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If we bring in Jackson as our HC and he likes McCarron then yes, bring him in if the price is reasonable. He knows the system and it allows us to take the top rated player without needing to consider the Qb position bias.

What would be a reasonable price? A 3rd? perhaps a 3rd and a 5th? I don't know. I have never been good at this. A player I would give a 4th for gets traded for a 7th. one that I would give a 6th for gets traded for a 2nd and a 3rd.


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Originally Posted By: berea
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sooooo............what about the thought of him bringing in AJ McCarron?

no? yes?


His lingering pre-draft disaster interviews are still remembered, but it would be considered as these were mitigated while backing up Dalton.


I don't remember those. Can you briefly refresh our memories?


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Originally Posted By: Jester
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sooooo............what about the thought of him bringing in AJ McCarron?

no? yes?


His lingering pre-draft disaster interviews are still remembered, but it would be considered as these were mitigated while backing up Dalton.


I don't remember those. Can you briefly refresh our memories?


Some old national media links for a brief overview (though you should be able to dig for some local takes):

here

and here

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Originally Posted By: Swish
sooooo............what about the thought of him bringing in AJ McCarron?

no? yes?


First, I don't know why the Bengals would help out a division rival by giving them a QB. Which means if they trade him, then they probably don't think he is any good.

Second, I don't think McCarron is any good. He has only played a few games in the NFL, but he looks super shaky and not all that physically talented (he throws some lollipops).

Third, one of our greatest assets is the second pick in the draft. It would make sense that any coach we've interviewed would be questioned on the different QBs in the upcoming draft. If we hire Jackson, I think Goff is the pick.

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Does this coach help the Browns beat Pittsburgh?

Actually, does anything this team does in the next 24 weeks help them beat Pittsburgh?


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Originally Posted By: Jester
If we bring in Jackson as our HC and he likes McCarron then yes, bring him in if the price is reasonable. He knows the system and it allows us to take the top rated player without needing to consider the Qb position bias.

What would be a reasonable price? A 3rd? perhaps a 3rd and a 5th? I don't know. I have never been good at this. A player I would give a 4th for gets traded for a 7th. one that I would give a 6th for gets traded for a 2nd and a 3rd.


He won 2 of 3 to end the season and had the lead in the playoffs with 15 seconds left. His stock has never been as high as it is right now.

I don't see the Bengals letting him go for that to a rival. I'm sure asking price for us would be at least a 2nd, likely also including a conditional pick in the future.

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Thanks berea. I do remember that now. I think a lot had to do with the possible reality show. That never came to fruition did it?

Anyway, if there are any issues, Hue would know better than anyone.


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What do we need to trade for McCarron for? Yall dont even know if Jackson likes him.

Let him get his own QB, and start grooming him ASAP.


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That's what we are saying:

IF we hire Jackson
WOULD he want to bring McCarron in.
IF he does, then what would it take.

No one is suggestion we get McCarron without hiring Hue and then only if Hue wants us to.


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just a little joke... obviously damn little


It might actually have been a good one. It just went over my head. wink


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If Mary Kay Cabot is to be believed, then we haven't made up our minds yet. That is fine. Only one coach has been hired so far (Gase).

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Originally Posted By: Bard Dawg
Do we know of anybody coming with these candidates? Is that part of a big reveal in the interview process or a secret kept until after the hire? Not certain how it gets handled.


Are you speaking of family, like wife/kids etc? I've not heard that anyone's family came with on any interviews. Of course, I only know that Hud Jackson has had a second interview and if it was going to happen, I'd suspect that is when. Either then or when they bring whoever in for the offer, acceptance and presser.

Is that what you are asking?


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Two interviews and no hire, gives me the feeling they are a little apprehensive..

Best to be sure and make the right decision, My only concern if they have interests in one of the coaches in the playoffs..

Will we land him and will he be able to put together a good staff..It appears no ones going in a hurry, may work out.

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Two interviews and no hire, gives me the feeling they are a little apprehensive..



deis...that is what I was about to type. Kind of looks as if the search group would like to take time to consider their options at this point.

It may be that there is another candidate they would like to interview for a second time but that team might be tied up in the playoffs.


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Originally Posted By: mac
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Two interviews and no hire, gives me the feeling they are a little apprehensive..



deis...that is what I was about to type. Kind of looks as if the search group would like to take time to consider their options at this point.

It may be that there is another candidate they would like to interview for a second time but that team might be tied up in the playoffs.


Either that or Hue is not ready to commit to the Browns. Gase is gone, I would hate to see another good coach off the board. I hope the Browns don't wait too long and end up like last year, the last one standing without a chair when the music stops.

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This could go either way. Remember he is interviewing us as much as we are him.

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Two interviews and no hire, gives me the feeling they are a little apprehensive..



deis...that is what I was about to type. Kind of looks as if the search group would like to take time to consider their options at this point.

It may be that there is another candidate they would like to interview for a second time but that team might be tied up in the playoffs.


Either that or Hue is not ready to commit to the Browns. Gase is gone, I would hate to see another good coach off the board. I hope the Browns don't wait too long and end up like last year, the last one standing without a chair when the music stops.


How about this (I know you don't want to think about this because it doesn't make the browns look stupid or bad)

But what if the choice is Patricia (example) They interviewed him, aren't allowed to speak to him again until his team is done. Given that it's the Pats, that could be the night of the superbowl.

It's happened before.. Remember RAC. Won the superbowl as the DC of the Pats (irony) the next day is announced as the HC of the Browns.

But no, that's not a juicy enough story for you to spread is it.


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I heard that since we already interviewed Patricia and McDermott that we can do a 2nd interview with them on Championship Saturday.


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
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Two interviews and no hire, gives me the feeling they are a little apprehensive..



deis...that is what I was about to type. Kind of looks as if the search group would like to take time to consider their options at this point.

It may be that there is another candidate they would like to interview for a second time but that team might be tied up in the playoffs.


Either that or Hue is not ready to commit to the Browns. Gase is gone, I would hate to see another good coach off the board. I hope the Browns don't wait too long and end up like last year, the last one standing without a chair when the music stops.


How about this (I know you don't want to think about this because it doesn't make the browns look stupid or bad)

But what if the choice is Patricia (example) They interviewed him, aren't allowed to speak to him again until his team is done. Given that it's the Pats, that could be the night of the superbowl.

It's happened before.. Remember RAC. Won the superbowl as the DC of the Pats (irony) the next day is announced as the HC of the Browns.

But no, that's not a juicy enough story for you to spread is it.


Why are you bashing me? I just gave a pretty neutral opinion.

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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
I really wish the NFL would not allow coaching interviews to take place until after the Superbowl. I think the current way hurts both the coach and team.

As it is it is like starting a race before everybody is in the gate.
The system as is, is broken. It looks to me like the Browns are trying to choose between Jackson and Patricia. There are good arguments for each, and it would be best to be able to weigh the options in the same time frame. But we can't get a 2nd interview with Patricia until after the Conference championship games, and can't offer him the job until after his team is eliminated. As we all know, that might not be until after the Superbowl.

Meanwhile the clock is ticking on Jackson. If we don't move on Jackson now, the Giants will likely hire him. Which is fine if our first choice is Patricia and we manage to hire him when he becomes available. The nightmare scenario is if we hesitate and lose Jackson (assuming he would chose Cleveland over NYG) then Patricia declines our offer.

If, as peen suggests, the rules were changed so no teams can start interviews until after the Superbowl, this scenario would be eliminated. And I'm certain we aren't the only team so effected.


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If Mary Kay Cabot is to be believed, then we haven't made up our minds yet. That is fine. Only one coach has been hired so far (Gase).

https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/687105107012534272


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Two interviews and no hire, gives me the feeling they are a little apprehensive..



deis...that is what I was about to type. Kind of looks as if the search group would like to take time to consider their options at this point.

It may be that there is another candidate they would like to interview for a second time but that team might be tied up in the playoffs.


Either that or Hue is not ready to commit to the Browns. Gase is gone, I would hate to see another good coach off the board. I hope the Browns don't wait too long and end up like last year, the last one standing without a chair when the music stops.


How about this (I know you don't want to think about this because it doesn't make the browns look stupid or bad)

But what if the choice is Patricia (example) They interviewed him, aren't allowed to speak to him again until his team is done. Given that it's the Pats, that could be the night of the superbowl.

It's happened before.. Remember RAC. Won the superbowl as the DC of the Pats (irony) the next day is announced as the HC of the Browns.

But no, that's not a juicy enough story for you to spread is it.


Why are you bashing me? I just gave a pretty neutral opinion.


Whoops, my bad, not sure why, but I thought I was responding to MAC... Sorry man.. My bad


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If Jackson is our #1 target, I don't see how you can let him go to NY after having the second interview. Make him your coach or move on.

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I hope he walks. I hope Patricia walks. I am still hoping for some huge name to come in here and save the day. Replacing Pet w/one of these unproven guys is just more of the same.

One thing to consider {I am not saying this is true, but it's worth considering} is that given the fact that we have so many chefs in the kitchen, it might be really hard to come to a consensus on decisions such as this one.

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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
If Jackson is our #1 target, I don't see how you can let him go to NY after having the second interview. Make him your coach or move on.


Maybe we wants to go to New York to hear what they have to say?


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I hope he walks. I hope Patricia walks. I am still hoping for some huge name to come in here and save the day. Replacing Pet w/one of these unproven guys is just more of the same.

Like who?

One thing to consider {I am not saying this is true, but it's worth considering} is that given the fact that we have so many chefs in the kitchen, it might be really hard to come to a consensus on decisions such as this one.


I can't buy that just yet. I may at some point, but for the moment, all is it is a plan and plans could change if the guy they fall in love with doesn't like the scheme they've laid out to us.

Best to wait and see rather than worry about it now.

at least for us fans anyway.


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Looking like 2 of the 3 still in the running are guys i wanted so happy with that that one. Still hope we bring in Coughlin however. Hue and McDermit would be happy with either. Patricia is intriguing but I really dont want to go the Bellichek route again.

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If Jackson is our #1 target, I don't see how you can let him go to NY after having the second interview. Make him your coach or move on.


Maybe we wants to go to New York to hear what they have to say?


And he probably isn't going to jump at a Brown's offer. We've got to be at the bottom of his short list.

I really wish Mike Shanahan would consider the Brown's. But he won't. Can't really blame him but nobody else seems to be interested in him.


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Apprehension from the Front Office would be expected in my opinion.. Since 99, how many coaches have we had? Since Haslam took over, how many coaches have we had? We haven't had any of the front office guys really make a great hire.

I'm sure "the committee" is digging deep on this decision, and don't want to jump too quick.


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Browns now finalizing deal to hire Bengals OC Hue Jackson as their next HC, per sources. Close to being wrapped up, per sources.


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I believe it was reported that he stated he was going to honor his commitment to NY for an interview no matter what happened in his second interview with us.


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Alright. I wonder who he will bring in as Coords


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I believe it was reported that he stated he was going to honor his commitment to NY for an interview no matter what happened in his second interview with us.


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Can't even get excited about new coach being hired. Regardless who they were able to lock up.

Whom are we going to be hiring in 2018?

I hope I'm dead wrong, I really do. It would be fantastic to have a staff, a real staff from GM down, to provide years and years of stability. That's dream/fairy tale stuff in Cleveland though.

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Excellent. I'm on board with his crazy. We can hopefully tap into a good assistants pool, too. So much turnover around the league now that even we should land good assistants.

Are there any of his old players set to become free agents? That's supposed to be another selling point on him, too.


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Looks like Browns will get done deal with Hue Jackson before he gets on flight to New York for interview with the Giants, per sources.



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Schefty and Mary Kay and also Michael Silver reporting Hue is our new coach.

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With him being the guy hopefully it leads to an overhaul of offensive talent. We have constantly tried to "build" the defense first and it hasn't gotten us anywhere so lets go offensive and points some points on the board!!

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