DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Johnny Manziel discussion continued

Holy crap, he just said every one of them is deserving of criticism.

I agree with every single word. QBs are held to higher standards , it's just the way it is because it's the most important player on an NFL team, generally speaking.

I like the guy, I want him to succeed but he is his own worst enemy.
Don't go to Vegas (if he did), don't go to Texas on a bye week after you've been given the starting QB role, stop acting like a junior high kid and start acting like an NFL quarterback.

It's not very complicated.

At least he's able to produce in the NFL... and.. yaknow... wants to be in Cleveland.

[quote=Versatile Dog]Wait.............so you are saying that getting kicked out two colleges, lying about the second dismissal, numerous failed drug tests in a couple of years in the NFL, a DUI, having pot in his car, saying that he took cough medicine, posting pictures of him w/a pipe and pill bottle, posting pics and vids of him partying in Miami

your the only one saying this crap....

There is a long way between salvageable and "banking on."

salvageable = trade for anything...

You talk tough a lot, but I get the feeling you aren't tough at all.

didn't see that coming

gee... i will try to do better... wouldnt want you to be disappointed in me...

LOL..........you should have.

Come on, man. He is always saying calling JM a punk, the Cocaine Cowboy, etc. He just said that I was talking "crap." But, in the past, he has admitted his wife/girlfriend beats him up.

Just sayin'

I was just teasing you, play. Keep playing the part. It's fun to read.

And you're a keyboard warrior. you are like the nice guy that turns into an instant A-hole at the first drop of alcohol, only your alcohol is anyone disagreeing with your point of view.

So you get all snippy like a spiteful little chit and say something totally inappropriate... just like this

But seriously, I agree with you on most things, sadly. lol

well... you never met my wife..... stupid pukesburgh fan on top of it...

Thanks Old. I appreciate it.

If Gordon comes back and is again a non-professional turd that doesn't want to put in the work, he can go as well.

If Gordon comes back after paying for his sins, but is ready to work and is buttoned-up off the field and plays with passion on the field... then, yeah, he deserves to be welcomed back.

Neither of them have killed anyone, we're not talking death sentences here. BUT, if you're a pro player and can't be mature enough to conduct yourself like one, then why the heck should you be treated like one?

There is more to being a professional than what happens between 1-4 on Sundays. A LOT more.... and if you can't get that part right, you can't get the rest of it.

This is insane:



They had to post the story on Facebook because their website crashed.

https://www.facebook.com/ESPNLasVegas/?fref=nf

If this is real. . .

Somebody located Waldo. Lol

Oh boy. Part of me doesn't want this to be true at all. Another part of me hopes he's dressed up like a cheesy SNL character trying to party discreetly.

The fact that it could be true tells you all you need to know. Manziel is officially in the Tyson Zone.

I'm damn near in tears laughing at that story. I need a pic of him in that blonde wig.

In the meantime, we can speculate as to the look of the disguise....

Is that Mike Ditka?

Billy Ditka

Isn't that the old bouncer in roadhouse?

Christmas coming extra, extra early this year!


Will Burge
@WillBurge
I can confirm with 100% certainty that Manziel was in Vegas raging with a blonde wig on. This is no BS. The video will be out soon #Browns

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The absurdness of it all....

You can't make this stuff up...

Bye Bye party boy...

Hope that concussion does affect you too much..

this is freaking hysterical.... and pathetic, lol!

Prp - Will Burge was just on WTAM and said the video is a Snapchat video and Manziel is partying in a blonde wig. He's personally seen the screen shot of the video and several folks he knows in Vegas have said they have seen the video and there are multiple videos.

Also, the photo Manziel posted of he and his dog on the carpet supposedly at his home in Avon is actually him in his suite at the Aria hotel in Vegas.

Busted Coverage saying TMZ outbid them for the Billy Manziel video. Can't wait to see it. Too hilarious!

TMZ is trying to buy the video.

Can people stop trying to defend him? You're just trying to defend your own pride and ego of not being wrong at this point.

No wonder there are so many videos of JFF. You can sell one for a fortune. Maybe I am in the wrong career. I should be a jFF paparazzi.

lol....im so depressed about this team that all i can do is laugh. my boys are clowning me through text and FB and all i can do is sit here and take it.

I wish I could go back in time, steal Manziels phone before the draft, and switch Loggains number with Jerry Jones..

Methinks 99% of people who were defending him have bailed on that by now. Mostly we are here for the movies and popcorn.

Hi, I'm Johnny Manziel and I have Direct TV ...



... and I'm Billy Manziel, I have Cable.

Anyone else think he is just trying to get out of Cleveland?

This from ESPN, Las Vegas..

Johnny Manziel reportedly changed his outfit and went by a fake name in his recent trip to Las Vegas.

CLEVELAND-- The Johnny Manziel saga continues in Cleveland and its latest chapter may be the strangest yet.

After multiple reports surfaced that Manziel was in Las Vegas this weekend, there's a further report that seems to confirm his whereabouts.

According to ESPN Las Vegas, Manziel was indeed in Vegas this weekend, but wasn't looking like himself.
Rather, the Browns quarterback was seen sporting a blonde wig, a fake mustache and glasses, while referring to himself as "Billy."

In the article, sources indicate that Manziel was seen at a Vegas nightclub dining with friends and enjoying the evening, all the while wearing his wig.

Apparently, Manziel's identity was revealed when he asked for his bill at the end of the evening to be comped to his room.

Unfortunatlely for him, the club did not permit this to happen and Manziel used his credit card to pay, signing the name on the card.

Though multiple reports have indicated that Manziel was in Vegas, the report by ESPN Las Vegas was the first to detail Manziel as in disguise.

This report was later confirmed by Will Burge of WTAM 1100, who also reported that there is a video of Manziel partying while wearing the disguise.

That video is yet to be released, but according to Burge, it will be soon, as TMZ has already been in negotiations to obtain the footage.

Manziel posted a photo to his Instagram on Saturday night, after reports surfaced of his location, in which he and his dog were laying on a rug. The location of the photo on Instagram said Avon, Ohio, but the location feature on Instagram can be changed to essentially any place on the planet.

On Sunday night, after firing Cleveland GM Ray Farmer and HC Mike Pettine, Browns owner Jimmy Haslam confirmed that Manziel missed a mandatory appointment on Sunday morning at the team's facility in Berea, as part of his concussion protocol.

A report by Peter King of Sports Illustrated and Monday Morning Quarterback was the initial source for the news that Manziel missed the appointment and in that report, King also said the Browns were wanting to "move on" from the quarterback after this latest incident.

The quarterback was not in attendance for Sunday's game at FirstEnergy Stadium, but he was not required to by the Browns or the league's concussion protocol.

On Monday, wide receiver Andrew Hawkins, who himself was in the concussion protocol for a large portion of the season, said that players in the protocol can't be on the sidelines and watch the game from a booth. For that reason, Hawkins said Manziel's attendance at the game wasn't all that important.

Manziel was confirmed to be at the team's facility on Monday for season-ending meetings by defensive lineman Danny Shelton and Joel Bitonio, but neither seemed to have discussed the reports with him.

The Browns have the number two selection in the 2016 NFL Draft-- a fact that Jimmy Haslam pointed out when asked about the team's quarterback situation on Sunday night.
For all of your Browns news and updates from Berea, follow Hayden Grove on Twitter: @H_Grove.

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That story is hilarious. Goodness, it never ends.

Oh well........bye Johnny.

I will just say that if he goes, Gordon has to go, because Gordon's sins are FAR, FAR WORSE!!! I don't want to hear any hypocritical narrative about second chances. Gordon has received more chances than any player we have ever had.

I also am going to say this. Drafting another qb in a terrible qb class w/the second overall and then putting him behind an OL that will most likely be missing 2 or 3 of its parts and not getting true playmakers would be par for the course w/this franchise.

. The saga continues...but probably not for much longer. He is so toast (sorry, Memphis).