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I can't think of one right now, but there is one they keep trying to pass. If the federal 3 day waiting period is passed, then people that are in immediate danger would be denied a gun. That group could include witnesses, battered women on the run, or someone that does a cash business. A waiting period was enacted with the Brady Bill, but it was rescinded once the federal check system was in place.

I can cite all of them: Good guys obey the law. Bad guys don't. Bad guys love more gun laws because they don't adhere to them, and they know good guys do.

Wasn't it DC that had a law that any gun (maybe it was just for hand guns) had to be disassembled in order for it to be in your house? I'd bet the bad guys loved that law.

To me, his point is that a person who is already a criminal, and who has decided to use violence in the commission of a crime, (using a gun) is unlikely to be all that concerned about a gun law. Thus a gun law is never going to impact such a person much, if at all. However, the law abiding person will always be impacted by a gun control law.

Look at Chicago, with strong gun control laws .... and yet their rate of gun violence is through the roof. Why? Because people who have decided that violence is the answer, and/or who have decided to break major laws, are unlikely to be all that concerned about when someone tells them they can't have a gun.

Exactly!

But I thought I already said that.

By that logic, all drug laws harm more good people than evil people.

No because drug laws protect the good people by locking up the evil people who use the evil drugs.

Gun laws protect good people by keeping guns out of the hands of bad people. Look at Britain's gun homicide rate.

Yep.

And by 40's logic, he should be locked up since he smokes and drinks, which are drugs.

In Britain, the strongest evil people rule over the good people. The only equalizer is strength. However, fewer people die over there when robbed of everything they own or when raped by the strong evil people.

In America, the old crippled good guy and the tiny little good lady can blow a large hole in the strong, muscular evil guy. The gun is the equalizer.

Give me Murica.

Well, that's hilarious! We don't live in Britain, first of all, and secondly, it would appear that here, where we live, we can't keep the guns away from law breakers.

Hey, on a side note, just last night: My wife works nights, my daughter was at a friends house, so it was just me and my dog. At 5 a.m. he started barking like crazy - jumped off the bed and was at the bedroom door, growling. I jumped up immediately and yelled "who's here? I have a gun."

Then, I opened the bedroom door. Dummy (as I call our dog) tore off into the living room. He went to the door to the garage and growled and barked. I checked the rest of the main floor, then went to the door he was at - checked the garage.

Didn't find anything or see anything. Dummy wouldn't leave the living room though - he slept on the couch the rest of the night.

Knowing the sheriff's office response time to a 911 call (no fault of their own - 400+ sq. miles, only 2 deputies on duty) I was pretty darn glad I had a dog, a gun, and a phone.

Yeah, like I've said 1000x times on this forum before, I don't believe in gun control laws. I just wanted to point out how weak the logic is.

Glad you're safe, Arch. Gotta love Dummy

The problem is that the government can't/won't enforce the laws already in the books, and there's quite a backlog in updating background info. New laws will just add to the burden rather than make us safer. Most gun owners accept the current laws and regulations...they just need to be applied and enforced.

Moral of the story is one Dummy is better than Two Deputies?

The problem is that our Democrat run Government won't enforce the existing laws on fellow Democrats.

Gun control is a myth when I can go down to the local bar, talk to the biker, and have any gun I want in a short amount of time that will not be registered to me and when I toss it after a crime(after soaking in bleach and rubbing it down just in case something got through the gloves I was wearing)it will never lead back to me. Ever.

There is a good reason they don't enforce gun laws on the over 3 billion guns in this country alone. It's because they can't and won't until someone is CAUGHT in the act of breaking the law. An almost 50% unsolved murder crime rate should tell you how hard it is.

Good people should be able to arm themselves however they want because no matter what law you make the bad people will have whatever weapons they want. Gun laws are just asking good people to commit suicide IMHO.

Well 40 makes a piss poor point in his wording then. His point included Evil vs Good. So I wanted to know which gun laws are effecting "Good people more than Evil people?" But thanks.

Yep...Mainly because there isn't any.

No 40 believes it should be easier for a 15 yr old to get a gun so he can hold up a 7 eleven to buy a hit of heroin.

Isn't using a gun to hurt others in the commission of a crime an action that most people would consider to be an evil act?

*Fixed sentence*

This is why I used good and evil in my posts. It was in response to the way the conversation started, I was simply replying to this conversation.

People around here need to read and understand before they post.

I read it. You can't answer how a "proposed" law more often effects good people more than evil people can you? Because it can't. It's not a law yet, it's proposed, it isn't effecting anyone.


Yes ytown.. I know what you are saying I get it.. criminals that use guns and commit violent crimes are all of course very evil.

But even the most evil of mass killers haven't committed a single crime until.......well you know.

Most of you guys want these types of evil people to have their god given rights upheld for them to buy guns and for my god given rights to live in peace taken away. Just saying.

The flaw in your theory is that there are already over 3,000,000 million guns on our streets. So do you feel you live in a society of peace now? If not, how can someone take from you something that doesn't exist?

Nobody can take something from you that doesn't exist.