DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum How Johnny Manziel failed his last great audition

Ok let me see that link where these 3 guys are all saying the Browns should keep the town drunk.

If you are going to make stuff up, at least make it believable.

Have they spoken about Billy recently? I know Chip tried to recruit him many years ago. And the Aggies beat the Crimson Tide at a time when nobody beat Alabama, so I'm sure Nick Saban had some glowing things to say about him then. I doubt they've said anything about him recently and there's always the coachspeak factor to consider. Also I don't know what Belichick said about Billy but I do know what one of his scouts thought of him a couple years ago.

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Wow, as much as I dislike the guy I'd never seen this before...

A great post and solid read! This all-Manziel, all the-the-time stuff is lame. I don't think we have enough chances for him to wreck us another season. Will tell anybody what they want to hear and do what he wants, and seemingly wants what is bad for him, the Browns, and all those trying and willing to help.

Just tired of projects, this one in particular. Doubt we see a full season out of him due to injury, legal dustups, and whatever else is not on video yet. Not going to argue in his favor. Seems self-destructive whenever he does something decent. Just another week of JFF stories. Comes a point where you serve as an object lesson for wrong-headed behavior. This should not be the face of the Browns. Apparently came out too early IMO. Get what you can for him.

Yeah great idea, just so he can return to the life he clearly will not give up a handful of weeks later and become another season distraction for what is likely to be another rookie head coach.

And it isn't just these incident(s) Tab so you can chill on the sarcasm. It's the accumulative events, and there are lots of them, since having been drafted. This kid who has his own Billy Manziel shirt and etc has been dropped by two marketing companies.

What you say is all your opinion and if you wish to continue to hold his hand and have hope that something magical will happen and he will put his team/career first, then go on - that's your Cleveland-given right.

... for me, I've heard enough, had enough, know enough that it would just be better, and likely for both parties, to go our different ways. What team is even going to want to trade for this global headline making nightmare? Have you even thought about that outside the gossip about Dallas that started since draft day? Guess if Dallas picked up that wife beater, then they'd happily give us a 6th or 7th for Manziel?

I have zero faith in Manziel to straighten things out. That means you get rid of him.

I agree Mac, it is a sad story. You made a off the cuff remark about Haslam being out of his mind. That didn't bother me. That was just your opinion in the moment. I rag on you from time to time but in the end I know you are a passioned fan who wants the best for the team even if our opinions on some subjects are pretty far apart..as for as Johnny, that kid DOES have some sort of a problem. It may be as simple as addiction, it may be more. At any rate, I think he burned bridges with his team, thus his bridge in Cleveland.

It's a shame.

This confirms what I posted earlier.

His behavior doesn't have anything to do with getting out of Cleveland.

It's who he is.

I don't think he's going to straighten up anytime soon either. All he has to do is get off the sauce for good and things would change for him, but it certainly seems to me he likes drinking too much to quit right now.

I am not even going to bother reading this thread. Seriously............did we REALLY need yet another Manziel thread? I thought there was one running in the Tailgate forum?

Y'all love to pile on.

I wonder who that says more about..............you or him?

There was a new article released by ESPN with new information. New thread. Easy.

Apparently only cheerleaders are allowed to post about Johnny.

What? The previous thread had been locked. There were no current Manziel threads and it was during the season.

Come on, man.............you are smarter than that.

If the thread started "I love Johnny. He's our savior." You would have posted the first like.

If you didn't want see another post that you disagree with, you could have just skipped the thread and moved on.

You chose instead to bash the poster.

I wonder who that says more about..............you or him?

I didn't want to draft him because of these traits. Funny thing is that everybody and their mom knew Money Manziel was who he was off the field and the previous staff still decided to pull the trigger on him. Who is dumber Manziel for his antics or Haslam/Farmer for drafting him in hopes of changing him?

Manziel is what he is. At this point it's no loss keeping the guy. As much as I hate to say this, but, as long as Manziel produces and continues to improve on the field you have to let Johnny be himself. Otherwise, you accept the loss and cut the guy. I'd let this whole thing play out next season with JM as the starter and have a contingency plan in case he self destructs. We've seen worse with Josh Gordon and he is still a Brown.

Farmer wasn't dumb for drafting him. He was just following orders. Farmer has been dumb about draft picks, but this one isn't on him.

I really have no idea what you are talking about, other than you are trying to humiliate me.

Regarding the thread that I started..........it wasn't praising Johnny. I really didn't even make a comment. I simply reposted a thoughtful post that ddub had made.

But hey........if you feel the need to make me look bad, by all means-------------keep it up!

How do you KNOW that?

Too bad this FO didn't take the analytical approach then. We would have had Bridgewater.

I'm not really trying to humiliate you. It was pretty predictable that you would bash this thread. But if I make you aware that you are doing it, you might be less likely to bash the next one.

Haslam says homeless man convinced him to draft Manziel

Then, you don't know me very well.

I despise the mob mentality and bullying approach. People are piling on. Kicking a man while he is down. That's freaking lame and weak!

I couldn't stand Farmer. However, I am not gloating that he was fired. I made a couple of posts that I am glad he is gone, but I am NOT rubbing it in and calling him a moron over and over and over.

I think some people on here suffer from Small Penis Syndrome. It's like you will actually be big if you put another person down.

You hate the "mob mentality and bullying approach," but you would like more people to pile on Justin Gilbert and Josh Gordon because it isn't fair that Manziel is getting the brunt of the negativity.

Got it.

You don't have squat. But, nice try.

Kind of like you are doing where you bash all the guys upset with Johnny's nonsense and all the excuses for it.

The kid fit 10 years of grief in 2 year's time and guys are still trying to figure out a way where he starts next year.

This ^^^

You are the most predictable poster on here. Everyone knows what you are going to post before you post.

Possibly if we hire Chip Kelly as HC...

Will Jimmy Haslam still be the owner? Yes? Then Manziel will not be on the team.

These rich good ole boys hate nothing more than being made look like fools.

LOL............you might want to examine your string of 10,000 contrary one-liners.

What are you talking about?

I agree with that. I think there is very little likelihood of Manziel returning (and staying). If Chip were to be signed here, then the odds would be a hair more favorable...

This.

(Just to be clear, I am laughing at you. Not with you.)

Exactly.

Chip won't even get an interview.

The Browns are trying to stay away from all the drama that they can right now.

The sad thing is Chip would be a decent fit with what they want to do.

The sad thing is Chip would be a decent fit with what they want to do?