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Four of five teenagers accused of raping an 18-year-old woman at a Brooklyn, New York playground were in custody late Sunday, as authorities defending their handling of the case.

Police said two teenagers surrendered and two were apprehended. Charges were pending against a 14-year-old, 17-year-old and two 15-year-olds. A fifth suspect is still being sought.


Authorities said the woman was accosted just after 9 p.m. Thursday as she and her father walked inside Osborn Playground in the Brownsville section of Brooklyn. Police said one of the five suspects pointed a gun at the father and told him to leave. Each man raped the woman, police said. The father returned with two police officers, but the attackers fled.

The woman was treated at Kings County Hospital and released.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said in a statement released Sunday that he was "disgusted and deeply saddened by the horrific attack... Every New Yorker in every neighborhood deserves to feel safe and protected, and we will not stop until the perpetrators of this disturbing attack are held accountable for their actions."

Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams echoed the mayor's anger, but also questioned why police waited until Saturday night, 48 hours after the alleged crime, to alert the public by releasing surveillance video investigators said showed the men in a bodega before the alleged incident.

In response, NYPD spokesman Stephen Davis said the commanding officer of the precinct began contacting local community leaders about the alleged rape on Friday. The spokesman also insisted that there was no delay in the initial police response.

"A patrol car from the 73rd Precinct was approached on the street and told about the attack by the victim's father, who directed the officers to the scene," police spokesman Stephen Davis said.

"The police officers immediately responded and located the victim," Davis said. "The suspects had already fled." Rape

Wow! I know they say you can't say what you'd do in a situation unless you were put in the situation.. I am not a He-Man but I'm no weak Sister either... But I can make one guarantee, I would not have left my daughter and walked away looking for the police..i could not guarantee they wouldn't have raped my daughter but it would have been after I was dead.. I would have grabbed the gun kicked him in the balls and told my daughter to run.. I'm sure I would have died but I would have given my daughter a chance

From reports, the dudes that raped her were all teenagers, one as young as 14.

They need to be tried as adults and executed.

As far as the dad, look a lot of people don't know how they would act in that Situation, but personally, I've been in do or die situations, and I would've taken a bullet before just leaving my daughter there.

No argument here.. My opinions go way beyond that.. I'd try the parents of the kids right along with them.. Of course we don't hold parents to that level of responsibility in the justice system but if my son was a participant in this kind of senseless crime I would go on record on air and hold my parenting 100% responsible

People obviously don't understand these kids culture. Just like the muslims in Cologne, they are just following the ways of their culture.

Sorry to cross up stories, but the lack of law and order in the world and the attempt to justify behavior is killing me right now.

That's the way I see it. I could never look my daughter in the eye knowing they all had their turn with her.. Can you imagine the thoughts going through her head as dad turned around and left her there... Regardless of the fact he returned with police.. The poor girl was raped 5 times.. As I mentioned she might still have been raped but it would have been after I took my last breath.. Maybe after realizing they killed me they would have ran off leaving my daughter alone.. Small price to pay.. My life for my daughters well being

Whoa whoa whoa.

Culture? That's not a culture thing for Americans to rape people. You're completely out of line.

I agree w/you guys about the father, but I believe the rapists should be on trial, rather than the father.

Yea I mean the father was... I don't wanna saw coward but.... Didn't make the right decision in the heat of the moment.

But you're right he shouldn't be on trial.

I'm not saying the Father should be on trial.. Just making the statement, I do not understand how a father, gun in face or not, could walk away leaving his daughter behind.. There is no way I can picture this in my mind

Yeah, I know what you meant. You and Swish made it quite clear. I even agreed w/you.

However, the real villains are the five rapists and you haven't said a word about them and have put all your energy and focus onto the father.

A father and daughter should never be put into that situation. The perpetrators are scum bags and they violated the innocent.

What energy?

Me and Mox already agreed the rapist need to executed. There's nothing more to say about that.

I am not a fighter.. People don't look at me and see someone you don't wanna mess with.. I'm over 6 foot tall and laborer by trade.. Blue collar type of guy.. I avoid confrontation if possible.. But highly protective of my family.. I would die for 3 people in my life and would never hesitate..

it goes without saying.. Every one of them should pay, I'd castrate everyone of them.. I'd hold the parents of every single one of them responsible for failing to raise their child to know better.. I'm just saying, the first thought through my head was no way I'd leave my daughter to face this situation while I still was breathing.. I already said.. I'm highly protective of my family

Actually, I'm being very sarcastic. If you read up on the Cologne attacks, that is the excuse they were trying to give. I wonder how long before that actually happens here.

LOL.........amazing.

Looks like the parents of the kids who raped the girl turned their sons in.

The situation sucks, but atleast the parents aren't letting their scumbag kids get away with it.

That's interesting and that had to be devastating. Good for them in regards to doing the right thing in a no-win situation.

Please elaborate! Because I'd hold the parents responsible.. If you can't raise your children to know right from wrong then you should not have children.. Obviously for overcrowding reasons alone we are not going to hold the parents of kids such as this responsible for such disgusting crimes. But after awhile if a parent knew they were going to possibly be held responsible for their children's action.. I think you'd see a different type of parent.. Remember the mother who beat her young rioting son upside the head last year on national television... Now that's a parent right there, yet you had people saying she was a child abuser

good for them!! That would be hard. But the right thing to do

Mox, with regards to parenting.

How many times have we seen criminals who come from more or less perfect homes?

Sometimes the law of averages just makes it that some kids grow up to be scumbags, regardless of the parenting.

Which is why I dunno how I feel about the parents of the rapists.

I'm betting the gun used was owned by one of the parents.

Respect your opinion.. But you got to start somewhere.. I'm just speaking for myself.. If my child ever did anything, I'd blame myself.. That's me.. I hold myself at a different level then others might.. I haven't always been the perfect parent but my 2 children turned out pretty good.. I can say without a doubt now as they're both adults.. They know right from wrong

The sad part is that these criminals will probably only get 5-10 max. The one that pulled the gun might get 20. That would put them back on the street in their 30's.

Death would be too good for them.

castration would do it.. That would be a start..

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/us/new-york-park-gang-rape/

This shine a little different light on the subject.. Still not an excuse for the rape but appears the innocent are not so innocent.. Why would you set in a park and be having a drink with your 18 yr old daughter.. That's weird to say the least

I couldnt imagine...so many lives destroyed.

Oh man..... Well the dad is gonna go down for giving alcohol to someone underage.

Even still, why not just stay at home if you're gonna turn up with your daughter?

You're right, still no excuse for rape.

also, I'm not gonna take the side of the teenagers whatsoever......but one of them said it was consensual.

Did they find the weapon?

I'll get in line and say that I don't know how I would respond either but to those who say they would have taken the bullet...

I'm assuming the guy didn't know what exactly they were going to do with the daughter... but what is the better outcome, what is less traumatic... being raped by 4 guys as your father goes for help.. or watching your father get shot in the head (and then possibly being raped anyway)?

1. Being raped by 5 guys (not 4) while father goes for help. Living with this choice for the rest of my life, and that's just what I have to live with.. Just imagine the poor girl
2. Watching Father get shot in the head and then possibly being raped anyway.
3. Watching father get shot in the head and then taking off and getting away/ rapists getting scared running off.
4. Watching father disarm rapists and happy ending.


Option 3 and 4 is an option I'm willing to go with. Option 2 is an option that was worth taking. Option 1 is not a viable option

... Seriously!!

I may as well get shot by the bad guys. If I went home after abandoning my daughter to an uncertain fate, my wife would shoot me anyway.

I'd shoot myself but I get your point.. Could you imagine living with that?

Your forgetting option 5:

Father fights and gets shot, dies, then they kill the girl too to get rid of the witness.

No part of this is a great situation but a rape survived is better than two murders. Even though if I was the father I would wish I was dead after something like that. I don't think I could run though. I think even if they shot me I'd still take one or two out on the way.

The fact they were drunk makes things even worse.

What is wrong with some people?

Man, this is absolutely disgusting. Frankly, I don't think that anyone who commits a violent rape like this should ever be released to the public. Just lock them up, throw away the key, and super-glue the lock. The poor woman who was the victim of this horror will never be released from her sentence.

Never meant to imply that what was going to happen to her was going to be good.. but it could have been kidnapping, could have taken her and raped for weeks... could have killed her on the spot...

I know it's hard to imagine this because being raped by 5 guys is brutal, but it still could have been worse.

He's alive, she's alive, I can't begin to imagine what both are going through emotionally... but as bad as it is, they are still alive to try to work through it and try to get on with their lives... the alternative could have very easily ended up with one or both of them being dead and the other having even more guilt...

I agree with swish that this should warrant a very swift execution of the boys. This is something you never recover from. They will only become even harder and nastier criminal when they get out.

What would 1 older man do against 5 young men? Better to get away and try and get help ASAP. Would the daughter have felt better about being raped if her father way lying in a pool of his own blood while she was being gang raped? I doubt it. Would she have survived the attack if they had killed her father, and the police weren't on the way? Who knows? However, it is, at least, possible that she would not.

This idea that 1 average, middle aged man would somehow fend off 5 young men is, frankly, ridiculous. Maybe if the man had advanced training, where he could quickly incapacitate one or more of them, but for the ordinary man, that's just as likely to fail as not.

I don't understand why the Father didn't say "Ok, ok, I'll leave", take a few steps away until their attention turned to the girl and then draw his own gun and shoot the guy who had the gun?
Next he could ask the others "Who else wants some?"