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To Mac..."You defended the rapist, Eric Wright."
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To Mac..."You defended the rapist, Eric Wright."
I'm not about to let you change the subject. Here is what the book says about people like you, vers...
What to call someone who falsely accuses you?
A person that falsely, without valid proof, accuses you of something, such as a statement or act you said or did. Either because of his lack of knowledge about the proof or because of intent.
Vers, here are some of the answers to the question above...
Slanderer - someone who deliberately tells lies that will damage your reputation
Libeller - slandering in print
Perjurer - slandering under oath, or other specific legal circumstances
Of course, liar covers all these and more.
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VERS, YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE!
I did not attack you..remember that. You made the decision to come after me..just show everyone the proof you have to back up your claim.
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The problem with the Browns since '99 is that we never utilize the patience to develop a young QB. Here, we have a young QB who is really finding himself making progress with each start. Why get rid of him now? I think there are a lot of problems w/the Browns, but I think it would be stupid to give-up on Manziel and draft a question-mark QB w/a top 2 pick. Manziel's game is better than any of those guys. I do worry about the off-the-field stuff w/Manziel. It's a gamble. He could fail. No doubt about that. However, drafting one of the chump qbs in this draft w/such a high pick is a bigger gamble. I couldn't agree with you more Vers. The main point I agree with you on is that: " Manziel's game is better than any of those guys." (referring to the rookie QB draft class) Manziel might not be an elite QB next year, but he's definitely trending in the right direction on the field and I can't see him regressing in his 3rd season. Who knows how good Manziel could be next year? Get Gordon back and in shape, get a beast RB and/or another lethal weapon in the passing game and we could be looking at a really great and exciting 2016 people! Let's think logically about this before we just 'liquidate' Johnny Manziel!
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So, you are admitting to defending Gordon for more severe infractions while persecuting Manziel for lesser violations.
That tells us all we need to know.
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why do you treat posters like this is an episode of law & order?
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vers...until you come up with the evidence to back up you calm, one at a time..the first claim I called you out on..this..
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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
To Mac..."You defended the rapist, Eric Wright."
If you cannot provide the proof, the book says this about you (orpeoplelike)..
What to call someone who falsely accuses you?
A person that falsely, without valid proof, accuses you of something, such as a statement or act you said or did. Either because of his lack of knowledge about the proof or because of intent.
Slanderer - someone who deliberately tells lies that will damage your reputation
Libeller - slandering in print
Perjurer - slandering under oath, or other specific legal circumstances
Of course, liar covers all these and more.
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So, you are admitting to defending Gordon for more severe infractions while persecuting Manziel for lesser violations.
That tells us all we need to know. The media has persecuted Manziel for 'lesser violations' than what the rest of the NFL players have done since he's been drafted. It's ridiculous. And instead of supporting our QB, we bite hook, line, and sinker and join the hater parade.
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...and one more thing vers...you came after me...I did not attack you.
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vers...until you come up with the evidence to back up you calm, one at a time..the first claim I called you out on..this..
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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
To Mac..."You defended the rapist, Eric Wright."
If you cannot provide the proof, the book says this about you (orpeoplelike)..
What to call someone who falsely accuses you?
A person that falsely, without valid proof, accuses you of something, such as a statement or act you said or did. Either because of his lack of knowledge about the proof or because of intent.
Slanderer - someone who deliberately tells lies that will damage your reputation
Libeller - slandering in print
Perjurer - slandering under oath, or other specific legal circumstances
Of course, liar covers all these and more.
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VERS, YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE!
Who are you Mac? Wordsworth? Or Merriam Webster reincarnated? Just tell us what the heck what point you are trying to make in English.
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Who are you Mac? Wordsworth? Or Merriam Webster reincarnated?
Just tell us what the heck what point you are trying to make in English.
You have no seat at this table..
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So, you are admitting to defending Gordon for more severe infractions while persecuting Manziel for lesser violations.
That tells us all we need to know. The media has persecuted Manziel for 'lesser violations' than what the rest of the NFL players have done since he's been drafted. It's ridiculous. And instead of supporting our QB, we bite hook, line, and sinker and join the hater parade. And let me add to that. It's completely fair to be upset or to even condemn someone for something that they were actually proven to do; but far too many times in Manziel's case we go all in on the conspiracy theories about his off the field stuff.
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Who are you Mac? Wordsworth? Or Merriam Webster reincarnated?
Just tell us what the heck what point you are trying to make in English.
You have no seat at this table..
Welcome to the board... I appreciate your welcome...and you're right, I have no seat at this table. I'm just curious to watch the debate and quite frankly, I'm confused as to the point you are trying to make. By the way, I've been on this board since the old DawgTalker's board before they had one on the official Clevelandbrowns.com website, then I moved back here when the official board was shut down. So I've been here for many years, just haven't been that active lately. Many of the other DawgTalker HOF'ers know.
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He's been exposed, so he is going to continue to belabor one point in an effort to build a facade regarding his hypocrisy regarding his views on past Brown's players vs his slanderous comments against Manziel.
Those of us who have been around long enough, understand that is how mac defends himself when caught red-handed.
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Manziel’s future with Browns up in the air January 1, 2016 By MIKE McLAIN - Tribune Chronicle link CLEVELAND - In less than a week the Browns will say goodbye to quarterback Johnny Manziel for a few months or maybe longer. You have to say maybe longer because of what has transpired to Manziel in his personal life of late. There have been some disturbing reminders of the way he operated outside of football prior to admitting himself into a rehabilitation center last January. Manziel remained in the facility for more than two months. It's never been disclosed what aspects of his life he was trying to improve, but he's never hid the fact that he enjoys partaking of alcohol. The escapades that have been associated with the partying have been a constant nuisance for coach Mike Pettine, who demoted Manziel to third string after a recent incident that Manziel tried to cover up. Pettine, who's been careful in his public comments about Manziel's off-the-field behavior, was more open during his Thursday press conference. "Here's a guy that has a NFL skill set," Pettine said. "He's very talented, (and) if you spend some time with him he's a likable guy; you root for him. But there are problems there that we'll talk as we're headed to the offseason about getting addressed. "I've said this before, we want to make sure that all of our players are in good shape as people first, players second, because I don't think you can be as effective as you can be as a player if things aren't right off the field. He's a good example of that." The latest Manziel incident is troubling because it follows the demotion that led to a start for Austin Davis earlier this season. Manziel was seen on social media drinking and singing lyrics from the song "March Madness." Davis will start Sunday's season finale against the Pittsburgh Steelers because of a concussion Manziel suffered last Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs. Pettine has seen the latest video. He said he wouldn't have suspended Manziel if he hadn't been hurt, but he does plan to talk to Manziel about his continual missteps. "I don't think we can really mandate it, but there can be strong suggestions as far as how he handles it," Pettine said. "But by the rules of the league, we can't (say), 'Hey, you need to come in here and meet with (quarterbacks coach) Kevin O'Connell three times a week.' It's against the rules. You can't do that. You've got to be able to send him off with a plan and check in every so often, and when the desire is there to want to get it changed and want to be better, hopefully you'll have a good result." Pettine's candor at this late stage of the season is interesting. It could be that he knows he won't be back next season and feels free to say what's on his mind, or he might know that he will return and wants to set the wheels in motion to get Manziel on the straight and narrow. While Pettine won't admit it, the issues he's had to deal with concerning Manziel must be unsettling and disruptive to the team cause. "I don't look at it that way," Pettine said. "It's one of the challenges of coaching. Every year that I've been in the league, there's drama on every football team. It varies in scope and the amount of it, but I don't see it that way. I see it as it's a challenge to us as coaches."
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Manziel’s future with Browns up in the air January 1, 2016 By MIKE McLAIN - Tribune Chronicle link CLEVELAND - In less than a week the Browns will say goodbye to quarterback Johnny Manziel for a few months or maybe longer. You have to say maybe longer because of what has transpired to Manziel in his personal life of late. There have been some disturbing reminders of the way he operated outside of football prior to admitting himself into a rehabilitation center last January. Manziel remained in the facility for more than two months. It's never been disclosed what aspects of his life he was trying to improve, but he's never hid the fact that he enjoys partaking of alcohol. The escapades that have been associated with the partying have been a constant nuisance for coach Mike Pettine, who demoted Manziel to third string after a recent incident that Manziel tried to cover up. Pettine, who's been careful in his public comments about Manziel's off-the-field behavior, was more open during his Thursday press conference. "Here's a guy that has a NFL skill set," Pettine said. "He's very talented, (and) if you spend some time with him he's a likable guy; you root for him. But there are problems there that we'll talk as we're headed to the offseason about getting addressed. "I've said this before, we want to make sure that all of our players are in good shape as people first, players second, because I don't think you can be as effective as you can be as a player if things aren't right off the field. He's a good example of that." The latest Manziel incident is troubling because it follows the demotion that led to a start for Austin Davis earlier this season. Manziel was seen on social media drinking and singing lyrics from the song "March Madness." Davis will start Sunday's season finale against the Pittsburgh Steelers because of a concussion Manziel suffered last Sunday against the Kansas City Chiefs. Pettine has seen the latest video. He said he wouldn't have suspended Manziel if he hadn't been hurt, but he does plan to talk to Manziel about his continual missteps. "I don't think we can really mandate it, but there can be strong suggestions as far as how he handles it," Pettine said. "But by the rules of the league, we can't (say), 'Hey, you need to come in here and meet with (quarterbacks coach) Kevin O'Connell three times a week.' It's against the rules. You can't do that. You've got to be able to send him off with a plan and check in every so often, and when the desire is there to want to get it changed and want to be better, hopefully you'll have a good result." Pettine's candor at this late stage of the season is interesting. It could be that he knows he won't be back next season and feels free to say what's on his mind, or he might know that he will return and wants to set the wheels in motion to get Manziel on the straight and narrow. While Pettine won't admit it, the issues he's had to deal with concerning Manziel must be unsettling and disruptive to the team cause. "I don't look at it that way," Pettine said. "It's one of the challenges of coaching. Every year that I've been in the league, there's drama on every football team. It varies in scope and the amount of it, but I don't see it that way. I see it as it's a challenge to us as coaches." The article saying that "the Browns will say goodbye to Manziel" is simply referring to the offseason. It's not insinuating that they have him on the trading block or are going to release him. The article just refers to the challenges that lie ahead for the Browns organization in managing Manziel and any potential future off the field problems.
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vers...exposed?...by whom or what?
By someone who accuses with absolutely no evidence..someone who attacks another board member in a "personal" way.
I was never involved in the Eric Wright situation...never. I never supported anyone, on either side of the discussion...never happened.
AND ALL I'M ASKING FOR FROM VERS...provide the proof to back up you claim on me.
...AND GUESS WHAT?...vers can't backup his claim, that I " defended the rapist, Eric Wright."
I don't believe I'm being unreasonable, asking for vers to backup his claim, directed at me.
Until he does, the book describes people like vers as..
Slanderer - someone who deliberately tells lies that will damage your reputation
Libeller - slandering in print
Perjurer - slandering under oath, or other specific legal circumstances
Of course, liar covers all these and more.
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Most don't challenge Vers' attacks..they just let him get away with it...I'M NOT LIKE MOST!
With no evidence to back up his claims directed at me, starting with Eric Wright situation, first...vers wants everyone to "trust him" or just to move on and forget his libeller claims.
...and appology for being "mistaken" would be a start!
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..and having an alcoholic beverage during the Holiday Season with friends is hardly behavior resembling anything of the like that was occurring prior and during last year's season. I would say many of us had an alcoholic beverage during the holidays and will today. And heck, maybe one of our friends or relatives might even be recording the festivities.
I stick to my word that the media scrutiny of Manziel's off the field behavior is biased when compared to the remainder of the players in the NFL.
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While Pettine won't admit it, the issues he's had to deal with concerning Manziel must be unsettling and disruptive to the team cause.
"I don't look at it that way," Pettine said. "It's one of the challenges of coaching. Every year that I've been in the league, there's drama on every football team. It varies in scope and the amount of it, but I don't see it that way. I see it as it's a challenge to us as coaches."
On every team, there are a variety of personalities a coach must deal with and when it comes to the QB position, not allowing the status of one individual to become an issue for "the team"...is a coaches best defense against the "oh is me, what do we do now" syndrome.
Since Johnny is "injured"...Pettine emphasises "next man up"...which IMO, is the best way to handle the situation, going into the last game of the season.
How this franchise chooses to deal with these personalities in the off season, will be interesting.
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He's been exposed, so he is going to continue to belabor one point in an effort to build a facade regarding his hypocrisy regarding his views on past Brown's players vs his slanderous comments against Manziel.
Those of us who have been around long enough, understand that is how mac defends himself when caught red-handed. Why can't you just sack up and say you were wrong about Mac's comments about Eric Wright? Why is this so difficult for you? Why do you always make things up about poster's opinion of things and then run away or change the subject? you've done this me, I know Damanshot went on a tirade after you made stuff up about his views, and now mac. Surely there are more. I said I was wrong about your views of Eric Wright's Dad.....grow a pair and do the same...or prove what Mac said. It's really that simple.
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Until he does, the book describes people like vers as..
Slanderer - someone who deliberately tells lies that will damage your reputation
Libeller - slandering in print
Perjurer - slandering under oath, or other specific legal circumstances
Of course, liar covers all these and more.
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While Pettine won't admit it, the issues he's had to deal with concerning Manziel must be unsettling and disruptive to the team cause.
"I don't look at it that way," Pettine said. "It's one of the challenges of coaching. Every year that I've been in the league, there's drama on every football team. It varies in scope and the amount of it, but I don't see it that way. I see it as it's a challenge to us as coaches."
On every team, there are a variety of personalities a coach must deal with and when it comes to the QB position, not allowing the status of one individual to become an issue for "the team"...is a coaches best defense against the "oh is me, what do we do now" syndrome.
Since Johnny is "injured"...Pettine emphasises "next man up"...which IMO, is the best way to handle the situation, going into the last game of the season.
How this franchise chooses to deal with these personalities in the off season, will be interesting. Yeah, I agree, Pettine is also growing as a coach and he's done well handling off the field issues with players considering his inexperience. You can't say the players have quit on him like the appeared to do on Shurmur and Crennel. Pettine has the right mindset of an AFC North coach, of a Cleveland Browns coach IMO, and I sure hope he is retained. I know that all of these comments are more appropriate for another thread but Farmer, on the other hand, MUST be replaced as first order of business post-Sunday.
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He's been exposed, so he is going to continue to belabor one point in an effort to build a facade regarding his hypocrisy regarding his views on past Brown's players vs his slanderous comments against Manziel.
Those of us who have been around long enough, understand that is how mac defends himself when caught red-handed. Why can't you just sack up and say you were wrong about Mac's comments about Eric Wright? Why is this so difficult for you? Why do you always make things up about poster's opinion of things and then run away or change the subject? you've done this me, I know Damanshot went on a tirade after you made stuff up about his views, and now mac. Surely there are more. I said I was wrong about your views of Eric Wright's Dad.....grow a pair and do the same...or prove it.
Truth of the matter is, I was never involved in the Eric Wright thing and didn't know enough about it to even jump into the conversation...I STAYED THE HELL OUT OF THE ERIC WRIGHT THING!
But hey, why some people can't nut up and admit they were wrong?
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Man, can we just get everyone to shake hands and drop this stuff.
It seems like half the posts on this thread are about guys no longer with the Browns.
Gordon was brought up, and I was one who was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt because of the reported circumstances surrounding his failed test. (that the 2 samples were so far off from one another) When Gordon went drinking on the infamous flight, I, and a lot of other people, thought that was just stupid, and wrong. He should have known better.
I do think that Manziel, talented or not, is wearing thin with the team. Strictly reading between the lines, it seems that we are being told that he prefers to take his "time off" completely off, all of his time off. It appears that maybe Manziel has not been 100% committed to being a great NFL QB, and that cannot be the case if he wants to succeed. Now, he deserves a lot of credit for the progress he has made this year, because he really has come a long way, but imagine if he completely devoted himself to becoming a great QB. I think that is Pettine's point, that he doesn't want to see Manziel waste his talent because he would not put his career as an NFL starting QB ahead of all of the "fun" in his life. I read a quote the other day, and I wish I could remember where ...... but it went something like this .... "I give football 95% of my life, and there still are times when I have to take away from the 5% my family gets."
Now that may be a bit much, and that's probably for a coach now that I think about it ..... but man, the great QB does everything he can to be great. Most great players have one thing in common.... that being that they outwork everyone else. This seems especially true at QB. Johnny has to get that mindset.
Again, this is all just supposition on my part, based on things said by Pettine and other things I have read.
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He had a bad game with accuracy but ran for over 100 and kept us in a game vs a very good team who plays very well at home and in a playoff race.
So you got an opinion of crappy and lurk for a bad game regarding accuracy without a large data base it makes so that you can make statements like - worst pct. of all our QBs...and stuff like a 13 year vet can get better and so can a 4 year vet...ehhhh not as much as a 23 year old with his 2nd season complete and on the verge to start an entire season as the #1.
Did Davis get better from start one to start 2? Nah worse. The progress that Manziel put up this year was excellent and usually young players coming into their own will continue to progress at high rates. Unless you would like to us to believe he peaked 
So a stat guy threw out some stats and you think that makes you correct in your opinion. You definitely seem to have some issues with his size...he doesn't he's been that size all his life. Yeah I get it he can get hurt...btw Concussion has nothing to do with his size.
I'll throw one stat at you...sinces we are comparing him with the other Brown QB...try winning pct. for his starts this season.
I know you can't wait for any and every regime we had here. Guess what they aren't going to hire you again for GM no matter how hard you try...lol 
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since we are comparing him with the other Brown QB...try winning pct. for his starts this season. Some of us said that about Hoyer last year. It didn't work then either. Guess what they aren't going to hire you again for GM no matter how hard you try...lol LMAO! 
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My 2 cents, stick with JM get him some weapons and hope he matures. If he continues to progress we finally may have our qb. Happy New Year everyone.
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I don't think it's in Manziel's makeup to be that kind of QB.
I think he believes he can do both. Study hard when needed and perform when needed and also have his party time. The thing is he may be right, but in this day and age if you're not dedicating your entire life to the sport, people think you're slacking.
I think that's kind of stupid, but that's the way it is.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I don't think it's in Manziel's makeup to be that kind of QB.
I think he believes he can do both. Study hard when needed and perform when needed and also have his party time. The thing is he may be right, but in this day and age if you're not dedicating your entire life to the sport, people think you're slacking.
I think that's kind of stupid, but that's the way it is. In today's NFL, other teams spend significant time pouring over tape of QBs, looking for weaknesses, and doing everything that can to stop them. If a QB, even a really talented one, is not doing the same, he will find it difficult to sustain success. Are there exceptions? Maybe. However, I believe that a QB who is not doing everything he can to be the best he can is cheating himself, his team, and his teammates.
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since we are comparing him with the other Brown QB...try winning pct. for his starts this season. Some of us said that about Hoyer last year. It didn't work then either. since 2013... hoyer 10 win 6 loss as a starter for browns... all other QBs are 4 win 28 loss...
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We have a winner. Not to mention he's going to lead the Texans to the playoffs this year while we get the pleasure of debating how many drinks Johnny is going to get busted for having this week and hoping he can figure out a way to complete more than 40% of his passes....that is when he can figure out a way to beat out Josh McCown to get on the field or not be injured. Everyone on the "zomg we need to give our QB more time to develop, some continuity and get him more weapons" are a year too late to the party. We could have done that last year. We are stupid and did not. Now all we can do is hope for Goff or Wentz (I've soured on Lynch the more I've watched him).
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Hoyer was benched and has started only eight games (he is 4-4 in those starts). That is hardly leading a team to the playoffs. His team is also in a horrible, horrible division. If anyone led the Texans to the playoffs it was this guy: 
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Well obviously Watt is the key to that team, and yes true the AFCS is terrible...but they're still winning games and going to the playoffs with Hoyer at the helm.
I'd trade places with them in a heartbeat.
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I'd trade places with them in a heartbeat. Same.
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weeden also won a game.
they had a revolving door at the QB spot. hoyer has been benched this season, and also lost the job due to injury.
i hardly call that leading.
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QBs not named Hoyer (Mallett, Yates, and Weeden) have won as many games as QBs named Hoyer for the Texans.
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weeden also won a game.
they had a revolving door at the QB spot. hoyer has been benched this season, and also lost the job due to injury.
i hardly call that leading. after watching the browns for a while i can understand how you wouldn't know what leadership is lmao
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
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weeden also won a game.
they had a revolving door at the QB spot. hoyer has been benched this season, and also lost the job due to injury.
i hardly call that leading. after watching the browns for a while i can understand how you wouldn't know what leadership is lmao Leadership is slamming your helmet on the ground after you lose. Duh.
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after watching pettine, i know you don't know what it is, either.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
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weeden also won a game.
they had a revolving door at the QB spot. hoyer has been benched this season, and also lost the job due to injury.
i hardly call that leading. after watching the browns for a while i can understand how you wouldn't know what leadership is lmao Leadership is slamming your helmet on the ground after you lose. Duh. oh.. ok.. i thought it was slamming ipad against your head lmao...
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
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weeden also won a game.
they had a revolving door at the QB spot. hoyer has been benched this season, and also lost the job due to injury.
i hardly call that leading. after watching the browns for a while i can understand how you wouldn't know what leadership is lmao Leadership is slamming your helmet on the ground after you lose. Duh. oh.. ok.. i thought it was slamming ipad against your head lmao... It was a Surface bro. Get it right.
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He's been exposed, so he is going to continue to belabor one point in an effort to build a facade regarding his hypocrisy regarding his views on past Brown's players vs his slanderous comments against Manziel.
Those of us who have been around long enough, understand that is how mac defends himself when caught red-handed. It happened. I am not apologizing for telling the truth. Posters can choose to believe whomever they want. The only guy backing you was already proven to tell a mistruth earlier on this thread. He has zero credibility. Run w/it, mac. Why can't you just sack up and say you were wrong about Mac's comments about Eric Wright? Why is this so difficult for you? Why do you always make things up about poster's opinion of things and then run away or change the subject? you've done this me, I know Damanshot went on a tirade after you made stuff up about his views, and now mac. Surely there are more. I said I was wrong about your views of Eric Wright's Dad.....grow a pair and do the same...or prove it.
Truth of the matter is, I was never involved in the Eric Wright thing and didn't know enough about it to even jump into the conversation...I STAYED THE HELL OUT OF THE ERIC WRIGHT THING!
But hey, why some people can't nut up and admit they were wrong? It happened. I am not apologizing for telling the truth. Posters can choose to believe whomever they want. The only guy backing you was already proven to tell a mistruth earlier on this thread.
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