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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/145056...eles-relocationST. LOUIS -- The St. Louis Rams, San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders filed applications for relocation to Los Angeles on Monday night.
As expected on the first day NFL rules would allow, the league confirmed that the paperwork was officially filed and received.
According to the NFL's statement on the filings, each proposal contained the "appropriate documentation in support of its application, as required by the NFL Policy and Procedures for Proposed Franchise Relocations" and is intended to be effective for the 2016 NFL season.
The Chargers revealed their intentions first and went so far as to have owner Dean Spanos appear in a video on the team's website to explain the decision for filing.
"It was very difficult to come to this decision," Spanos said. "It's been 14 years that we've been working very hard to try and get something done here. We've had nine different proposals that we've made, and all of them were basically rejected by the city.
"Over 25 percent of our business comes from Riverside County, Orange County and the Los Angeles County area. Another team or teams going in there would have a huge impact on that. I think that is what really was the catalyst that got this whole thing going because when the Rams decided to make their move there, this was a move to protect our business more than anything, so we find ourselves where we do right now."
The Rams and Raiders followed with their own confirmations:
"The St. Louis Rams informed the National Football League today that the Rams propose to relocate to the greater Los Angeles metropolitan area. The relocation would be effective for the 2016 NFL League Year."
"In accordance with the relocation policies, the Oakland Raiders submitted a relocation package to the NFL. The matter is now in the hands of the NFL's owners. An owners' meeting is scheduled to take place in Houston, Texas, on January 12 and 13, 2016."
Now that all three teams have officially declared their intents, it is up to the NFL's owners to decide which of the teams gets to follow through. It's a three-team, two-stadium race that could get some resolution as soon as the Jan. 12-13 owners meetings.
To that end, the 17 members of the league's finance, stadium and Los Angeles committees will gather in New York on Wednesday and Thursday. There, the committees will hear extended pitches for the Carson and Inglewood projects.
There's plenty to consider for not just those 17 owners but also the rest of the owners who will ultimately decide the fate of the three teams and four cities.
Rams owner Stan Kroenke has proposed a $1.86 billion stadium project in Inglewood, the project that essentially jump-started this whole affair. But Kroenke has received opposition from the city of St. Louis, which has put forth a $1.1 billion stadium proposal on the city's north riverfront. St. Louis' plan, which was finalized and submitted to the NFL on Dec. 29, includes $400 million in actionable public money.
The St. Louis stadium task forced sent out a statement of its own after the Rams formally filed for relocation Monday.
"We've anticipated this filing from the Rams for more than a year," the statement said. "It's why we started working in November 2014 to produce a viable St. Louis stadium proposal for consideration by the Rams and the National Football League. That proposal was delivered last week to the NFL and team owners, and we feel extremely confident that it will be well received as the league weighs its options in the weeks ahead."
Meanwhile in California, the Chargers and Raiders have forged an alliance to propose a $1.75 billion NFL stadium in Carson. The two teams currently play in the two oldest stadiums in the NFL and, after years without much progress toward new venues in their current markets, have set their sights on Carson.
San Diego and Oakland made submissions to the NFL before the Dec. 30 deadline, but neither plan is considered to be "actionable" by the NFL right now. San Diego's plan calls for a public vote later this year, and Oakland only sent a letter saying the city is discussing options but had no formal proposal.
It is believed that the NFL's six-member committee on Los Angeles Opportunities will make a formal recommendation to the rest of the ownership at or before the full meetings in Houston. The NFL requires 24 votes to approve a team's relocation proposal.
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I hope it is only the Rams. I think it will be the Chargers.
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As long as its not more than one team. That is just beyond ridiculous.
I dont think LA will support a bad team, let alone two..
Id be surprised if they supported a good team.. (aka, the Bengal effect)
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Los Angeles can't support an NFL team period. It's the fans. (or lack of fans) - LA just isn't a football town.
Did you know LA stole the Cleveland NFL franchise the year after they won the 1945 NFL championship?
Yep.
We used to be the Cleveland Rams. And the shyster owner moved the team to LA after the Rams won the 1945 NFL championship. The owner's name? Dan Reeves.
I'm glad. I prefer the name Browns.
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I recall Goodell mentioning that he wants two teams there.
Moving both the Raiders and the Rams there would be its own special bit of irony.
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Imagine how the fans of the one or two teams NOT selected are going to feel when the team has to come crawling back trying to sell tickets and talking about how much they love their fans...
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Bring the Raiders to Cleveland and send the Browns to LA..
The Cleveland Raiders..
The LA Browns..
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The Rams will be in LA, it's a 100% lock. And that's even knowing St. Louis has agreed to build them a new stadium. Kroenke is going to build the LA stadium with or without the NFL's approval. So he knows he's got the votes in the bag or he knows he'll eventually get the votes by the time the stadium is done.
I don't see how San Diego and Oakland are going to keep their teams either. They don't have stadium deals on the table and it's unlikely they have them soon.
I'd imagine the NFL is fine moving 2-3 teams to LA even if it means spurning three fanbases. They'll eventually add 2-4 expansion teams a few years from now to throw each city a franchise later on. Come on, we already know the NFL has a chubby to expand into London. That's coming too.
Having gone through this in '95, it sucks.
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I am so sick and tired of teams screwing the fans.
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I think it'll be the Rams and Chargers with Oakland moving to San Antonio.
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Imagine how the fans of the one or two teams NOT selected are going to feel when the team has to come crawling back trying to sell tickets and talking about how much they love their fans... Bingo! "Oh, we were never really serious about moving in the first place. Our fans are the greatest". Ya, right... 
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I can't see how the Rams leave St Louis. If a new stadium is built there, what is the rationale for the move? LA is certainly not going to build two stadiums, so the Carson location (with only the Chargers moving there) seems the most likely. on the other hand, what does Oakland do? Apparently their stadium is the worst in the league, and a team (49'ers) are also nearby, so they may be a candidate for a future relocation. This ought to get interesting. Want to chip in here, cfrs...
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I am so sick and tired of teams screwing the fans. You should stop following sports, then.
Browns is the Browns
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Imagine how the fans of the one or two teams NOT selected are going to feel when the team has to come crawling back trying to sell tickets and talking about how much they love their fans... LOL...........great point.
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It looks to me like the NFL wants a couple empty markets to leverage (extort) existing NFL cities into building their next generation of luxury palaces.
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I'm pretty sure whoever doesn't move is getting a new stadium from the relocation fees.
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I can't see how the Rams leave St Louis. If a new stadium is built there, what is the rationale for the move? LA is certainly not going to build two stadiums... Stan Kroenke, the Rams owner, is going to pay for the stadium in LA himself (with other investors too probably). From what I understand, no public money would be used for that stadium. Assuming that's true, if he wants to move his team to LA, I'm okay with it. Sure it sucks for the fans, but another team will move there for that stadium deal or a expansion franchise will be awarded to the city.
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I'm pretty sure whoever doesn't move is getting a new stadium from the relocation fees. I heard that it is $550 million per team.
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If those cities want a sports team so bad they should just build the stadiums and award expansion franchises to someone to build a team in those cities. Then the fans who get to keep their teams can build their teams new stadiums.
Wouldn't be any reason to move then.
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Ugh.
Expansion.
32 is the perfect number.
The league is too spread out as it is.
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no expansion IMO ... maybe a division realignment (or even get rid of divisions and just have two conferences
If they eventually expand to a 17 game regular season and there are 16 teams in each conference:
You'd play everyone in your conference once and then two teams from the other conference (based on record and/or a rotation)
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I don't like to see teams move. We've all felt that bite, but if a city wants it's team playing in a 50 year old stadium and won't look to upgrade, they deserve what they get. Face it, there are a lot of people who don't go to games because they can't sit in a suite or club section. I'd bet there are a lot of people in San Diego that fit that bill.
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If Oakland and San Diego move, be prepared for realignment. Nothing drastic though in terms of teams switching. Just switch one of them with Seattle.
Why? Denver and KC are going to flip out about 2 division rivals having an extra home game.
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... there are a lot of people who don't go to games because they can't sit in a suite or club section.
That must be almost intolerable with the weather they get in San Diego...
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... there are a lot of people who don't go to games because they can't sit in a suite or club section.
That must be almost intolerable with the weather they get in San Diego... It's not just the weather, it is the upgraded parking, better seats (both view and comfort), easier entrance/exit in and out of the stadium, better food and drinks, and many other perks. Some people just like to be seen in those seats. Sure the bad weather in Cle makes them more desirable in the winter, but the perks are more than weather related.
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St. Louis has put up the money to build a stadium in the city.
The Carson plan is an alliance between the Chargers and Raiders... which is nearly a 2 billion dollar stadium
Neither the Chargers or Raiders can afford to go back to their cities with their tails between their legs.
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... there are a lot of people who don't go to games because they can't sit in a suite or club section.
That must be almost intolerable with the weather they get in San Diego... It's not just the weather, it is the upgraded parking, better seats (both view and comfort), easier entrance/exit in and out of the stadium, better food and drinks, and many other perks. Some people just like to be seen in those seats. Sure the bad weather in Cle makes them more desirable in the winter, but the perks are more than weather related. Not only that, but the stadium itself is a dump. The seats in just about every area feel far-away from the field. Field level seats actually have a restricted view, because you can't see over the players on the benches.
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I've sat around in different areas of FEStadium..
Corners, 50 yard line, heck.. Upper deck, Row 32 even.
I've yet to have a bad seat.. or feel "far away" from the game..
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Imagine how the fans of the one or two teams NOT selected are going to feel when the team has to come crawling back trying to sell tickets and talking about how much they love their fans... I love you Baby, she didn't mean nothin' to me.
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Field level seats actually have a restricted view, because you can't see over the players on the benches. Billy is that you?
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Sounds like it's going to get done next week.
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It's crazy that by next week there might be 2 teams in LA.
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It's crazy that by next week there might be 2 teams in LA. or 3.
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It's crazy that by next week there might be 2 teams in LA. or 3. They could ALL get permission? Hasn't L.A. shown they can't support 1 nfl team? Let alone 2........and no way 3.
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It's crazy that by next week there might be 2 teams in LA. or 3. They could ALL get permission? Hasn't L.A. shown they can't support 1 nfl team? Let alone 2........and no way 3. There definitely won't be three. Oakland is going to get a sweet deal to stay. LA has shown that it will support sports teams. The Lakers, Clippers, Kings, Dodgers, and Angels all have excellent attendance. The population is here.
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It's crazy that by next week there might be 2 teams in LA. or 3. They could ALL get permission? Hasn't L.A. shown they can't support 1 nfl team? Let alone 2........and no way 3. There definitely won't be three. Oakland is going to get a sweet deal to stay. LA has shown that it will support sports teams. The Lakers, Clippers, Kings, Dodgers, and Angels all have excellent attendance. The population is here. Maybe if they get a new stadium and if the team is decent. It's not always about population, it's about interest. If they can create some of the "it's the place to be" thing that the Lakers have, they will fill it no problem. (Of course the Lakers were also really good for a long time)... I expect LA to get one, if they get two I'll be ticked, if they get 3 I might boycott the NFL forever.
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It's crazy that by next week there might be 2 teams in LA. or 3. They could ALL get permission? Hasn't L.A. shown they can't support 1 nfl team? Let alone 2........and no way 3. There definitely won't be three. Oakland is going to get a sweet deal to stay. LA has shown that it will support sports teams. The Lakers, Clippers, Kings, Dodgers, and Angels all have excellent attendance. The population is here. Maybe if they get a new stadium and if the team is decent. It's not always about population, it's about interest. If they can create some of the "it's the place to be" thing that the Lakers have, they will fill it no problem. (Of course the Lakers were also really good for a long time)... I expect LA to get one, if they get two I'll be ticked, if they get 3 I might boycott the NFL forever. All the local people are saying Chargers and Rams sharing a stadium. I don't know why the Chargers would do this. The Rams still have a huge fan base here. The Chargers would always be the "other" team.
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I don't think LA should get a team. They did not support the Rams very well. I can't believe that city is going to get two NFL teams.
It's a crime.
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I don't think LA should get a team. They did not support the Rams very well. I can't believe that city is going to get two NFL teams. Evidence?
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Empty seats in the Coliseum.
Were you even alive then?
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