a center despite getting pushed all over the field at guard becuase he's a weakie.... Fine. We'll just hand him the center job and if he sucks that's alright. Going 2-14 next season will be FUN....

Didn't you say good-bye to everyone in the other thread?

Or do you just say good-bye when you leave a thread?

Be nice.

Oh...........and Mourg. My bad.

I think if he were playing one position for an entire year he would improve a lot more.

The oline could have been a lot better than just OK this year. Depth has been a huge issue. Mack will most likely be gone and we'll probably have less depth in 2016. But yeah it's the least of our worries which isn't very comforting moving forward.

Oh well the race to our SB is on! We're right where we need to be, again! Draft day here we come! We are pumped up!

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Good thing we drafted Cam Erving.

Who knows.....it may end up working out that way.

The sad thing is... the thing that'll pay him the money will be like Jacksonville or somewhere similar, where it won't be much better. Ah well, see ya Mack!

I cannot blame any player that has a chance to get out of this mess doing so.

Why would a player who has a say in the matter stick around when there is nothing but constant turmoil?

Like everybody didn't see this coming....

Let's see players experiencing winning outside of Cleveland: Sheard, Ward, Rubin, and Jackson. Good for them.

I just wish we could have a team that players come to because they want to experience winning.

Not much chance of that with Quick Fire Haslam in charge though.

Haslam did what he needed to do in this instance. Farmer is the worst GM we've ever had and Pettine let his team get beat in the 2nd half while committing tons of penalties all season long. Any GM would've fired Pettine and Farmer after this season. We probably should've kept Joe Banner around in the 1st place because he was the mastermind that put us in a position to have multiple picks including 2 1st rounders and be way under the cap. Should've never brought Farmer or Pettine in in the 1st place. I'm glad they're gone, now maybe Haslam can figure out that this is a football franchise and not a Flying J and get somebody that knows how to run a football franchise.

Teams that lack talent tend to hang in games for a half or so ..... only to have talent win out.

The teams we beat this year were who ..... the Titans, Ravens, and Niners ..... 3 teams that have either poor talent, or injury depleted rosters. (like us) We also lost to the Ravens on a blocked FG .... which is the kind of loss that happens to a team lacking in talent.

How many penalties did we have today? Last week? The week before?

The team is lacking talent. Firing Pet was STUPID!!!!!

the penalties come from lack of good coaching. Firing pettine was fine. Farmer's drafts have been atrocious so I don't care about him being fired either.

But Sashi? C'mon man!!!

I don't blame Mack at all.