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I remember Romo having a few bumps along the way, and a guy named Rapistberger - who did pretty stupid stuff.
Problem here is, with social media and 24/7 sports "journalism", if Johnny walks funny people will be saying they saw him partying. The NFL microscope is just ridiculous, and things get blown out of proportion.
Either Manziel is a 23 kid with lots of money and no one around to parent him, or he simply wants out of the mess that is the Cleveland Browns and knows that in Jerry Jones' world, his behaviour is colorful.
It comes down to this ... he's more talented than any QB the team has had in years, and the team can't afford to waste another 1st rounder on a QB. So hire someone to the coaching staff who has rapport with the kid and try to help him make better decisions.
Not once has his effort on the field ever been in question.
Then why wasn't he on the field yesterday? Oh right. He was HURT. A circumstance that will be repeated over and over again. Why? He's TINY and he LOVES to put himself in dangerous situations running around every play. So we should pass on trying to find a QB because Johnny may play part of a season? We should build an offense around him so he can run out of the pocket because he HIMSELF said he can't see much in the pocket all so Johnny can play part of a season. Two seasons and twice he's failed to play the final game due to injury. We're saved. *snicker*
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I don't want to trade Manziel. Punks like this deserve getting suspended for next season. I don't want him to be able to throw a temper tantrum to get himself off the team. If he doesn't want to be on the team, fine. He's no longer on the team, but we still have his rights. He's still ours.
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I don't want to trade Manziel. Punks like this deserve getting suspended for next season. I don't want him to be able to throw a temper tantrum to get himself off the team. If he doesn't want to be on the team, fine. He's no longer on the team, but we still have his rights. He's still ours.
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If Sashi is as smart as they say I'd like to him hornswoggle the Cowboys with JM. Works for me, I think........but.......what does hornswogle mean? :-) It means the Cowboys will fleece us and get the best end of the deal. 
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If Sashi is as smart as they say I'd like to him hornswoggle the Cowboys with JM. Works for me, I think........but.......what does hornswogle mean? :-) It means the Cowboys will fleece us and get the best end of the deal. can't remember the last time we got fleeced trading one of our players...
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I don't want to trade Manziel. Punks like this deserve getting suspended for next season. I don't want him to be able to throw a temper tantrum to get himself off the team. If he doesn't want to be on the team, fine. He's no longer on the team, but we still have his rights. He's still ours. That's ridiculous and bad business. Just trade him and be done with it. Throw in Gordon also. Be done with the both of them. The Brown's just don't know how to develop and handle young players.
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I don't want to trade Manziel. Punks like this deserve getting suspended for next season. I don't want him to be able to throw a temper tantrum to get himself off the team. If he doesn't want to be on the team, fine. He's no longer on the team, but we still have his rights. He's still ours. That's ridiculous and bad business. Just trade him and be done with it. Throw in Gordon also. Be done with the both of them. The Brown's just don't know how to develop and handle young players. First of all, there's precedent. More than a fair share of teams have sat on the rights of players. Second of all, Oh no, the Browns are bad at business. Whatever will we do?
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Report: Johnny Manziel showed up to practice drunk
By Chelena Goldman | Last updated 1/4/16
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It should be a given that when your job is on the line, the last thing you want to do is show up to work still drunk from the night before. Apparently nobody ever sat Johnny Manziel down and spelled that out for him — and the Cleveland Browns took the hit for it.
In the wake of Cleveland unloading personnel at the regular season's end, reports of Manziel showing up to practice "inebriated" have surfaced.
This also comes on the heels of Manziel being inactive for Sunday's game with a concussion after photos of the trouble-magnet quarterback partying in Las Vegas the night before became public.
What's worse is that it sounds as though Cleveland tried to keep these infractions in-house, and it didn't work. According to the New York Daily News:
The troubled quarterback showed up “disheveled and inebriated” at the Browns’ facility at some point last week, Tony Grossi reported during the Browns’ postgame show on ESPN Radio’s Cleveland affiliate Sunday. Grossi, who covered the Browns for years for the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, said on the show that he asked Mike Pettine if he could confirm what he had been hearing; that Manziel was “inebriated” at practice on Tuesday.
"He denied that that happened on Tuesday,” Grossi said. “But other people I’ve talked to said that it happened the next day, on Wednesday.”
Pettine, along with GM Ray Farmer, was fired by Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam after Sunday's 28-12 loss to the Steelers.
Sports Illustrated's Peter King reported that Manziel broke team rules by not reporting to the medical staff on Sunday morning prior to the game against Pittsburgh and that "the team couldn't find him for hours."
It's bad enough that the guy can't seem to stay away from the booze when he's away from the gridiron. It's a whole other bushel of trouble when that behavior comes to work with him.
King suggests that Manziel might be trying to "party his way out of Cleveland." With how big of a mess he is, it would be a wonder if any team would want to pick him up.
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My only question is, how does Grossi know? Didn't he pretty much burn all his bridges to the organization after the Lerner thing? Wasn't there a Haslam thing as well?
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My only question is, how does Grossi know? Didn't he pretty much burn all his bridges to the organization after the Lerner thing? Wasn't there a Haslam thing as well?
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Report: Johnny Manziel showed up to practice drunk
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It should be a given that when your job is on the line, the last thing you want to do is show up to work still drunk from the night before. Apparently nobody ever sat Johnny Manziel down and spelled that out for him — and the Cleveland Browns took the hit for it.
In the wake of Cleveland unloading personnel at the regular season's end, reports of Manziel showing up to practice "inebriated" have surfaced.
This also comes on the heels of Manziel being inactive for Sunday's game with a concussion after photos of the trouble-magnet quarterback partying in Las Vegas the night before became public.
What's worse is that it sounds as though Cleveland tried to keep these infractions in-house, and it didn't work. According to the New York Daily News:
The troubled quarterback showed up “disheveled and inebriated” at the Browns’ facility at some point last week, Tony Grossi reported during the Browns’ postgame show on ESPN Radio’s Cleveland affiliate Sunday. Grossi, who covered the Browns for years for the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, said on the show that he asked Mike Pettine if he could confirm what he had been hearing; that Manziel was “inebriated” at practice on Tuesday.
"He denied that that happened on Tuesday,” Grossi said. “But other people I’ve talked to said that it happened the next day, on Wednesday.”
Pettine, along with GM Ray Farmer, was fired by Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam after Sunday's 28-12 loss to the Steelers.
Sports Illustrated's Peter King reported that Manziel broke team rules by not reporting to the medical staff on Sunday morning prior to the game against Pittsburgh and that "the team couldn't find him for hours."
It's bad enough that the guy can't seem to stay away from the booze when he's away from the gridiron. It's a whole other bushel of trouble when that behavior comes to work with him.
King suggests that Manziel might be trying to "party his way out of Cleveland." With how big of a mess he is, it would be a wonder if any team would want to pick him up.
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My only question is, how does Grossi know? Didn't he pretty much burn all his bridges to the organization after the Lerner thing? Wasn't there a Haslam thing as well?
No. I'm just wondering if Grossi is considered a fairly credible source. With a transitioning leadership period, I want to know if I can count on his words about other things. I already made my JFF thoughts known and well. I do not like him. Again, this is just about if Grossi had any real "insiders" anymore
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Again, this is just about if Grossi had any real "insiders" anymore does anyone? really no one left... all fired and not replaced yet lol.....
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jc for all wondering about the sideline stuff: Receiver Andrew Hawkins said the only game he attended when he was in the concussion protocol was Sunday. For the others he watched at home because he said players with concussions are not permitted on the sideline and have to watch on TV in suite. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/145031...-addresses-team
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jc for all wondering about the sideline stuff: Receiver Andrew Hawkins said the only game he attended when he was in the concussion protocol was Sunday. For the others he watched at home because he said players with concussions are not permitted on the sideline and have to watch on TV in suite. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/145031...-addresses-team Makes sense. Did he mention anything about showing up on Sunday mornings, when he was in the protocol, and getting the treatments that are required, apparently?
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no.
hey i'm in agreement that manziel screwed up. he missed treatment, and none of the other players were dumb enough to be in vegas during game day.
i'm simply saying the sideline thing might be a little blown out of proportion.
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So...................why aren't you guys talking about Gilber, who REFUSED to go into the game?
He was picked 14 spots higher than Johnny? Why no hate there?
You guys are so full of crap!!!!
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i'm simply saying the <...> thing might be a little blown out of proportion.
taking the specifics out of it, look at that sentence. How many times in the past two years has it been applied to Manziel, and how frequently has the benefit-of-the-doubt proven to be unwarranted? People want to believe in the kid sooooo hard, but all he does is let people down. Yet people continue to line up to be let down time after time. Everyone is willing to look the other way at every last indiscretion simply because he might (and MIGHT still strongly applies) be capable of being the answer at QB for a franchise perpetually mired in crap. Flat out: the kid simply is not all that great, and he definitely isn't good enough to put up with all of the drama.
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Report: Johnny Manziel showed up to practice drunk
By Chelena Goldman | Last updated 1/4/16
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It should be a given that when your job is on the line, the last thing you want to do is show up to work still drunk from the night before. Apparently nobody ever sat Johnny Manziel down and spelled that out for him — and the Cleveland Browns took the hit for it.
In the wake of Cleveland unloading personnel at the regular season's end, reports of Manziel showing up to practice "inebriated" have surfaced.
This also comes on the heels of Manziel being inactive for Sunday's game with a concussion after photos of the trouble-magnet quarterback partying in Las Vegas the night before became public.
What's worse is that it sounds as though Cleveland tried to keep these infractions in-house, and it didn't work. According to the New York Daily News:
The troubled quarterback showed up “disheveled and inebriated” at the Browns’ facility at some point last week, Tony Grossi reported during the Browns’ postgame show on ESPN Radio’s Cleveland affiliate Sunday. Grossi, who covered the Browns for years for the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, said on the show that he asked Mike Pettine if he could confirm what he had been hearing; that Manziel was “inebriated” at practice on Tuesday.
"He denied that that happened on Tuesday,” Grossi said. “But other people I’ve talked to said that it happened the next day, on Wednesday.”
Pettine, along with GM Ray Farmer, was fired by Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam after Sunday's 28-12 loss to the Steelers.
Sports Illustrated's Peter King reported that Manziel broke team rules by not reporting to the medical staff on Sunday morning prior to the game against Pittsburgh and that "the team couldn't find him for hours."
It's bad enough that the guy can't seem to stay away from the booze when he's away from the gridiron. It's a whole other bushel of trouble when that behavior comes to work with him.
King suggests that Manziel might be trying to "party his way out of Cleveland." With how big of a mess he is, it would be a wonder if any team would want to pick him up.
I listened to Pettine's press conference and he was specifically asked if Manziel showed up drunk at the complex one day last week and Pettine said no. Pettine also said that he knew that Manziel was not supposed to be on the sideline and would not have traveled with the team, but said he would have to check to see if Johnny was required to be at the stadium at all. He didn't seem like he knew the answer. He said that he didn't know the NFL protocol for a concussed player and then whoever asked the question if according to the Brown's rules "did Manziel have to be at the stadium" and Pet said he would have to check. Sorta weird. He also said that (about 5:15 Pm yesterday) when the presser was that he did not see Manziel in the stadium and he didn't seem to know that Manziel was to be at the facility at 9 am for treatment. It was also the first that he heard reports that Johnny might had been in Vegas on Saturday. He didn't really answer the question at first if Manziel was allowed to travel on his own or if he had to be there. Pet did say after a couple iterations that it would be disheartening if Manziel did go off to Vegas.
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hey i'm in agreement that manziel screwed up. he missed treatment, and none of the other players were dumb enough to be in vegas during game day.
i'm simply saying the sideline thing might be a little blown out of proportion. And I certainly don't have a problem with him not being on the sideline because.........he couldn't be. I have a problem with him being in Vegas Sat. I have a problem with him skipping his mandatory treatment Sunday morning. Back up a week, and yeah, I question why his headache only appeared on Wednesday when there are also reports he showed up drunk on Wednesday and got sent home. Nothing corroborated, of course. But like I said yesterday, where there's smoke, there's fire. It's not like this is the first smoke with Manziel. Also, why would he go to vegas on Saturday when he knows he has to show up Sunday morning for treatment? Cleveland doesn't have restaurants, or a casino? Who knows whats up. I was pulling for him the last 3rd of the season or so. I thought he might be changing his tune. It doesn't appear he his. Too many smokes equals a guaranteed fire.
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you can just tell them that they are better than weeden, quinn, manziel, mccown, mccoy, wallance, delhome, dilfer, couch, holcomb, lewis,
umm....anderson, Dorsey....
who else am i missing. Detmer Couch Wynn Holcomb Garcia McCown, Luke Dilfer Frye Anderson Quinn Gradkowski DelHomme Wallace McCoy Cambell Weeden Hoyer Manziel Shaw Davis McCown, Josh I did that from memory. That makes me sad. Thad Lewis.
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Report: Johnny Manziel showed up to practice drunk
By Chelena Goldman | Last updated 1/4/16
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It should be a given that when your job is on the line, the last thing you want to do is show up to work still drunk from the night before. Apparently nobody ever sat Johnny Manziel down and spelled that out for him — and the Cleveland Browns took the hit for it.
In the wake of Cleveland unloading personnel at the regular season's end, reports of Manziel showing up to practice "inebriated" have surfaced.
This also comes on the heels of Manziel being inactive for Sunday's game with a concussion after photos of the trouble-magnet quarterback partying in Las Vegas the night before became public.
What's worse is that it sounds as though Cleveland tried to keep these infractions in-house, and it didn't work. According to the New York Daily News:
The troubled quarterback showed up “disheveled and inebriated” at the Browns’ facility at some point last week, Tony Grossi reported during the Browns’ postgame show on ESPN Radio’s Cleveland affiliate Sunday. Grossi, who covered the Browns for years for the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, said on the show that he asked Mike Pettine if he could confirm what he had been hearing; that Manziel was “inebriated” at practice on Tuesday.
"He denied that that happened on Tuesday,” Grossi said. “But other people I’ve talked to said that it happened the next day, on Wednesday.”
Pettine, along with GM Ray Farmer, was fired by Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam after Sunday's 28-12 loss to the Steelers.
Sports Illustrated's Peter King reported that Manziel broke team rules by not reporting to the medical staff on Sunday morning prior to the game against Pittsburgh and that "the team couldn't find him for hours."
It's bad enough that the guy can't seem to stay away from the booze when he's away from the gridiron. It's a whole other bushel of trouble when that behavior comes to work with him.
King suggests that Manziel might be trying to "party his way out of Cleveland." With how big of a mess he is, it would be a wonder if any team would want to pick him up.
I listened to Pettine's press conference and he was specifically asked if Manziel showed up drunk at the complex one day last week and Pettine said no. Pettine also said that he knew that Manziel was not supposed to be on the sideline and would not have traveled with the team, but said he would have to check to see if Johnny was required to be at the stadium at all. He didn't seem like he knew the answer. He said that he didn't know the NFL protocol for a concussed player and then whoever asked the question if according to the Brown's rules "did Manziel have to be at the stadium" and Pet said he would have to check. Sorta weird. He also said that (about 5:15 Pm yesterday) when the presser was that he did not see Manziel in the stadium and he didn't seem to know that Manziel was to be at the facility at 9 am for treatment. It was also the first that he heard reports that Johnny might had been in Vegas on Saturday. He didn't really answer the question at first if Manziel was allowed to travel on his own or if he had to be there. Pet did say after a couple iterations that it would be disheartening if Manziel did go off to Vegas. Grossi, who covered the Browns for years for the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, said on the show that he asked Mike Pettine if he could confirm what he had been hearing; that Manziel was “inebriated” at practice on Tuesday.
"He denied that that happened on Tuesday,” Grossi said. “But other people I’ve talked to said that it happened the next day, on Wednesday.”
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the sad part.... the total lack of trust that makes it even possible to be true....
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Report: Johnny Manziel showed up to practice drunk
By Chelena Goldman | Last updated 1/4/16
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It should be a given that when your job is on the line, the last thing you want to do is show up to work still drunk from the night before. Apparently nobody ever sat Johnny Manziel down and spelled that out for him — and the Cleveland Browns took the hit for it.
In the wake of Cleveland unloading personnel at the regular season's end, reports of Manziel showing up to practice "inebriated" have surfaced.
This also comes on the heels of Manziel being inactive for Sunday's game with a concussion after photos of the trouble-magnet quarterback partying in Las Vegas the night before became public.
What's worse is that it sounds as though Cleveland tried to keep these infractions in-house, and it didn't work. According to the New York Daily News:
The troubled quarterback showed up “disheveled and inebriated” at the Browns’ facility at some point last week, Tony Grossi reported during the Browns’ postgame show on ESPN Radio’s Cleveland affiliate Sunday. Grossi, who covered the Browns for years for the Cleveland Plain-Dealer, said on the show that he asked Mike Pettine if he could confirm what he had been hearing; that Manziel was “inebriated” at practice on Tuesday.
"He denied that that happened on Tuesday,” Grossi said. “But other people I’ve talked to said that it happened the next day, on Wednesday.”
Pettine, along with GM Ray Farmer, was fired by Cleveland owner Jimmy Haslam after Sunday's 28-12 loss to the Steelers.
Sports Illustrated's Peter King reported that Manziel broke team rules by not reporting to the medical staff on Sunday morning prior to the game against Pittsburgh and that "the team couldn't find him for hours."
It's bad enough that the guy can't seem to stay away from the booze when he's away from the gridiron. It's a whole other bushel of trouble when that behavior comes to work with him.
King suggests that Manziel might be trying to "party his way out of Cleveland." With how big of a mess he is, it would be a wonder if any team would want to pick him up.
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No offense to anyone, but Grossi is freaking blackballed in Berea. He has no sources. He would be the last person to ever break a story about anything Browns related. he burned his bridge and the only way he can make himself relevant is by writing a story about Manziel that has no legitimacy.
Does anyone think Johnny football could get past mary Kay Cabot while intoxicated when he cant fart without her writing about what he had for dinner the night before.
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No offense to anyone, but Grossi is freaking blackballed in Berea. He has no sources. He would be the last person to ever break a story about anything Browns related. he burned his bridge and the only way he can make himself relevant is by writing a story about Manziel that has no legitimacy.
Does anyone think Johnny football could get past mary Kay Cabot while intoxicated when he cant fart without her writing about what he had for dinner the night before.
Do you think she would cover this up for Manziel though, or no?
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no way. She cant stand the cocky little turd.
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tsh tsh..... thought you were one of his biggest fans?
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Could the drunk look been because of the concussion ? and someone who didn't know made a wrong assumption .
I really don't know.. I'm not defending this kind of behavior if that's the case..
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No offense to anyone, but Grossi is freaking blackballed in Berea. He has no sources. He would be the last person to ever break a story about anything Browns related. he burned his bridge and the only way he can make himself relevant is by writing a story about Manziel that has no legitimacy.
Does anyone think Johnny football could get past mary Kay Cabot while intoxicated when he cant fart without her writing about what he had for dinner the night before.
SOOOO True!!!! You definitely speak the truth, Mary Kay has had a wide on for JM forever & Grossi is definitely restricted in Berea. Excellent observation.
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I am one of his biggest fans and I recognize his talent on the field but I also recognize what he is when he isnt on the field and thats a drunken version of the peter pan from the Geiko commercial lol
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I keep reading that enough is enough, cut him, trade him, he is a punk, he is the Cocaine Cowboy, he is the devil reincarnated, etc.......
You are so morally sound. I have a hunch [well, more than a hunch] that if Gordon is reinstated, the very same people who have went off about Johnny's mistakes will welcome Gordon back w/open arms.
If this doesn't demonstrate they hypocritical nature of many of our posters, I don't know what does????? Gordon's past is WAY WORSE than Johnny's?
Johnny was not kicked out of two universities.
Johnny was not arrested for a DUI.
Johnny was not suspended twice by the NFL.
Johnny did not dog it on the field like Gordon did.
Johnny was not pulled over in a car w/marijuana in it.
So...........if y'all wanna run Johnny out of town, that is your right. And it will be my right to call you what you are when you get excited about Gordon coming back.
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Johnny is a distraction and he is a huge risk in the way he plays. His off field antics, his size, his style of play all point to one conclusion. He must go. Trade him if you can, if not cut him. You can't count on him to be there when you need him. You can't DEPEND on him to put the Browns and his teammates ahead of his own selfish needs. EVER.
Johnny has to go and meathead has to go right along with him. They can give Dilbert a ride out of town.
#BlackLivesMatter #StopAsianHate
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I supported Johnny. I didn't care if he drank. That's his business. But when it affects his job it becomes the teams/fans business and I dislike that. If he can't be bothered to do his job and parties instead, then screw him. And for the record I want Gilbert gone too. He flat out refuses to do his job.
Gordon may be salvagable. So I am wait and see on that.
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Meanwhile Sammy Watkins had a 1000 rec season and missed 3 games.
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I supported Johnny. I didn't care if he drank. That's his business. But when it affects his job it becomes the teams/fans business and I dislike that. If he can't be bothered to do his job and parties instead, then screw him. And for the record I want Gilbert gone too. He flat out refuses to do his job.
Gordon may be salvagable. So I am wait and see on that. If were banking on Gordon lord help us
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j/c:
I keep reading that enough is enough, cut him, trade him, he is a punk, he is the Cocaine Cowboy, he is the devil reincarnated, etc.......
You are so morally sound. I have a hunch [well, more than a hunch] that if Gordon is reinstated, the very same people who have went off about Johnny's mistakes will welcome Gordon back w/open arms.
If this doesn't demonstrate they hypocritical nature of many of our posters, I don't know what does????? Gordon's past is WAY WORSE than Johnny's?
Johnny was not kicked out of two universities.
Johnny was not arrested for a DUI.
Johnny was not suspended twice by the NFL.
Johnny did not dog it on the field like Gordon did.
Johnny was not pulled over in a car w/marijuana in it.
So...........if y'all wanna run Johnny out of town, that is your right. And it will be my right to call you what you are when you get excited about Gordon coming back. Vers, I think you're reaching for something that's just not there. Not one single fan is happy with any player that acts like a doofus and hurts the team. But people view infractions differently and have different levels of tolerance. I think what you are witnessing with Manziel is that everyone, even those with a high tolerance for the madness, have finally reached their tipping point. It happened with Gilbert before Manziel and it might still happen with Gordon. No one's being a hyprocrite. Everyone of those guys is deserving of criticism. People just differ on how severely they view the infractions and whether or not they are willing to give guys a chance to come around. Sometimes, people just reach the end of their rope.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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Wait.............so you are saying that getting kicked out two colleges, lying about the second dismissal, numerous failed drug tests in a couple of years in the NFL, a DUI, having pot in his car, saying that he took cough medicine, posting pictures of him w/a pipe and pill bottle, posting pics and vids of him partying in Miami while suspended, dogging it on the field last year, etc is NOT as bad as what Johnny has done?
Okie dokie.
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