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Sorry dude. No way in hell in just gonna run away. In a atleast attempt to take the gun from the guy first.

I rather die than let something like that happen to my girls while I run off.

And since they are teenagers, there's a pretty good chance if you take out one or two, the others will just run off.

Regardless, nah dude, you run, she's guaranteed to get raped. Atleast if you try, there's a chance you can defend her and the teens run off. And that's a chance I'll take every single time.

Why feed and clothe them for 60 years? They're animals. You put animals down.



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We are on the exact same page here!

who said he had a gun?

I read this story to my wife and the first thing she said was "He left his Daughter?" says it all.

He baited you into asking that question.

And as a guy who just got out of the military and works out regularly, you would have a chance to pull that off.. most guys would not.

And it is, by the way, exactly what my martial arts teacher taught us when I was younger. If you are facing overwhelming odds against you, pick out the biggest baddest one and take him down fast and hard... usually that is enough to scare the others off... usually being the important word.

It's hard to tell what these guys were doing. I'm not in the field, but don't most rapes (other than date rape) happen to unsuspecting victims in relatively secluded areas? I don't remember ever hearing about a case where a guy (or group of guys) actually made another person leave at gun point so they could rape somebody. It's just strange, did they not expect him to be going to get help? And how freaking long did it take him to get to the street and get help that they had time for FIVE guys to rape her?

Well then, look what happened because he didn't. I can't imagine walking in a park at night with a loved one and not watching out for their safety.

I'm betting the dad wasn't able to carry concealed because he had to obey the law in NY.....but let's not turn this into another gun control thread.

Or you could bet that maybe he didn't feel the need to carry around a gun in the first place.

Ya know, like the majority of Americans.

Speculation is fun!!!

and why not? The reason his daughter got raped as he ran away was he was unarmed without an equalizer. It IS a gun control issue!

It's not a gun control issue if he didn't want one in the first place.

Regardless, Were speculating, then trying to turn this into a gun control issue based off nothing. Cut it out.

This issue goes far beyond guns.

It goes far beyond guns because the bad guys broke the law and had one, just before they raped the unarmed Fathers Daughter 5 times!
Bad guys acted as I would expect.
Dad was dumb like those who say take a picture of me with my arm around the Buffalo's neck, just before their life changes forever.

Arm yourselves! There are wild animals in the parks! It is your Right!

I swear to god some of y'all get turned on with the talk of guns.

This is getting ridiculous.

In the park? Bring a gun.

Going on a date? Bring a gun.

Going to bed? Booby trap the house....with guns.

Just broke up with your girl? Buy a gun

Man, all y'all do is talk about guns and every solution has to involve guns.

Play games with it all you want since no one said anything about all those ridiculous things you listed.

Close your eyes to the world around you if you want, that is also your right.

Go Grizzly hunting with a stick if that is your thing, but what happened to that Father and Daughter would NEVER have happen if the Father or Daughter were armed.

I understand, but live another day to fight another fight has some merit.

really? they already had a gun pointed at him, so even if he had a gun, it would've been on his waste.

which means the moment he went to go reach for it, he would've already been popped.

so even in your dream scenario, there's still no happy ending.

but you can choose to live in fantasy island. that's also your right.

Ever try to find a cop when you need one?

According to at least 1 story I read, he went to a nearby store but they didn't do anything.

Who knows? More will come out.

My daughter is 15. I my self wouldn't have left her. Sure, I may have died. But, I highly doubt the 5 were out looking to murder. Again, who knows?

And as I say that, the dad had to act, quickly, without being prepared. Perhaps he thought the best option was to go get help? Who knows?

Weird. What is always said? Ban guns, and only the bad guys will have guns. Odd, isn't it?

The only person I ever heard say "I wish I would've had a gun" is the person that needed one, and didn't have one.

Probably correct in the fact that he had a gun in his face. They gave him the chance to leave - he did. They went on to do what they did.

Had he had a gun, he could've chosen to start walking away - but stop. Come back, and pop the guy that had the gun. Guarantee the others would've taken off.

I don't think - especially in this situation - that the bad guys wanted to kill. They used the gun as a source of power.

Serious question to you and all the others arguing on here:

Where should the focus be?

--Gun laws?

--The father leaving?

--Teens raping a young girl?

I think you're either confusing me with someone else or just being random.. I'm pro gun..

it should be mainly on the guys raping the girl.

then we can talk about the father and such, maybe parenting as well.

but i'm sorry bro, this gun control, guy with a gun stuff is getting really old. i've already said this goes far beyond gun control. that isn't anywhere near a root problem, at least in this particular case.

i tried.

I agree w/you about the gun control issue not belonging on this thread.

I guess my question was designed to bring this back to what is really important. A young girl was raped by a group of teenagers. They ran her dad off. How is that we are raising children to be so brutal? So uncaring? So dedicated to their own needs and desires while not giving a damn about other people?

I say it is a gun issue. If the Dad had a gun, this rape would never have happened.

Fact, many people raise animals today. Just check out the vids of inner city schools. Look at the fights in the neighborhoods and how people run around, out of control, knowing they can do whatever they want. The screaming, the howling, the hair pulling. Bats, knives, guns. Hundreds killed each year in their turf wars over drug sales and gang actions.

Look at the News as people follow the UPS trucks around town and steal delivered packages right off the decent persons porch.

Look at how they defy the Police every chance they get as if all society revolves around them, as if they are the law themselves.

Animals!

Decent people have a Right to protect themselves and a Duty to protect their loved ones. The gun is the equalizer.

So us inner city folk are animals?


Can somebody please explain to me why I should be proud to serve a country that constantly spits in my face?

Anybody?

Poor Swish, he picks out one part of an entire post and turns it to be about poor poor him. So ridiculous. Such a waste of time.

Hold on. Did I spit in your face? Did everyone? Or did just 1 person?

I see you missed the point.

Everybody cries about what they think I do as far as labeling and stereotyping.

Yet you constnstly get away with this horse crap, and nobody calls you out on it.


Yes, and I don't give a flying crap what anybody thinks at this point. When you're talking about the inner city people, you're talking about ME. I grew up in the inner city. Those people were my friends, they are the reason, along with y parents, why I grew up and did what I did to make it.

You're gonna base us being animals off of what? A few random world star videos?

So by your logic, is it fair for me to call all white people peodphiles, as you guys make up the majority of all child milestone and incest cases in America?

Should I call all white women animals, as they make up the majority of cases where they snap and kill their own kids?

Casey Anthony, anyone?

But you don't see me doing that, because even with my angry rants, I understand at the end of the day, if I say white people are animals, I. Calling my wife and kids animals.

So yes, I take personal offense to that, and screw you or anybody else who has a problem with that.

The only piece of crap animal around here is you.

Yea yea, it's all about you.

There are plenty of people who grew up in the inter cities around this Nation during my lifetime who did not become animals. My reference to those following UPS trucks to steal packages are mostly White animals if you watch the videos.

Make it what you want, make it race, whatever.

But every day, decent people go to work and raise their families and serve the community only to have it all destroyed by some human animal who hits them in the face with a brick while getting gas or shoots them in a holdup at the local 7-11 store. (all happened near me)

You will never get it if you don't face the fact that in our Society today their are those who contribute to that Society and those who feed off of it and off of the good people who help make it a Society.

you can try to spin it however you want. sure, the ups issue is them.

but we all know who you're referencing with regards to inner city.

i just don't like the fact that you took some worldstar videos, through the inner city tab on it and tried to call it a day.

so i'll make it about me, or the neighbor's dog, or putin if i want, the fact of the matter is you're wrong. period.

with regards to this issue and the side track crap going on.

this isn't an inner city problem, as for whatever reason 40 wants to place it on. plenty of rapes happen in the suburbs, frat houses, wherever there's a scumbag male trying to assert dominance over a women(read: literally anywhere).

so that's why i went off on you're stupid post. don't try to make this what it isn't.

this isn't a race problem.

this isn't a gun problem.

this isn't a "Where you was raised" problem.

this is male problem. we as MEN need to own up to this, as we are the dominate offenders when it comes to rape, sexual assault and harassment, no matter where in the world, from what religion, culture, nationality you choose.

Well this Man ain't no animal and most all Men I have ever known do not act like you claim they do but if you want to lump yourself in as one of those animals, have at it.

The Men I have known have added to our Society and made it more cohesive not taken away from it or destroyed it at every turn. Our Society has a cancer and real Men are not it.

I said we are the dominant offenders, I didn't say the majority of men do it, just the majority of cases, we are the offending party.

You're not making any points. You typing away but don't even understand what I'm saying.

I applaud the parents for that.

It's not where, it's how. If you were raised to see women at little more than a way to pleasure yourself, you won't respect them. If you're raised hearing women referred to as a (female dog slur), you won't respect them. If you were raised to believe their proper place is barefoot in the kitchen, you won't respect them. It doesn't matter where you were raised.

If that's my daughter no way I leave her while I go looking for cops. Someone would have to be charged with a murder.

I wouldn't even leave my Son there let alone Daughter.. I'm sorry to be blunt to any on here with different opinions but any man of any size or physical ability that would leave their child or wife in this situation... I don't know what say? I've mentioned before, can you imagine the thoughts going through the daughters mind as dad walked away.. Same applies for my Son, how could a Father walk away for even a minute and leave their child alone. I can't even picture this scenario

I can see it easily if the dad is not a fighter and has the brains to go get help instead of just being shot. For all you know he is some skinny runt that couldn't beat up a plastic bag.

Me I am 6'2, muscular, and mean as hell so I would fight and pretty easily beat them up I think even in my state of health I am in. Yet, I can understand how a wimpy, weak, and half drunk man could think its best to run for help.

Wow! I guess my question was answered.

I think the responses also answered why we will never solve the problems that plague us.