DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Johnny Manziel discussion continued

If he's late or not at the game today, yeah I'd agree he's not showing he wants to be part of this team. But if they clean house, he's more than likely not going to be part of this team anyway.

I'm on board with Dave's post immediately above. And no, there is no pic so far, nor concrete evidence to firm up any opinion. There is however, a lot of "history" which may make the scenario plausible...

Of course you are.

Johnny has the money to fly to Vegas, have dinner and do a bit of gambling, and be back at work the next day. He wasn't reported to be doing anything improper. It would be the same as any of us spending an off night up at Dave and Busters...but on a Manziel scale.

Browns issue no comment on report of Johnny Manziel in Las Vegas

A Browns spokesman had no comment on a USA Today report that concussed quarterback Johnny Manziel was spotted Saturday night dining and gambling at Las Vegas’ Planet Hollywood casino.

Peter John-Baptiste, Browns vice president of communications, confirmed Manziel was not at FirstEnergy Stadium for the Browns’ final game against the Pittsburgh Steelers, but said he was not required to be in attendance.

Manziel was diagnosed with a concussion on Wednesday, after he complained of concussion symptoms three days after he ran for 108 yards in a loss in Kansas City last Sunday. Manziel entered league concussion protocol at that point.

USA Today reported Manziel’s presence at the casino was confirmed by a casino employee who checked his ID and a patron who witnessed the exchange.

This is the second time in Manziel’s two seasons that he was not even active observer at the Browns’ final game of the year.

In 2014, Manziel spent the Browns’ game in Baltimore banished to the visitor’s locker room after he missed a rehab session to treat a hamstring injury. Manziel traveled with the team to Baltimore, but was not allowed on the sideline during the game by the team.

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland//post/...el-in-las-vegas

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I grow so tired of this , dump him and move on, its like keeping your 6th best salesperson who is an ass

My thoughts.

Does anyone know if Johnny has a private plane?

Getting a flight out of Cleveland into Vegas and back during New Years I want to know his travel agent! Ok, so maybe he chartered a plane. Even still flight planing and organization must be top notch.

Even if he was there, it says he was EATING and gambling. The hate foir this guy is unbelieveable. He can't be on the field for this game, so what if he was in Vegas.

It didn't say he was drinking or drunk, for all you morality police.

The kids season is over, and if most have their way he will be traded, and we will draft another spread QB with less talent and bitch about him for the next year.

From MKC's Twitter acct:

Mary Kay Cabot; Verified account

@MaryKayCabot Johnny Manziel not at FirstEnergy for #Browns game. Didn't have to be here b/c concussion, spokesman told http://cleveland.com this a.m

You go Mary Kay, keep your agenda intact.

Does she report if Haden or any of the others with concussions are present? No.

Undertandable. But not to be even in the stadium for the last game? Did I read that article correctly?

J/C..

Is Moore..Williams..Winston and Hayden on the side lines ?

The other players with concussions, just curious..

Pete Rose said don't bet on it.

Small QB likes to run around getting hurt so he can't play today.... how did that happen? lol Johnny will get hurt a lot, Period. He's very small and he puts himself in the position to get creamed often. How many concussions does he have in him? Even if we keep Johnny we better draft a backup plan.

Farmer is done. Pettine is done. Manziel is done. Bowe is done. Sounds like a great start to the offseason to me.

looked at tmz there is nothing listed about him being in vegas.

must not be true

I don't think he went to Vegas, but if he did who cares? Really who cares?

He is out of the game and not mandated to even show up due to concussion. Season is over for him, coach is likely to be fired and he will most likely be traded. If I were him I'd do whatever I wanted just to thumb my nose one last time at Pettine.

He'd be at the game today if he cared as much as he says he does.

too noisy and bright for his concussion. needs to be in nice quiet casino...

Nate Ulrich Retweeted
Ryan Basford ‏@RyanBasford 35m35 minutes ago
Vegas last night with my boy, #johnnymanziel

Crop job of an old photo.

Yep where is the mustache he has been sporting for a while..guess he shave it off for the trip to Vegas

Just shows how much he respects Pettine.

My issues are:

1 - if he is indeed in vegas, if his concussion is so bad that he can't play then he shouldn't be capable to go to Vegas and have a good time. He would be miserable.

2 - if he wants to be a leader of this team then he should be at the game. I don't know about some outhouse players someone listed but I id see McCown there.

Manziel needs to go. Sorry! Simply put, he is a distraction we cannot afford. He is immature and unprepared for the NFL. Hope he goes with O'Neil, Farmer, Bowe and Pett.

Get Jerry Jones to come off a third and don't look back.

But he has a cold!!!!!

On Wknr 5 of Rizzo sources state he was in Vegas last nite

I don't know if Manziel was in Vegas last night. I do know that when the video got him benched was released, he lied and tried to say it was old.

Who cares if he went to Vegas? What is this? Where's Waldo?

You don't think it would be weird that a player, who has a concussion, is in Vegas the day before his team is going to play a game?

I just wouldn't think that a guy with a concussion would want to be flying anywhere.

Johnny Manziel Reportedly ID'd Gambling at Las Vegas Casino Before Week 17
By Timothy Rapp , Featured Columnist Jan 3, 2016

Cleveland Browns quarterback Johnny Manziel was reportedly seen eating and gambling at the Planet Hollywood casino in Las Vegas on Saturday night, according to Scott Boeck of USA Today.

According to Mary Kay Cabot of the Plain Dealer, Manziel was at the team's facility on Saturday morning before being spotted in Las Vegas later that evening. However, Cabot noted the Browns "do not know if [Manziel] was in Vegas on Saturday."

However, the quarterback posted a picture to Instagram on Saturday night, adding Avon, Ohio, as the location of the picture.




Following a Week 17 defeat to the Pittsburgh Steelers, head coach Mike Pettine, when asked by reporters if Manziel was in Las Vegas, responded: "I don't know, I wasn't."

Manziel, 23, started six games and appeared in nine contests for the Cleveland Browns this season, throwing for 1,500 yards, seven touchdowns and five interceptions. However, he was ruled out of Sunday's season finale due to a concussion.

Manziel, who entered rehab last offseason to combat a drinking problem, was already benched this season after video surfaced of the quarterback partying in a club during the team's bye week. Manziel then lied about the incident both publicly and to Pettine, leading to his temporary demotion.

"It wasn't coach Pettine's fault that I did what I did," Manziel said while publicly commenting that he hoped Pettine had a future with the organization, per Cabot. "It was just on my end taking responsibility and there's no grudges, there's no hate or anything like that. He's our head coach and our leader, and I definitely have a respect for him and that's not going to change—no matter what."

Despite Manziel's public defense of his coach, Cabot reported that the organization is set to make sweeping changes this offseason in a "likely blow-up of [the] Browns regime."

And Manziel's own future may be called into question after he was spotted at a Las Vegas casino this weekend and was seen drinking on Christmas Eve in another video.

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Nope, not if his season is over and he is not expected to be at the game.

Moore Hayden Winston and Williams all have concussions..I asked before and no one answered ..

Were they on the sidelines ?

That is fine. You don't see how others might see this as a problem? Especially for this player?

Pettine said that players are not allowed on the sidelines if they are in the concussion protocol, but can still go to the game.

I doubt he's here next year, so I don't even care.

Johnny obviously doesn't care. Get rid of him...to the highest bidder. If there are none, cut him. He is a loser.